Forget eligibility rules, Super Rugby can plug PI player drain - Dan Leo
World Rugby’s changes to Regulation 8 will do little to stop the plunder of the Pacific Islands’ player stocks, ex-Samoa captain Dan Leo tells James Harrington – but a Super Rugby side or two would make a big difference.
Bringing Super Rugby to the Pacific Islands would do more to prevent the talent drain than increasing residency requirements to five years – and will improve the competition, former Samoa captain Dan Leo believes.
“That would definitely be part of the solution,” he said. “It would give guys a reason to stay on the Islands. At the moment we don’t have professional rugby, so there’s no reason for them to stay there.
“The Super Rugby product has dwindled in the past few years. When you look at it, they’ve watered down the product and made it such a wide competition in terms of distances involved. And in the middle of it all, the closest place to Australia and New Zealand is the Pacific Islands. We have probably the strongest talent pool, too.
“It doesn’t make sense that the Islands have been overlooked for so long. But hopefully, as mainstream media pick up on that, it will start to change.”
Leo, founder of Pacific Island Player Welfare, which raises awareness and understanding of issues faced by Islanders tempted overseas by professional contracts, fears changing residency rules could have the opposite of the desired effect. “I know the aim was to get rid of the project player scenario. But my worry is that people will head overseas a couple of years younger, so they will be eligible by the time they are 19, 20, or 21. We have to be in a place to be able to protect guys if that does start to happen.”
Pacific Islands ‘plundered’
That protection begins at home, Leo said. “There needs to be regulation around rogue agents plundering player stocks in the Pacific.
“World Rugby can change eligibility rules to five years, but that does not deal with the issue on the Islands – that there’s no professional rugby. There’s no pathway there. If anyone wants a decent education or a professional rugby career, they have got to leave.
“A three-year residency or five-year residency rule does not change the fact that people want to leave because to make life better for themselves, they have to. Maybe that’s not a rugby issue. Maybe it’s a social issue, but it needs addressing.
“There are agents who are ripping off Pacific Island players. At the moment there’s no real regulation. They can go over to the Islands and pretty much do what they like. There’s a lot of money to be made from relatively cheap Island labour. When money’s involved things become very difficult.
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Missed opportunity
“When the game went professional in 1995, something could have happened to support the Islands. Since then, though, most will agree the gap between the rugby haves and have-nots has widened.
“If World Rugby had access to what contracts were being signed, by whom and for how much; and if agents had to say how much they were charging players for their services, I think it would go a long way to fixing the problem.”
Unions also have a responsibility to players brought over to play in their competitions, beyond the rarified atmosphere of top-flight rugby, Leo – who has played in France and England – said. “I had an email from the Fédération Française de Rugby (FFR) a couple of weeks ago. It said that there are 186 professional or semi-professional rugby players with Fijian passports in France alone.
“If you add Samoan and Tongans into that, I’d expect that figure to be the same again. You’re looking in the vicinity of 400 Islanders driving professional rugby in France.
Life after rugby
“At the end of those 400 guys’ careers, when they’re spat out of the other end of the game, what’s in place for them? Do they have the work experience and higher education support they need to generate an income after the game, or are they left high and dry?
“One of my fears is guys are coming out of rugby with little to show for a 10 or 12-year career, other than some good memories. I don’t think that’s good enough.
“If you’re playing top-flight rugby, chances are you’re being looked after quite well by your agent – he’s probably answering your phone calls because you’re bringing in a good pay packet, and clubs have really good support structures now thanks to switched-on team managers, and you have organisations like [player unions] the RPA in the UK and France’s Provale, but they are not being engaged by Pacific Island players – other than some of those at Top 14 and Premiership level. The guys in the lower leagues require a bit more support.”
Innocents abroad
The culture shock Pacific Island-born players face when they first move overseas may appear insurmountable. Leo said: “In a typical Samoan family, which I was brought up in, parents have total control over the finances, over everything. You’re not necessarily empowered to make life decisions until you’re 21, at least.
“In England, for example, you’re seen as an adult by the time you’re 16 or 18. In the Pacific Islands, that’s something that happens a lot later.
“For a lot of young players who move overseas, they’re going out and doing things and dealing with money for the first time in their lives. Their first rugby contract is the first time they have the responsibility to do all those things for themselves.
“It’s a very innocent upbringing for those guys on the islands and life can be very harsh outside those environments.”
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Super rugby is struggling but that has little to do with sabbaticals. 1. Too many teams from Aust and NZ - should be 3 and 4 respectively, add in 2 from Japan, 1 possibly 2 from Argentina. 2. Inconsistent and poor refereeing, admittedly not restricted to Super rugby. Only one team was reffed at the breakdown in Reds v H’Landers match. Scrum penalty awarded in Canes v Drua when No 8 had the ball in the open with little defence nearby - ideal opportunity to play advantage. Coming back to Reds match - same scrum situation but ref played advantage - Landers made 10 yards and were penalised at the breakdown when the ref should have returned to scrum penalty. 3. Marketing is weak and losing ground to AFL and NRL. Playing 2 days compared with 4. 4. Scheduling is unattractive to family attendance. Have any franchises heard of Sundays 2pm?
7 Go to commentsAbsolutely..all they need is a chance in yhe playoffs and I bet all the other teams will be nervous…THEY KNOW HOW TO WIN IM THE PLAYOFFS..
