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Toby Booth names which Ospreys player should captain Wales

Ospreys boss Toby Booth (Photo by Ryan Hiscott/Getty Images)

Toby Booth has named which Ospreys forward should captain Warren Gatland’s Wales in the coming season. The regional head coach, who is leaving his post at the end of 2024/25, last year saw his club duo – hooker Dewi Lake and back row Jac Morgan – named as co-captains for Rugby World Cup 2023.

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Across the five-game Welsh campaign in France, Morgan led the side on three occasions – including the quarter-final versus Argentina and the crucial pool win over Australia – while Lake was twice skipper. Both players missed the following Guinness Six Nations, Lake’s hamstring and Morgan’s knee resulting in Dafydd Jenkins captaining in all five outings.

Morgan unfortunately went on to suffer a hamstring injury and was ruled out of Wales’ summer games, enabling Lake to skipper against South Africa and Australia (twice) despite Jenkins also being involved. Now fit, Morgan has since been named by Booth as his Ospreys skipper for the 2024/25 season, but the coach believes Lake would be better suited to captain Wales.

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Appearing on the latest edition of The Rugby Pod, he was asked by co-host Andy Goode if he could pick either Lake or Morgan as Wales captain, who would he choose. “I will actually answer the question,” he replied.

“I could easily dodge that question but I don’t have to be a politician anymore. I’d pick Dewi Lake as captain for Wales because there is less competition for his place (at hooker). The one thing where Wales are right now is they need a little bit of consistency and Dewi Lake can give you that.

“Jac Morgan, I have named him as our captain to take over from (Justin) Tipuric because he has got all the attributes – a lead-by-example captain, doesn’t speak a hell of a lot but when he speaks people listen.

“What a great compliment of our programme really if you think about the two people we are talking about come out of ours, and the previous lot (Alun Wyn Jones etc) have come out of ours and also Adam Beard.

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“So from our point of view it shows how deliberate we have been and we have been deliberate about growing leadership here because it’s not going to happen by accident.”

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‘Props are awesome…so why don’t they win prizes?’

“The reason most props don’t last the whole game is that they expend proportionally more effort than players outside the front row. Should they be penalised for that?”

No, they don’t last the whole game because they are less fit than players outside the front row. I’d be interested to know if you’d apply this logic to other positions; do PSDT and Itoje regularly last longer than other players in their positions because they put in less effort?

None of this is about “penalising” props, its about being realistic about their impact on a game.


“While scrums are a small part of the game in terms of time spent in them, they have disproportionate impact. Dominant scrums win games; feeble ones lose them.”

Strength at the breakdown wins games. Good kicking wins games. Good handling wins games. Strong defence wins games. Good lineouts win games. Ultimately, I think that of all these things, the scrum is probably the least important, because it demonstrably doesn’t correlate very well with winning games. I don’t think Rugbypass will allow me to link articles, but if you google “HG Rugby Crowning the Best Scrum in Club Rugby” you’ll get a pretty convincing analysis that ranks Toulouse and Bordeaux outside of the 10 best club sides in the scrum - and ranks Leinster outside of the top 30.


“Or there’s Joe Marler’s epic performance in the Bristol v Quins 2021 Premiership Semi-Final, in which he finally left the pitch 15 minutes into extra time having signed off with a try saving tackle.”

Yeah - that’s a good example actually, but it kind of disproves your point. Marler played 95 minutes, which is unheard of for a prop.


“Maybe we need a dedicated Hall of Fame with entry only for props, and voted for only by props.”

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