How the latest revelation in the North v South match goes against the very essence of the concept itself
As the return of rugby in New Zealand nears, excitement levels both domestically and abroad are building for the kick-off of next week’s Super Rugby Aotearoa.
It’s not just that competition – which will feature the presence of returning All Blacks Dan Carter and Nehe Milner-Skudder – that fans are eager for, though.
The countdown to Super Rugby Aotearoa means New Zealand Rugby is also closing in on the proposed and widely-discussed North v South clash.
Having been played on an almost annual basis over the course of 80 matches between 1897 and 1986, the inter-island match is set to be staged for just the third time since 1995 in the absence of a regular playing schedule due to the coronavirus pandemic.
NZR chief executive Mark Robinson has been publicly open about progressing discussions on how and when the event can be held, and mention of its return has created a buzz among rugby fans across the country.
“Now that we have this timeline locked in around Super Rugby, we can probably firm up around those particular fixtures, and I know the players are pretty excited around particularly the North v South game,” he told Newshub last month.
“There has been some talk around the qualification on what those two teams may look like and we will continue to work through those discussions.”
Many see great potential in this contest to install a nationwide rivalry in Kiwi footy that has rarely been seen since the game went professional.
The entire concept of New Zealand’s best players duking it out on the field so one island can hold bragging rights over the other mirrors the incentive behind Australian rugby league’s State of Origin between New South Wales and Queensland.
Both those states – from the playing, coaching and corporate ranks right through down to the each set of devoted fans – have deep-rooted despise for one another, and you only need to look at the title of the three-match series to understand why.
The players that pull on the respective blue and maroon jerseys do so to represent where they hail from.
Whether they were born in, raised in, played their junior rugby league in, or have strong family ties to New South Wales or Queensland, the 13 players on each team are there carrying the weight of expectation from those in each state who helped them reach the pinnacles of their career.
By virtue of representing a state that they have such a sense of belonging to, others within the region who have grown up or lived in the same or nearby areas to those players become attached to the side as they too feel represented.
When both sets of teams feel that way, you can expect there to be vitriol when they meet, which makes for top-tier sporting entertainment.
State of Origin, therefore, has become one of the most hyped and best-followed sporting events in this corner of the globe, with stadiums across Australia sold out without fail and international television audiences climbing well into the millions.
If NZR’s North v South concept is supposed to mirror that of State of Origin, it’s easy to see why fans across the other side of the Tasman Sea want to see that match so badly.
But if it’s to evoke that same sense of passion and affinity that rugby league’s most heralded series can boast, the right eligibility criteria has to be in place to create a true reflection of where both sets of players come from.
In the 99 years that the North v South match regularly took place before it was ground to a halt, the selection criteria was simply based on what province players represented.
Besides the fact that the North Island has ten Mitre 10 Cup provinces to work with against the South Island’s four, that system doesn’t accurately portray where all players originate from.
For example, Canterbury’s Sam Whitelock was born and raised in the farmlands of Manawatu, while Brodie Retallick came through the ranks in Christchurch before taking an offer to move up north to Hawke’s Bay.
However, based on that old-school logic, Whitelock would don the white of the South Island and Retallick would be opposing him in the black of a North Island jersey.
Those are just two of numerous instances of players inevitably representing who they are signed with rather than where they come from, leading to prominent rugby figures to voice their opinions on how teams should be picked.
All Blacks, Highlanders and Manawatu halfback Aaron Smith was among those to offer a suggestion, recommending the highly popular idea of picking players based on where they played their 1st XV rugby in high school.
Sweet As… I reakon school be better as that truly where u from not always M10 where ur from
— Aaron Smith (@Te_Nug) April 4, 2020
Others have followed suit, with one of the most commonly suggested variations of the rule being which island players were born on.
Ex-All Blacks wing turned Hurricanes assistant coach Cory Jane offered a creative spin, saying that he would like to see the fans vote for the players on each side in similar fashion to the NBA All-Star game.
While the 23-man match day squads would be selected by the fans, Jane said that coaches would maintain the right to select who would make the starting lineup for the occasion.
How cool would it be if they play this North Vs South rugby game, that they let the Fans vote for the players to play in it ?
It could be like a NBA all star game..
The coaches coaching the teams still pick who starts the game but the Fans determine who’s in the 23 ?— Cory Jane (@CoryJane1080) May 12, 2020
It’s the comments of newly-instated All Blacks skipper Sam Cane, though, that have appeared to resonate within NZR ranks.
“I was thinking one or two options,” the 28-year-old told The Breakdown last month.
