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Sir Wayne Smith: NZR has jumped the gun on Razor’s All Blacks exit

AUCKLAND, NEW ZEALAND - SEPTEMBER 02: Sir Wayne Smith (L) talks with All Black Head Coach Scott Robertson (R) during a New Zealand All Blacks training session at North Harbour Stadium on September 02, 2025 in Auckland, New Zealand. (Photo by Phil Walter/Getty Images)

Sir Wayne Smith has delivered a frank response to Scott Robertson’s departure from the All Blacks, offering his honest views on the harsh realities of modern coaching.

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Smith has been operating in a Performance Coach role for New Zealand Rugby throughout Robertson’s tenure as All Blacks coach, overseeing and contributing to the leadership of both the All Blacks and the Black Ferns.

Recognised as one of the great minds of the game, ‘The Professor’ expressed plenty of sympathy for Robertson and described his coaching unit as “extremely competent”, also acknowledging they were still finding their feet two years into the job.

“It’s a tough old gig when 76% isn’t good enough. They obviously feel that the win percentage wasn’t going to improve, although that is just guesswork,” he said in a statement sent to 1News.

“The All Blacks’ history demands high standards, a winning attitude and innovation.

“Coaching in this environment is becoming more and more challenging. Egos abound, 76% win records are no longer enough.”

The most pointed part of the statement was when Smith spoke on the nature of season reviews and the player feedback involved. He also mentioned the harsh voices on social media.

“Disaffected players speak behind your back and get to rubbish you, incognito, during end-of-campaign reviews,” he said.

“Social media, hidden behind nicknames and alter egos, can tear you apart without remorse.”

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Sir Wayne emphasised the need to balance the enduring expectations of the All Blacks to be the world’s best with the patience needed to build the team up to that level of success.

“It takes time to settle on your way, and you just pray that you get the opportunity to prove yourself over time.

“Looking into the future to determine where the game is going next is critical. Making changes before they are needed is key. Others will copy and force you to keep going ahead.”

Public attention is quickly shifting to New Zealand Rugby’s new hiring process, which began “immediately” after Robertson’s exit.

Smith’s leadership will no doubt be leaned on by whoever is named as Robertson’s replacement, and while the now-ex-coach’s assistants remain in place – and will lead the team through a camp on Sunday – the incoming coach will be free to select their own assistants when appointed.

Sir Wayne’s attention wouldn’t search far beyond the week’s bombshell announcement, though, with the former Rugby World Cup-winning Black Ferns coach clearly emotional about New Zealand Rugby’s decision.

“Unfortunately, Razor hasn’t been given more time, greater opportunity to adapt and overcome many of the challenges new All Blacks coaches face,” Smith said.

“I feel sad about that — for Razor and our game.”

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Perthstayer 41 days ago

Borthwick has done what SR did not. Taking risks, new players, new coaches and new strategy. 11 games unbeaten.

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Spirit 42 days ago

Try….

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frandinand 42 days ago

Don't argue with Jacko. He gets upset if you don't agree with him.

For some unknown reason he thinks he knows more about rugby than even people like Nic Bishop and Wayne Smith

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PMcD 42 days ago

Moments like that take a toll and Razor would do well to take 6 months off, rebuild his energy and then go again - his outlook will change over time.


His record at the Crusaders confirms he’s a good guy but International Rugby was more of a challenge than he was expecting, everything is amplified, with shorter time with the players.


I think he was too loyal to his coaching team and day to day club management/training is very different to International camps, which is where they lost a lot of experience of Foster/Schmidt and with hindsight, Razor’s team always looked a little thin on experience.


As you say, it’s never personal but over to the new team to show what they can do differently when they are announced. Tough 24 months ahead but they have the players to suceed.

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Hammer Head 42 days ago

My comments about TB not leaving the boks are in direct response to the many comments and suggestions that if NZ gets Jamie (which they will by the way) TB will be there to sweeten the deal (which he 100% wouldn’t).


I was actually agreeing with you. But you missed that.

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Over the sideline 42 days ago

Nor I yours!

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cw 42 days ago

If Smith is right about the corrosive nature of the player reviews then someone with extensive rugby coaching experience needed to be on the panel to provide balance. Not Smith because he is too close to the coaching team and the players might not feel able to be open about their issues. Clearly he should however been consulted to give his insights. More importantly only a very experienced rugby coach with relatively recent exposure to modern rugby coaching demands (including its technical demands) would have any realistic appreciation of what a realistic “trajectory” is and be able to cut out the noise. As far as I can tell there was no one on the review with extensive rugby coaching expertise. That is a major flaw in the process.

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CR 43 days ago

NZ is going down a slippery path of thinking the head coach is a miracle worker. Like Wales found out it’s ultimately the same players.

