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England players should be held accountable for run of defeats

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A dejected Maro Itoje - PA

Steve Borthwick is facing questions over his England future but Jamie George believes it is the players who should be held accountable for a run of five-successive defeats.

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South Africa emerged 29-20 winners at Allianz Stadium on Saturday to continue an autumn washout in the wake of losses to New Zealand and Australia, with the visit of Japan completing the series in a week’s time.

It is their worst sequence of results since 2018 and for the first time since 2006 they have lost three consecutive matches at Twickenham, piling pressure on to Borthwick.

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England’s head coach has the backing of the Rugby Football Union despite the alarming slump – albeit inflicted by high-calibre opposition – and George insisted he was not to blame for the decline.

“We are as frustrated as everyone else and it’s important for us as players to take responsibility for the last three performances,” the team’s captain said.

“When you look at the positions that we put ourselves in across all three games and when we play to the plan, I think we are a very, very dangerous team.

“When we stray away from that, we allow teams opportunities and that’s exactly what happened against South Africa.

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“We will be holding our hands up, we will be looking at ourselves and we’re making sure that we find the fixes so that we are ready to go against Japan.

“Of course we are disappointed with the results. We wanted to give the England fans three wins for three.

“There are definitely things that, of course, we needed to get better at. We need to find the fixes to closing out games.

“But I have every confidence and belief in the players and the staff that we will do everything we possibly can to be a significantly better team come next weekend, but also looking ahead to the Six Nations.”

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To continue a theme of the last five Tests, England were unable to convert a winning position and played their decisive final quarter without their captain on the field.

This time George was replaced by Luke Cowan-Dickie with 32 minutes to go and the Saracens hooker revealed in an interview with BBC Sport that “I felt all right out there”.

Borthwick’s use of his replacements has come under the spotlight this autumn, although at least against South Africa the influential Marcus Smith was allowed to finish the game at fly-half.

“We have leaders all the way across the field. If you look at the team that was on at the end, there was plenty of leaders in that team,” George said.

“If you speak to every player, they would always want to play every moment of every game. The hooker jersey is an 80-minute performance across two players.”

Jack Van Poortvliet, making his first England appearance in over a year, insisted it was up to the team to halt the slump.

“It is on us as players, we are in that position to go and get a result and turn it around,” the Leicester scrum-half said.

“We are going to keep learning, keep getting better and keep pushing, but the underlying feeling now is frustration. We are a close group that is progressing, but we need to fix the errors.”

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Head high tackle 1 hour ago
'Razor's conservatism is in danger of halting New Zealand's progress'

I really dont know what the problem is Nick. Cane was immense this year and no one below him demanded the job. TJ perhaps less so but he was always going to start the season at 9 anyway due to the thing they call experience. I think guys like Lakai will have learnt a lot from the likes of Cane and Ill garrantee TJ has helped the Roigard/Ratima/Hothem settle in to their roles much better than they would have had there been no experience around. At the start of 2024 these guys had 3 tests between them. Im glad TJ was around.

The biggest fail area from my pov is centre. Razors lack of desire to change what is clearly failing is a worry. Is he waiting for a full year of SR? Is he not sure? I dont know the answer of course but He fiddled where he shouldnt have and didnt touch the area he should have. WJ at 15 is an experiment. Its not a clear decision yet either. WJ is an amazing attacking player. He isnt an amazing kicker or an amazing decision maker.

The 10 position is being handled very badly too. Its Dmac but BB is constantly in there, Its BB but no 15 to back that up or its no one. GET RID of the centre pairing and get Love in at 15. The backs will function way better. All the players get their SR backs working far better than Razor has gotten, and with no dedicated backs coach in the ABs its a clear problem area.


Also this comparing SA with NZ when 1 side is retaining all their stars and the other side has had some major changes isnt a apples with apples comparison. Imagine comparing a F1 racing team where 1 team was 100% settled and the other was brand new....Just not a comparison worth doing as it proves nothing other than the blatently obvious.

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JW 1 hour ago
'Razor's conservatism is in danger of halting New Zealand's progress'

Razor is compensating, and not just for the Foster era.


Thanks again for doing the ground work on some revealing data Nick.


This article misses some key points points that are essential to this debate though;


Razor is under far more pressure than Rassie to win

Rassie is a bolder selector than Razor, and far more likely to embrace risk under pressure than his counterpart from New Zealand.

It doesn't realise the difficulties of a country like South Africa, with no rugby season to speak of at the moment, to get full use out of overseas internationals

Neither world player of the year Pieter-Steph du Toit nor all-world second row Eben Etzebeth were automatic selections despite the undue influence they exert on games in which they play.

The last is that one coach is 7 years into his era, where the other is in his first, and is starting with a far worse blank slate than where upon South Africa's canvas could be layered onto after 2017.

The spread at the bottom end is nothing short of spectacular. Seventeen more South Africans than New Zealanders started between one and five games in 2024.

That said, I think the balance needs to be at least somewhere in the middle. I don't know how much that is going to be down to Razor's courage, and New Zealands appetite however.


Sadly I think it is going to continue and the problem is going to be masked by much better results next year, even forgotten with an undefeated season. Because even this article appears to misconstruing the..

known quantities

as being TJP and Sam Cane. In the context of what would need to change for the numbers above to be similar, it's players like Jordie Barrett, Beauden Barrett, Rieko Ioane, Sevu Reece, Ethan Blackadder, Codie Taylor, where the reality needs to be meet face on.


On Jordie Barrett at Lienster, I really hope he can be taught how to tackle with a hard shoulder like Henshaw and Ringrose have. You can see in these highlights he doesn't have the physical presence of those two, or even the ones behind him in NZ like ALB and AJ Lam. I can't really seem him making leaps in other facets if he's already making headlines now.

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