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Ireland 'literally couldn’t string five phases of rugby together'

A dejected Ciaran Frawley of Ireland at the end of the Autumn Nations Series 2025 match between Ireland and New Zealand All Blacks at Aviva Stadium on November 08, 2024 in Dublin, Ireland. (Photo by Charles McQuillan/Getty Images)

Former Scotland head coach turned television pundit Matt Williams and Lions’ winger Shane Horgan did not hold back in their critique of Ireland’s tactics against New Zealand in the opening Autumn Nation Series game in Dublin on Friday night.

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Ireland’s 19-game winning streak at the Aviva Stadium ended with a 23-13 loss to New Zealand. The All Blacks capitalized on Ireland’s errors and indiscipline, securing the win through six Damian McKenzie penalties and a late try by Will Jordan, marking their first victory in Dublin since 2016.

Ireland’s refusal to play the conditions vexed both pundits.

Williams singled out both Ireland’s fly-half performances as he slammed the team’s tactical shortcomings on Virgin Media Sports. The former Leinter boss suggested that Ireland’s game management care of Jack Crowley – and Ciaran Frawley when he came on – was not up to standard.

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The 20-min red card explained by referee Karl Dickson

Referee Karl Dickson explains the 20-min red card system that is in place during the Autumn Nations Series.

“We’re sitting here going, it’s a wet night. Why haven’t we got a kicking game that’s banging the ball into the corners? Why are we not playing territory on a wet night?” he questioned.

Williams also pointed out that Ireland seemed to be playing as though they were in completely different conditions, remarking: “We’re still playing like we’re down on the Highveld in South Africa in July.”

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Williams singled out Ireland’s fly-halves, who in his view had missed the mark. “Both the 10s had poor games. They didn’t guide the Green Team around in any way,” he stated. “Compared to McKenzie, who kicked very well off the tee and ran well, and in the end set up a very good try… That was a poor game for both those Irish 10s.

“We didn’t kick judiciously in general play, and it was a wet night. They tried to play a highly structured, short-passing game in very difficult conditions,” Williams said.

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Ulster second-row Iain Henderson was also highlighted for his poor discipline.

“You had Ireland giving away some crazy penalties there late in the game that invited Damian McKenzie and New Zealand into your half with ridiculous penalties,” he said. “There was one there by Henderson, who I really respect, but that was a crazy penalty. He makes a tackle, he’s off his feet, and he won’t let the ball go. Three points, three points, three points, and all of a sudden you invite New Zealand back into a game and they don’t need a lot of inviting.”

According to fellow pundit Shane Horgan, Ireland’s inability to retain possession stymied any chance of an effective kicking strategy. “One of the issues they had was they failed to retain possession so many times they never even got in a position to kick the ball, that was an element of,” he commented. “They literally couldn’t string five phases of rugby together. It was quite remarkable. It was very error-prone.”

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“There was space on the field, and in fairness, they were close to breaking through on a number of occasions, but just the pass wasn’t right, or there was an overrun, or there was a slight delay.”

“I’m not saying it’s necessarily hubris because when they play like that, they often get rewards for it, but it wasn’t firing tonight, and they kept on going,” he said. “It’s almost in their minds they’re going, ‘Actually, it’s almost there. We can get it, we can get it.’”

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KM 22 days ago

Its a game of Rugby , played today, Next week the result could or would be totally different, The games were great to watch, mistakes aside , heads dropped , a couple of teams maybe read too many press releases and forgot to stick to the old school rules, Different ref , Different day , Different Result

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Rusty 23 days ago

James Lowe at 10 Ireland need to think outside the box

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BH 23 days ago

New Zealand were also infinitely better in the air from both their own kicks and Ireland's kicks

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Hellhound 23 days ago

They expected to win. They believed they were better and they can't lose. Is that so surprising that they lost? Underestimating any team, good or bad, and the chances are that you will lose. Winning is a habit. To continue winning, you have to take every game as serious as a WC final. Expecting to win, or claiming to be the best, doesn't make you the best not will it make you win. To compete against the best, you have to become a serial winner.


In saying that, the Irish are good. They will come back with a bang, but to be honest, the 6N besides France, the Irish don't really have competition. It's easy to fall into the trap where you think you are better than you really are.


I wasn't very impressed with this performance. They've put everything they had into the Bok series in SA that was drawn and what a great 2 tests those were. Despite losing to NZ in the quarters, they believed it was just a blip and some of the Irish fans claimed only the Ref gave NZ that victory. Now the AB's have won again, and this game by the AB's was just not very good. They should've scored at least 3 more tries with all those mistakes. Same with the Irish. This is a test that will quickly be forgotten.

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JWH 23 days ago

I think that England are pretty good. Just need to be a little more ballsy/confident, and I think that their setup could be a top 4 one. France have been a little undercooked lately, it will depend on how French they are feeling on the day.

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KiwiSteve 23 days ago

Ireland were just thinking about more important things like the open top bus ride when they win the World Cup.

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Bull Shark 23 days ago

Jeepers. One bad game.


I hope our Irish friends appreciate this doom and gloom treatment from the so-called pundits. Twonks like Williams. He should be fired.


Lambastes Ireland and then admits that there were essentially rusty. What a Poophol.

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Jmann 23 days ago

I believe they have lost 3 of their last 5 games?

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TT 23 days ago

Ireland just rusty (I hope?).


They'll be back (I hope?).


The more quality teams the better... in any sport.