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TokoRFC 43 days ago

The interesting thing for me is weather Razor actually agreed to leave and why he might have?


I reckon they might have proposed sacking some of his assistants and he stood by them.


They might also have suggested hiring another «head coach» to demote Hansen and he backed his plan and didn’t want the direction of the team to change

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Karlos G 43 days ago

I thought the same thing too that SR stayed loyal to his assistants who were gonna be sacked ‘They go, l go’

End of the day if it wasn't clicking and effecting players performance and morale, hopefully they find coaches who will! Pretty sure HC gonna be Jamie Joseph though unsure who his assistants will be l really hope there’s only two.There was too many chefs voices in the kitchen.lt was kind of ridiculous having this mini team of coaches

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BleedRed&Black 44 days ago

Almost 48 hours since the new broke about Sir Wayne Smith's condemnation, and Stuff Rugby News and NZ Herald Rugby News, NZ's two primary sources of rugby news, are still refusing to report it. Just when I thought NZ rugby journalism had reached rock bottom, now they've found a new low. We're reaching 1984 levels of propaganda with those two.


When Sir Wayne Smith, the most respected voice in NZ rugby, an employee of NZR and someone intimately connected with the previous setup, comes out and publicly and unequivocally condemns the process that led to Robertson being fired, as well as the decision itself, and two primary sources of rugby news refuse to even mention it, let alone give it the prominence it deserves, its a vivid demonstration of the bias, the selective reporting and agenda setting that defines those institutions.


And for anyone stupid enough to believe they have just missed the info, do you seriously believe that if Smith had come out and endorsed the decision to sack Robertson, Stuff and NZ Herald wouldn't have front-paged it? That they wouldn't have screamed it everywhere they could, and referred to it every time the sacking of Robertson was questioned?


Having said that, you have to wonder if/when Stuff and NZ Herald will jump ship and start a pile on against Kirk/NZR if/when the new coaching process turns to crap. They will have noticed that its already going that way, and fast.


Sir Wayne Smith [I do love giving his full and deserved title] has effectively rules himself out of involvement in the new regime. Rassie has laughed at NZR in telling them they ain't getting Tony Brown, on which so many of these idiots hopes were relying. McMillan has just ruled himself out as well. Having seen the damage Brad Mooar did to himself in 2019 when he abandoned his head coach role at Scarlets for Foster, he's too clever to jump on Jamie Joseph's already leaky ship. When Schmidt says no to any major role, which is almost certain given his family issues, his age and his sense of honour in relation to Australian rugby, that'll be another one down. More to come.


So the real question is, at precisely what point does Stuff and NZ Herald turn on the very process/decision/people they have been loudly endorsing for the last two days? Possibly when the most capable assistant Jamie Joseph has is Jason Ryan. Then, even that collection of propagandists might start reinventing reality yet again and wonder if NZR hadn't rushed to judgment, and displayed cowardice in the face of disgruntled players. Yet again.

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frandinand 42 days ago

I'm sorry but if you expect competence from the NZ Rugby Media you are bound to be very disappointed. A perfect example of how bad they're is Gregor Paul.

This is the man who in June said BB had locked in the number 10 position for 2027 RWC and then just recently said his loss of form in 2025 was inexplicable.

Go figure.

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DP 43 days ago

None of this is remotely surprising. Standing by for the unveiling of one Warren Gatland to resume hostilities against the Republic.

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cw 43 days ago

Did you see assassination piece in the Herald today, full of subjective value judgments. And what is remarkable is that there is no way for Robertson to respond.

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SC 44 days ago

This is a very valid criticism of NZ Herald and Stuff who provided very one sided views of Razor in 2025.

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Another 44 days ago

Slight correction to Wayne Smith, but Robertson’s standing record was 74% not 76% which may be slight, but the fine margin of possibly beating England at Twicknham last year may have made all the difference.


I think Smith is especially sympathetic to Robertson in that he coached him at the Crusaders and the All Blacks back in the late 1990s/early 2000s. Also, Smith himself lost the ABs coaching gig back in 2001 after two years, when he presented himself for re-selection. He had a tough time of it.


The feeling I have is that it is sad but necessary. Something simply was not right in terms of player and assistant coach’s restlessness while the performances in key matches last year were simply not good enough. It is possible that they could have reset with new assistant coaches, as happened in 2022, but it may have not been the precise same issue this time around. All coaches are accountable for their records and performances and while it can be brutal, they know the risks.

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SC 44 days ago

Smith may have been referring to Razor winning percentage in 2025 which was 77%

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Ardy 44 days ago

What a tragedy if the AB’s are heading in the same direction as the Wallabies, with player power the order of the day!

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DP 43 days ago

Not a tragedy, a comedy to the rest of us 🤣

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