2 Go to commentsI really hope he comes back and helps out with some coaching.
1 Go to commentsI think we are all just hoping that the Olympic 7s doesn’t suffer the same sad fate as the last RWC with the officials ruining the spectacle.
1 Go to commentsPersonally, I’ve lost the will to even be bothered about the RFU, the structure, the participants. It’s all a sham. I now simply enjoy getting a group of friends together to go and watch a few games a year in different locations (including Europe, the championship, etc). I feel extremely sorry for the real fans of these clubs who are constantly ignored by the RFU and other administrators. I feel especially sorry for the fans of clubs in the Championship who have had considerable central funding stripped away and are then expected to just take whatever the RFU put to them. Its all a sham, especially if the failed clubs are allowed to return.
9 Go to commentsI’m guessing Carl Hayman would have preferred to have stayed in NZ with benefit of hindsight. Up north there is the expectation to play twice as many games with far less ‘player management’ protocols that Paul is now criticising. Less playing through concussions means longer, healthier, careers. Carter used as the eg here by Paul, his sabbatical allowed him to play until age 37. OK its not an exact science but there is far more expectations on players who sign for Top 14 or Engl Prem clubs to get value for the huge salaries. NZR get alot wrong but keeping their best players in NZ rugby is not one of them. SA clubs are virtually devoid of their top players now, no thanks. They cant threaten the big teams in the Champions Cup, the squads have little depth. Cant see Canes/Chiefs struggling. Super has been great this year, fantastic high skill matches. Drua a fantastic addition and Jaguares will add another quality team eventually. Aus teams performing strongly and no doubt will benefit with the incentive of a Lions tour and a home RWC. Let Jordie enjoy his time with Leinster, it will allow the opportunity for another player to emerge at Canes in his absence.
7 Go to commentsLove that man, his way to despise angry little men is so funny ! 😂
4 Go to comments“South African franchises would be powerhouses if we had all our overseas based players back in situ. We would have the same unbeatable aura the Toulouses, Leinsters or Saracens of this world have had over the last decade or so.” Proof that Jake white does not understand the economics of the game in SA. Players earning abroad are not going to simply come back and represent the bulls. But they might if they have a springbok contract.
22 Go to commentsA lot of fans just joined in for the fun of it! We all admire O'Gara and what he has done for La Rochelle
4 Go to commentsThe RFU will find a way to mess this up as usual. My bet is there will be no promotion into the the Premiership, only relegation into National League One. Hopefully they won’t parachute failed clubs into the league at the expense of clubs who have battled for promotion.
9 Go to commentsWell that’s the contracts for RG and Jordie bought and paid for. Now, what are the chances we can persuade Antoine to hop over with all the extra dosh we’ll have from living at the Aviva & Croke next season…??? 🤑🤑🤑
14 Go to commentsWow, that’s incredible. Great for rugby.
14 Go to commentsYou probably read that parling is going to coach the wallaby lineout but if not before now you have.
14 Go to commentsIf someone like Leo Cullen was in O’Gara’s place I don’t hear Boo-ing. It’s not just that La Rochelle has hurt Leinster and O’Gara is their Irish boss. It’s the needle that he brings and the pantomime activity before the game around pretending that Munster were supporting LaRochelle just because O’Gara is from Cork. That’s dividing Irish provinces just to get an advantage for his French Team. He can F*ck right off with that. BOOOOO! (but not while someone is lying injured)
4 Go to commentsDid the highlanders party too hard before the game? They were the pits.
1 Go to commentsWhat a player! Not long until he’s in the England side, surely?
5 Go to commentsHe seems to have the same aura as Marcus Smith - by which I mean he’s consistently judged as if he’s several years younger than he actually is. Mngomezulu has played 24 times for the Stormers. When Pollard was his age he had played 24 times for South Africa! He has more time to develop, but he has also had time to do some developing already, and he hasn’t demonstrated nearly as much talent in that time as one would expect. If he is a generational talent, then it must be a pretty poor generation.
6 Go to commentsThe greatest Springbok coach of all time is entirely on the money. Rassie and Jacques have given the south african public a great few years, but the success of the springbok selection policy will need to be judged in light of what comes next. The poor condition that the provincial system is currently in doesn’t bode well for the next few years of international rugby, and the insane 2026 schedule that the Boks have lined up could also really harm both provincial and international consistency.
22 Go to commentsJake White is a brilliant coach and a master in the press. This is another masterclass in media relations and PR but its also a very narrow view with arguments that dont always hold water. White wants his team to win, he wants the best players in SA and wants his team competitive. You however have to face up to the reality of a poor exchange rate and big clubs with big budgets. SA Rugby cant compete and unless it can find more money SA players will keep leaving regardless of Springbok eligibility and this happened in 2015 - 2017. Also rugby is not cricket. Cricket has 3 formats and T20 cricket is where the money is at. When it comes to club vs country the IPL is king but that wont happen because the international calendar does not clash with the club calendar in rugby. So the argument about rugby going down the same path as cricket is really a non-starter
22 Go to commentsNZ rugby seem not to have learnt anything from professional rugby. Super rugby was dying and SA left before they died with the competition. SA rugby did a u turn on their approach to international players playing overseas and such players are now selected for Bok teams. As much as each country would love to retain their players playing in local competitions, this is the way the world is evolving my friends. Move with it or stay 20 years behind the times. One more thing. NZ rugby hierarchy think they are the big cheese. Take a more humble approach guys. You do not seem to have your players best interests at heart.
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