“One could be where you played your first fifteen rugby or where you played your first game of senior (club) footy.”
That latter option seems to have gained some traction, with whispers on Twitter indicating NZR have asked players to provide them with who they first played senior club rugby for.
Today players were asked to provide who they played their 1st game of senior ? for.
Wrong criteria for North vs South team eligibility imo.
D.McKenzie born in S.I, educated in S.I but went north post school and played his senior footy up there so is in the North squad? Please.— Sam Casey (@Sam_Casey4) June 3, 2020
Credit has to be given to NZR’s attempt to inject some relevancy into the club rugby scene, which has been struggling to stay afloat in certain areas of the country for quite some time now.
However, just like how using what province a player is signed with isn’t a true reflection of where they originate from, the same can be said for basing North v South selection based on their first senior club.
NZME‘s Sam Casey highlighted how South Island born-and-raised Damian McKenzie would be lost to the North Island under such circumstances, and the same would happen with fellow South Islanders Anton Lienert-Brown and Atu Moli.
The South Island’s loss of the trio would be nullified, though, considering the sheer influx of playing talent that would head their way under such criteria.
McKenzie’s exit would be suitably filled by Jordie Barrett, who – despite being born, raised, educated and now signed with Taranaki – would turn out for the South after playing for Lincoln University in the Canterbury competition on a rugby scholarship straight out of school.
Barrett would be joined by elder brother Scott, who also linked up with Lincoln immediately after leaving Francis Douglas Memorial College in New Plymouth.
He would partner up in the second row with Whitelock, who is another Lincoln University product, as is North Island born-and-bred midfielder Jack Goodhue.
The Whangarei-born, Auckland-educated All Blacks star could form an all-Crusaders midfield with Braydon Ennor, who is an Aucklander at heart, but would only be South eligible after turning out for the University club in Christchurch.
The list goes on: Codie Taylor, Nepo Laulala, George Bridge, Brad Weber, Tyrel Lomax, Gareth Evans, Dillon Hunt and Josh Ioane are other All Blacks with strong, definitive ties to the North who would ultimately have to play for the South if senior club rugby was the determining selection factor.
There’s no doubt that a South Island team with all these players would make them a far competitive side than if selection was just left to where a player was born or schooled.
It’s those two factors, though, that would give a North v South encounter the authenticity to emulate the passion, tribalism and fanfare that is seen in State of Origin.
Without that authenticity, that connection to the fans – who want to see players represent the islands that they share in calling home – is diminished, which would go against the entire point of reinstalling the match in the first place.
The competitiveness of both sides to make an entertaining spectacle is important, there’s no question about that.
But, so is ensuring that both islands have the right players on the park based on where they’re actually from, not where they first played the moment they left their regions of origin after school.
It’s up to NZR to determine which aspect of the North v South concept is regarded the most important.
Potential 30-man North v South squads based on first senior club:
North Island
Hookers: Asafo Aumua (Avalon, Wellington), Dane Coles (Marist St Pats, Wellington), Nathan Harris (Te Puke Sports, Bay of Plenty)
Props: Atu Moli (University, Waikato), Aidan Ross (Te Puke Sports, Bay of Plenty), Angus Ta’avao (Eden, Auckland), Karl Tu’inukuafe (Takapuna, North Harbour), Ofa Tu’ungafasi (Grammar TEC, Auckland)
Locks: Brodie Retallick (Central, Hawke’s Bay), Tom Robinson (Kerikeri, Northland), Patrick Tuipulotu (Ponsonby, Auckland)
Loose Forwards: Sam Cane (Tauranga, Bay of Plenty), Vaea Fifita (Wellington, Wellington), Luke Jacobson (Hautapu, Waikato), Dalton Papalii (Pakuranga United, Auckland), Ardie Savea (Oriental-Rongotai, Wellington), Hoskins Sotutu (Marist, Auckland)
Halfbacks: TJ Perenara (Northern United, Wellington), Aaron Smith (Fielding Yellows, Manawatu), Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi (New Plymouth Old Boys, Taranaki)
First-Fives: Beauden Barrett (Coastal, Taranaki), Otere Black (College Old Boys, Manawatu), Aaron Cruden (College Old Boys, Manawatu)
Midfielders: Vince Aso (Ponsonby, Auckland), Ngani Laumape (Kia Toa, Manawatu), Anton Lienert-Brown (University, Waikato)
Outside Backs: Rieko Ioane (Ponsonby, Auckland), Damian McKenzie (University, Waikato), Nehe Milner-Skudder (Varsity, Manwatu), Sevu Reece (Melville, Waikato)
