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What Fiji have said to fire up Caelan Doris and Ireland

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Caelan Doris leads his side out before an Ireland captain's run on Friday at Aviva Stadium (Photo by Seb Daly/Sportsfile via Getty Images)

Ireland captain Caelan Doris believes that fighting talk from the Fiji camp has added an extra edge to Saturday’s Autumn Nations Series showdown in Dublin. The Pacific Islanders are eyeing an upset at the Aviva Stadium, with opposition scrum-half Frank Lomani twice using the word “vulnerable” to describe Andy Farrell’s men during his pre-match media briefing.

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Lomani also suggested the hosts, who slipped off the top of the world rankings following defeat by New Zealand a fortnight ago, are not the same team since the retirement of former skipper Johnny Sexton. Doris anticipates a bruising encounter, with the impact of Storm Bert potentially adding an extra dimension to the contest.

Asked if Lomani’s comments have injected more needle into the match, the Leinster number eight, said: “Yeah, I think so. I mean we definitely respect them, how they play. The two things you look at are their pace and their skillset, the way they throw the ball around, but also they are a very powerful team.

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“It’s going to be a very physical game. I remember the one a couple of years back (a 35-17 win for Ireland in 2022) for how physical it was. It’s going to be the same Saturday and looking forward to the challenge of that. They will probably be confident based off a couple of their results and how they have gone against Wales (a 24-19 win) and Spain (a 33-19 victory).”

Ireland responded to the 23-13 loss against the All Blacks by edging past Argentina 22-19, albeit poor discipline remained an issue. Head coach Farrell has made seven personnel changes to his starting XV, including handing Test debuts to hooker Gus McCarthy and flanker Cormac Izuchukwu and a first start to fly-half Sam Prendergast.

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Last 5 Games

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Wins
3
3
Streak
1
16
Tries Scored
17
32
Points Difference
-32
4/5
First Try
1/5
4/5
First Points
0/5
4/5
Race To 10 Points
0/5

Doris is confident Ireland’s performance will not be adversely affected by the raft of alterations and is hopeful of rectifying the penalty count. When we are training, we are not training the opposition necessarily, we are training to build the right habits,” explained the 26-year-old.

“So the whole group are working towards the same goal and regardless of who is in, you are expected to perform to a certain level. There is a lot of belief within our camp still. We feel we have the right people showing us the way and there is excitement about what we can do.

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“The discipline has obviously been talked about a lot and it has been an area that has been very good for us historically, so we’re looking forward to getting back on track there.”

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JW 1 hour ago
The All Blacks don't need overseas-based players

I'm not sure you realise how extreme it is, previously over half of SR players ended up overseas. These days just over half finish their career at home (some of those might carry on in lower leagues around the world).


1. Look at a player like Mo'unga who took time to become comfortable at his max level, thrust a player like that in well above his level, something Farrell is possibly doing now with Pendergrast, and you fail to maximise your player base as a whole. I don't think you realise the balance in NZ, without controlling who can leave there is indeed right now an immediate risk from any further pressure on the balance. We are not as flush as a country like South Africa I can't imagine (look at senior mens numbers).


2. Your idea excludes foreign fans, not the current status, their global 1.8mil base (find a recent article about it) will dwindle. Our clubs don't compete against each other, it's a central model were all players have a flat max 200k contribution. NZR decides who is worth keeping for the ABs in a very delicate balance of who to let go and who not. Might explain why our Wellington game wasn't a sellout.


3. Players aren't going to play for their country for nothing while other players are getting a million dollars. How much does SARU pay or reimburse their players?


4. I don't believe that at all. Everything so far has pointed to becoming an AB as the 'profile' winner. Comms love telling their fans some 'lucky' 1 cap guy is an "All Black" and the audience goes woooh!

The reality is much more likely to be more underwhelming

But the repercussions are end game, so why is it worth the risk?

Hardly be poaching uni or school boys.

This comment is so out of touch with rugby in NZ.

European comps aren't exactly known for poaching unproven talent ie SR or up not down to NPC.

So, so out of touch. Never heard of Jamison Gibson-Park, or Bundee Aki, or Chandler Cunningham-South, what about Uino Atonio? Numerous kiwi kids, like Warner Dearns, are playing in Japan having left after some stardom in school rugby here. Over a third of the NRL (so basically a third of the URC) are Kiwis who likely been scouted playing rugby at school. France have recently started in that path with Patrick Tuifua, and you hear loosely about good kids taking up offers to go overseas for basic things like school/uni (avg age 20+), similar to what attracts island kids to NZ.


But that's getting off track, it's too far in the future for you to conceptualize in this discussion. Where here because you think you know what it's like to need to select overseas based players, because of similarities like NZ and SA both having systems that funnel players into as few teams as possible in order to make them close to international quality, while also having a semi pro domestic league that produces an abundance of that talent, all the while facing similar financial predicaments. I'm not using extremes like some do, to scare monger away from making any changes. I am highlighting where the advantages don't cross over to the NZ game like the do for South Africa.


So while you are right in a lot of respects, some things that the can be taken for granted, is that if not more players leave, higher calibre players definitely will, and that is going to weaken the domestic competitions global reach, which will make it much hard to keep up or overtake the rest of the world. To put it simply, the domestic game is the future. International rugby is maxed out already, and the game here somehow needs to double it's revenue.


This is what you need to align your pitch with. Not being able to select players from overseas, because there are only ever one or two of those players. Sometimes even no one who'd be playing overseas and good enough for the ABs. You might be envisioning the effects of extremes, because it's hard to know just how things change slightly, but you know it's not going to be good.

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