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What Robertson exit tells us about where NZ rugby is at - Andy Goode

CARDIFF, WALES - NOVEMBER 22: New Zealand's head coach Scott Robertson during the pre-match warm-up during the Quilter Nations Series 2025 rugby international match between Wales and New Zealand at Principality Stadium on November 22, 2025 in Cardiff, Wales. (Photo by Ian Cook - CameraSport via Getty Images)

Scott Robertson’s shock departure as All Blacks head coach shows the fragility of modern-day coaching as well as the increasing prevalence of player power in rugby.

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The trigger is being pulled much earlier nowadays, although we aren’t quite in football territory yet, and everyone understands it’s a results-based business, but sometimes it isn’t down to wins and losses at all.

That’s certainly the case in this instance, given Robertson won 20 of his 27 Tests in charge and had a better record than predecessor Ian Foster, as the outcome of an internal review has been responsible for his demise.

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In terms of win percentage, he’s around the same as Fabien Galthie and only a couple of per cent behind Andy Farrell and Rassie Erasmus in terms of the current top international coaches, so his tenure has been far from disastrous.

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Scott Robertson acknowledges the crowd after the Quilter Nations Series 2025 rugby international match between Wales and New Zealand at Principality Stadium on November 22, 2025 in Cardiff, Wales. (Photo by Huw Fairclough/Getty Images)

Admittedly, a record defeat to South Africa didn’t help his cause one bit, but the other notable defeats in Argentina and at Twickenham are hardly reasons to be pushing the panic button.

However, certain players clearly haven’t been happy with the coaching methods, and the players’ voices have become a lot more important over the course of the last 10 or 15 years.

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It isn’t the first time a review has led to the departure of a head honcho; you only have to look at what happened to Martin Johnson with England in 2011, but it does feel like this is different, and there is a sense that if it can happen to Robertson, it can happen to anyone.

The former Crusaders boss won seven consecutive Super Rugby titles, so the results below international level were there, and one of his great assets has always been his popularity with his players as well as the media and wider public.

For what it’s worth, he’s come across as a really good bloke in my few dealings with him, but he seems to have divided opinion inside the All Blacks camp, and New Zealand Rugby have acted in order to keep more players from leaving with a World Cup two years away.

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Ardie Savea Scott Robertson” width=”1024″ height=”576″ /> WELLINGTON, NEW ZEALAND – AUGUST 09: Scott Robertson and captain Ardie Savea talk during a New Zealand All Blacks captain’s run at Sky Stadium on August 09, 2024 in Wellington, New Zealand. (Photo by Hagen Hopkins/Getty Images)
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Ardie Savea has obviously been mentioned as he has spoken out publicly and is the best player in the side, but there will be others as well, and it isn’t Robertson’s fault that the lure of more money abroad is more of a factor nowadays.

Putting personalities to one side, it would have taken a lot more discontent to persuade Richie McCaw or Kieran Read to jump ship than Savea, and we all know New Zealand’s problems run a lot deeper than who the head coach is.

The erosion of the aura around the All Blacks began long before Robertson took the reins, Super Rugby isn’t preparing players for the Test arena like it once did, participation numbers are down, and other countries have simply caught up.

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New Zealand are still a very good rugby team, but, regardless of who their head coach is, it’s tough to see them returning to the days of winning over 85 per cent of their Tests over a 10 or 20-year period as they did just after the turn of the millennium.

Savea may now stay in New Zealand, but there will be others who choose to go anyway. A lot of people have quickly forgotten that Richie Mo’unga is actually younger than Savea and has opted for the cash on offer in Japan over international rugby for the last two years.

Robertson’s assistant coaches have been an issue with Leon MacDonald and Jason Holland having left, and a lot of heat is on Scott Hansen at the moment. I’ve no doubt he’s made some mistakes, but he’s an excellent coach, and there’ll be a clamour for his signature now.

Scotland could be a potential destination, despite Gregor Townsend having signed another new contract not so long ago, but there aren’t too many obvious opportunities in international rugby, and there are a plethora of well-paid ones in the club game.