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Utiku Old Boy 23 days ago

NH struggling to explain this result. Start with the ABs defense nullifying Ireland's attack efforts. Conditions were obviously slippery but first half stats (possession, territory, etc) showed which team was making all the plays.

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Head high tackle 22 days ago

Of the two tests NZ has played , both England and Ireland look to concentrate their attention to defence and dont bother with attack.

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OJohn 44 minutes ago
Will Joe Schmidt provide the Christmas gift Australian fans crave?

Schmidt has shown himself to be a very poor selector and tactician. He can coach the basics, which in reality is all he is doing and all the Wallabies needed to recover from Eddie Jones' Tah based sabotage, but that's about it. There is nothing exciting or impressive about it. He's basically bludging off some of the extraordinary talent Australia possesses. Even while he is denying some Australian players the opportunity they deserve.


Once upon a time, certain muses thought Cheika's and McKenzie's 50% win ratio was a disgrace and made them not fit to be a Wallaby coach ...........

Well here we are with Schmidt at 46% and which will be under 40% after the Lions tour.


Tupou will have seen the video of Schmidt calling him a f.... idiot after his pass after his fantastic break and he and the other players will now know who they are really dealing with. They will be swapping notes with Irish players who played under Schmidt.


Schmidt should stay in NZ and honour his word to his family to spend more time looking after his disdavantaged son. Real Australians don't want a kiwi coach for the Wallabies and we don't need one, no matter how many non Australians manically insist we must not have an Australian coach.


No doubt because they are s.... scared of what this Wallaby team could become with a fair dinkum passionate Australian coach. Excluding of course Cheika and Jones who were happy to sacrifice the Wallabies for some Tah pets. Kind of like Schmidt is compliantly doing with Jake Gordon and Ben Donaldson who wouldn't even be in the top 5 in their position in Australia.


It's a pity there are not more kiwis like Wayne Smith, who at least had the integrity to say he refused to coach against NZ.


And McReight is showing just what a complete joke Michael Hooper was, who was lauded by everybody round the world except by Australians, bar the Tahs of course.


We are bit sick of the con job other countries try to pull on Australia, to keep us down. Bring on a real Australian coach we can believe in and support.

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JW 1 hour ago
'Welsh regional rugby has failed conclusively and there is no way back'

Thanks for sharing the little juicy news you don't get on sites like this!


I think defenses are certainly better constructed to deal with it, but did you feel that it had tried to evolve with the new defense? Perhaps that's too difficult without the source of that IP, Lancaster, available? Case in point NZ succesfully nullifying it I thought at the time, but now I think looking back to your game v SA, and it's more direct and collision based approached, I wonder if you really were trying to play in that quarter final like you did against NZ in 21/22. Had the transition away already started?


IDK it might just be rose tinted glasses but without watching Ireland game by game they just now longer have the timing or speed (sorry if I'm repeating stuff that you're replying to I can't remember what I wrote) in how they move the ball sideways that I liked. I remember them moving the ball so fast to the other side of the field, that was flooded with loosies, that they could simply overwhelm with numbers and plays smart enough to pass to the one unmarked player.


I saw some nice prescribed 'plays' against SA that require a similar sort of execution but they were just different and less frequent imo. I still feel the level of play during that good run should be good enough to beat even defences that have worked it out. Look I was relieved that it wasn't coming out against us in France tbh, and I may just not be appreciating how we developed a D to fully snuffle it out, but even if that's the case I still think Ireland would be doing very well to accept that it's good enough to be just out of reach against sides like NZ. Certainly, and this is even before the NZ game last month and you having beaten SA, that what Farrell is producing is not going to be good enough to even be close to the NZ and SA.


You can't knock him for trying of course, it's just with a bit of regret here. Yes, I agree fully with that last paragraph, I'm not just talking this Autumn series mind you. What I ultimately thought the difference was, was just a lack of prep in the same areas they used to prep, and that might mostly be with the Leinster contingent, in that team. Thats not a idea bsed on a change of coach there, just decision by coachs that, yep, weve reach maximum precision with the team moving the ball, lets work on something else. Not that they obviously read this sort of thing but thats the main message ive been trying to implore on your team, that your success was down to this one facet (speaking with a perspective from a country who's whole success has been a DNA of continous link based team rugby) of play and you need to try and get back to it.

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AM 2 hours ago
Will Joe Schmidt provide the Christmas gift Australian fans crave?

It would be better for Schmidt to go. He is a good tactician but he lacks the strategic sense of someone like Rassie. The blueprint is there. Select from OS clubs, form good relationships with OS clubs to ensure players are available and start the season later in Australia to be more aligned with Europe.


The money and standard of coaching is much higher in France, the URC and the Prem so utilise them.


The business model question has been decided and SA has shown selecting OS wins.


Also by not selecting OS players Schmidt is going to grind to dust key guys like Bell. Cf Rassie using more than 50 players in his squad.


He has a tendency to select undersized players as well eg Amatesero who may well leave for France due to Schmidts poor selection like Meafou who is playing so well for France.


The scrum is the worst element yet Schmidt didn’t select Sio or Ainsley both playing well in England and France. He’s also not taken up development and gotten under utilised guys like Pone over to France to get better coaching. Hooker you have Latu and Uelese fit again. Backs you have Kerevi, Hodge, Perese and Kerr Barlow. Locks you have guys like Philip and Arnold.


Would all of these guys be first choice. No but you keep them in the squad for injuries and so that you don’t kill your first choice guys.


Get Jacques Nienaber or someone like that who understands strategic elements of the game better.

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