South Island
Hookers: Liam Coltman (Alhambra-Union, Otago), Ricky Riccitelli (Southern, Otago), Codie Taylor (Sydenham, Canterbury)
Props: Nepo Laulala (Sydenham, Canterbury), Daniel Lienert-Brown (High School Old Boys, Canterbury), Tyrel Lomax (Stoke, Tasman), Joe Moody (Lincoln University, Canterbury), Siate Tokolahi (Sydenham, Canterbury)
Locks: Scott Barrett (Lincoln University, Canterbury), Pari Pari Parkinson (Stoke, Tasman), Quinten Strange (Nelson, Tasman), Sam Whitelock (Lincoln University, Canterbury)
Loose Forwards: Tom Christie (Christchurch, Canterbury), Gareth Evans (Dunedin, Otago), Shannon Frizell (Marist, Tasman), Cullen Grace (Lincoln University, Canterbury), Dillon Hunt (University, Otago)
Halfbacks: Mitchell Drummond (High School Old Boys, Canterbury), Ere Enari (Lincoln University, Canterbury), Brad Weber (Dunedin, Otago)
First-Fives: Dan Carter (Southbridge, Canterbury), Josh Ioane (Southern, Otago), Richie Mo’unga (Linwood, Canterbury)
Midfielders: Braydon Ennor (University, Canterbury), Jack Goodhue (Lincoln University, Canterbury), Alex Nankivell (Stoke, Tasman)
Outside Backs: Jordie Barrett (Lincoln University, Canterbury), George Bridge (High School Old Boys, Canterbury), David Havili (Nelson, Tasman), Will Jordan (Christchurch, Canterbury)
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Exciting place to be for the young fella. I expected he was French Polynesian when I saw him included in the France 6N squad (after seeing him in NZs), and therefor be strong grounds we might loose him to rugby down here. Good, in that he is good enough to warrant such a profile, and from a journalism’s fan interaction aspect, to finally get a back ground story on the fella. Hope he has settled into NZ OK and that at least one rugby country will fit with him to help his development, which, if so, he should surely continue for a few years, and then that he can experience France to it’s fullest with a bit more maturity and less reliance on family than you would have at his current age. A good 3 or 4 years before he would be ready for International duty if he wanted to wait. Of course he already sounds good enough to accept a call up, and to cap himself, in the more immediate future (he’d have to be very very good in the case of the ABs), and he’ll get a great taste of that being with the Canes who have a bunch who are just a few years further into their career and looking likely Internationals themselves.
11 Go to commentsI remember towards the end of the original broadcasting deal for Super rugby with Newscorp that there was talk about the competition expanding to improve negotiations for more money - more content, more cash. Professional rugby was still in its infancy then and I held an opposing view that if Super rugby was a truly valuable competition then it should attract more broadcasters to bid for the rights, thereby increasing the value without needing to add more teams and games. Unfortunately since the game turned professional, the tension between club, talent and country has only grown further. I would argue we’re already at a point in time where the present is the future. The only international competitions that matter are 6N, RC and RWC. The inter-hemisphere tours are only developmental for those competitions. The games that increasingly matter more to fans, sponsors and broadcasters are between the clubs. Particularly for European fans, there are multiple competitions to follow your teams fortunes every week. SA is not Europe but competes in a single continental competition, so the travel component will always be an impediment. It was worse in the bloated days of Super rugby when teams traversed between four continents - Africa, America, Asia and Australia. The percentage of players who represent their country is less than 5% of the professional player base, so the sense of sacrifice isn’t as strong a motivation for the rest who are more focused on playing professional rugby and earning as much from their body as they can. Rugby like cricket created the conundrum it’s constantly fighting a losing battle with.
3 Go to commentsOh wow… “But as La Rochelle proved in winning in Cape Town this season, a cross-continental away assignment need not spell the end of days.” La Rochelle actually proved quite the opposite. After traveling to Cape town and back they (back-to-back and current champs) got mercilessly thumped the next week. If travel is not the reason, why else would a full-strength powerhouse like La Rochelle get dumped on their @r$e$ one week later?
26 Go to commentsYou know he can land a winning conversion after the full time siren is up. (Even if it takes two attempts.)
5 Go to commentsA very insightful article from Jake. I would love to know how South African’s feel about their move to Europe. Do you prefer playing in Europe or want to go back to Super Rugby?