There’s a vacancy at Harlequins, who have links to New Zealand Rugby. Leinster might need someone if Jacques Nienaber chooses to return to South Africa. I’d be straight on the phone if I were running Newcastle Red Bulls or Gloucester, and there’ll be big money on offer in France.

Jacky Lorenzetti will be interested in taking him to Racing 92, with Patrice Collazo the latest to not be pulling up any trees in the French capital. Clermont might fancy sounding him out, too, and then there is the situation surrounding Ronan O’Gara at La Rochelle.

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La Rochelle’s Irish coach Ronan O’Gara looks on during the French Top14 rugby union match between Stade Toulousain Rugby (Toulouse) and Stade Rochelais (La Rochelle) at the Ernest-Wallon stadium in Toulouse, south-western France on December 28, 2025. (Photo by Valentine CHAPUIS / AFP via Getty Images)

The All Blacks could do worse than look at the Irishman, as they are missing a trick not having any outside influences on the coaching staff, something we’ve seen the Springboks do to great effect in recent times, and he was an assistant coach at the Crusaders, but it’s never going to happen.

O’Gara may well look to move on to pastures new, regardless, though, after spending over six years on the Bay of Biscay, and the La Rochelle job would be tricky for Robertson, or anyone else for that matter, to turn down.

As for his successor as All Blacks head coach, the names in the frame all appear to be Kiwis with some experience overseas, and Joe Schmidt and Dave Rennie would both be excellent choices, but Jamie Joseph is the frontrunner.

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His record with the Highlanders isn’t great at all, but he’s been coaching the All Blacks XV, has earned massive respect for his work with Japan, and the fact that he might be able to tempt attack coach Tony Brown back from the Springboks is a bonus.

Whoever the new man is, they know they have arguably the toughest job in world rugby on their hands… maintain a win rate of over 80 per cent, restore the aura, keep the players happy and presumably win a World Cup!

Oh, and there’s the small matter of a four-Test series away in South Africa on the horizon this year after the Nations Championship fixtures against France, Italy and Ireland, so it isn’t getting any easier.

Robertson will get a big payout for mutually agreeing to depart, as well as landing a plum job elsewhere sometime soon, and he’ll be gutted it hasn’t worked out, but his departure says more about players and the state of rugby in New Zealand than it does about him.

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Gary Clapham 44 days ago

When will the NZRFU realize there decades long money grabing arrogance and outright disrespect for its own countrymen is there true failing, its association with Sky sport has taken the game away from the very people they need now, the children who often don’t come from privileged homes,the children who can’t go to pubs etc,the children who unlike previous generations no longer get to sit up at 4 in the morning with there family’s,fathers grandfather's, uncles, family friends, mothers and sisters etc Those days are gone. You may also blame the NZ Government for allowing a government funded sporting body for taking our national sport from US,and monyterising what was originally meant for promoting the health and fitness of our children. Well along with many of our other sports now ransomed by Sky Sport I fear it’s to late to fix and our future all blacks will be playing video games instead. To blame a single coach for a decades long destruction of our potential player pool is ludicrous, if you give a farmer 200 acres of concrete and blame him for losing his live stock you would probably be the NZRFU you are 20 mins from full time and 15 points down NZ rugby it’s time to dig in, time to change your game plan and get the game back out to the All Black’s that count there only 5yos but they will watch and want to play if you let them see our magnificent game. I’m 65 years old, I remember listening to games on the radio watching them in black and white then colour I remember the family unity a test match bought to our homes I remember aching for Saturdays with my mates dreaming of being a star but most of all I remember being match fit, I've seen it all and I know as a certainty that big business is a plague to sport …change the board not coaches.

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Nigel_72 44 days ago

Proof that Richie Mo’unga was the key to Robertsons’ wins with the Crusaders.

Not sure why the Players Association reps were happy to see Razor go…

- after all, these Players (who selected themselves) [actual Selectors don’t select the AB lineup] chose the clearly past-it Beauden Barrett as the 1st Five for the English Test…

So the current culture in the All Blacks is not focused towards Winning.