3 Go to commentspure fire
1 Go to commentsA very well thought out summary of all the relevant complications…agree with your ”refer the Cricket Test versus 20/20 comparison”. More also definitely doesn't necessarily mean better!
3 Go to commentsMust be something when you are only 19 y.o and both NZ and France want you. Btw he wasn’t the only new caledonian in french U20 as Robin Couly also lived in Noumea until 17. Hope he’s successful wherever he chooses to play.
11 Go to comments“Several key players in the Stade Rochelais squad are in their thirties” South Africans are going to hate the implications of that comment!
5 Go to commentsI know Leinster did a job on La Roche but shortly after HT Leinster were 30-13 ahead of them and at a similar time Toulouse were trailing Exeter. At 60 mins Leinster were 27 ahead but after 67 mins Toulouse were only 19 ahead before Exeter collapsed. That’s heavier scoring by Leinster against the Champions. I think people are looking at Toulouses total a little too much. I also think Northhampton are in with a real chance, albeit I’d put Leinster as favourites. If Leinster make the final I expect them to win by more than ten and with control.
5 Go to commentsHey Nick, your match analysis is decent but the top and tail not so much, a bit more random. For a start there’s a seismic difference in regenerating any club side over a test team. EJ pretty much had to urinate with the appendage he’d been given at test level whereas club success is impacted hugely by the budget. Look no further than Boudjellal’s Toulon project for a perfect example. The set ups at La Rochelle and Leinster are like chalk and cheese and you are correct that Leinster are ahead. Leinster are not just slightly ahead though, they are light years ahead on their plans, with the next gen champions cup team already blooded, seasoned and developing at speed from their time manning the fort in the URC while the cream play CC and tests. They have engineered a strong talent conveyor belt into their system, supported by private money funnelled into a couple of Leinster private schools. The really smart move from Leinster and the IRFU however is maximising the Irish Revenue tax breaks (tax relief on the best 10 years earnings refunded at retirement) to help keep all of their stars in Ireland and happy, while simultaneously funding marquee players consistently. And of course Barrett is the latest example. But in no way is he a “replacement for Henshaw”, he’s only there for one season!!! As for Rob Baxter, the best advice you can give him is to start lobbying Parliament and HMRC for a similar state subsidy, but don’t hold your breath… One thing Cullen has been very smart with is his coaching team. Very quickly he realised his need to supplement his skills, there was talk of him exiting after his first couple of years but he was extremely shrewd bringing in Lancaster and now Nienaber. That has worked superbly and added a layer that really has made a tangible difference. Apart from that you were bang on the money… 😉😂
5 Go to commentsNot sure exactly what went wrong for him at Glasgow but it’s pretty clear he ain’t Franco’s cup of tea. Suspect he would have been better served heading out of Scotland around the same time as Finn, Hoggy and Jonny!
1 Go to commentsBulls disrespected the Northampton supporters and the competition. Decide quickly, fully in or out.
26 Go to commentsI wonder if Parling was ever on England’s radar as a coach? Obviously Borthwick is a great lineout coach, but I do worry he might be taking on too much as both head coach and forwards coach.
1 Go to commentsJason Jenkins has one cap. When Etzebeth was his age he had over 80 caps. Experience matters. He will never amount to what Etzebeth has because he hasn’t been developed as an international player.
2 Go to commentsSays much about the player picking this gig over the easier and bigger rewards offered to him in Japan. Also says a lot about the state sanctioned tax benefits the Irish Revenue offers pro rugby players, with their ten highest earning years subject to an additional 40% tax relief and paid as a lump sum, in cash, at retirement. Certainly helps Leinster line up the financial ducks in a row to fund marquee signings like this!!! No other union anywhere in world rugby benefits from this kind of lucrative financial sponsorship from their government…
5 Go to commentsTrue Jordie could earn a lot more in Japan. But by choosing Leinster he’ll be playing with 1 of the best clubs in the world and can win a champions cup and URC…..
6 Go to commentsThanks for that Marshy, noticed you didn't say who is gonna win it. We know who ain't gonna win it - your Crusaders outfit. They've gone from having arguably the best Super Rugby first five ever, to having a clutch of rookies. Hurricanes all the way!
1 Go to commentsGeez you really have to question the NRLs ability to produce players of quality. Its pathetic. Dont the 25mil in Aus produce enough quality womens players. Sad.
1 Go to commentsBulls fan here, and agree 100% with the conclusion (and little else) of this article. SA sides should absolutely f-off from the champs cup until we get fair scheduling, equal support for travel arrangements and home semis. You know, like all the european teams get.
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