It would be nice for the new All Blacks coach to force the players to sit together and watch many replays of courageous All Blacks Tests… including Tests the ABs lost - notably the 1986 Battle of Nantes

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KM 44 days ago

It wasn't just the loses most of our wins where not fun to watch as well

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Zinzan 45 days ago

AB forwards haven't been playing with any true cohesion for awhile now. Their stock has gradually diminished over the last 10 years. Veterans need to be brought back into fold to help innovate NZ forward play beyond what the Springbok pack are doing. Strong, athletic and dutiful don't meet the traditional mold of an AB forward. They need to strike the same level of fear that Kiwi backs have always commanded wherever they have played. I blame the high season long production demands and systemization of play. Ardie may be the last of the line of legendary AB forwards so the veterans like McCaw/Kaino/Zinny etc must be tapped to help. Regardless of this dip in “win rate" and consequ of changes to Super Rugby, the ABs will return to the acme of sport. There is no other magic but All ALL BLACKS MAGIC!!! You can't replicate it. It lives in the air and water of NZ.

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Koro Teeps 45 days ago

The decision to remove Razor simply accentuates the high standards and expectations of All Black rugby. Had nothing to do with Razors record and everything to do with quality of performance, especially in 2025. The opposition have caught up but the All Blacks were their own worst enemies during 2025. When players looked confused or indecisive on the field, its logical to question the coaching teams input. Look at the difference Joe Schmidt made to All Blacks when he joined team during 2022. Or the incredible transformation under Rassie for that matter, after Boks were beaten 0/57 in 2017. Experienced international coaches have a huge bearing on developing player IQ improving consistency of performance.


I think NZR have been asleep at the wheel since 2017, but the arrival of Kirk as Chair will see a new era of accountability, hard decisions made and noticeable improvement at all levels of our game.


NZ is a small rugby nation and faces many challenges, but we are still capable of punching well above our weight.

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GM 45 days ago

Enough of the ‘aura’ BS! Kiwis are way past this knee-jerk stuff. The ABs were in disarray: what’s happened is surgical and clean. Whoever comes in is going to make the ABs a more competitive team. It’s not so much about the win/loss ratio but the manner of. Most of the wins were scratchy, but the losses involved second half psychological melt-downs, against Argentina, South Africa and England (the chaotic thinking around that infamous tap penalty) that were unacceptable. We can cope with the ABs losing, but whether the new coach is Jamie J or Dave Rennie or ROG or Tana or a combination of these men, the ABs will be a lot more combative and abrasive. They may lose just as many (or more, given this year’s itinerary) but they’ll be a damn sight harder to beat.

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Kia koe 45 days ago

I bet no coach will want to do this job.

This could be all a domino effect from Ian times. NZR messed it up.


I also bet Richie left because of NZR at that time and the money was just bonus.


But also shows how good the ABs are. With all these dramas they only lost 3 games.

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DP 45 days ago

I feel the players have let themselves down and have put themselves under massive pressure to step up. Being manhandled by the Boks and England had nothing to do with Razor - seems like the “Aura” within camp surrounding the black jersey IS A THING - Mounga choosing Japan spoke volumes at the time and now the current crop of All Blacks have spoken even louder.

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Hammer Head 45 days ago

Aha. Clear KPIs:


1. 80+% win rate

2. Restore Aura.

3. Keep players happy.

4. Win World Cup


Easy peasy.

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Utiku Old Boy 45 days ago

Yeah - no big deal. Some trajectory would also be nice.

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GRB13 45 days ago

Talk about a poison chalice!

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Hammer Head 45 days ago

Aha. An aura article. Right on queue

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JO 44 days ago

What is an aura?? Is it a shimmering light? Is it divine? As a 60 year rugger fan: if it means every team anywhere sees playing the ABs as THE challenge, believe me, they still have it. How or why - small country. small population - who knows? No-one ever goes into a game against the ABs thinking it’s a done deal. Period. (I’m NOT an ABs supporter…) So much angst about so much success…some of it unrealistically otherworldly…LOL!

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Blackmania 45 days ago

An article that is far too lenient toward Robertson. It wasn’t the system or the modern era that brought Robertson down.

Robertson was simply terrible as head coach of the All Blacks. His communication was poor and he didn’t coach the team at all. Scott Hansen was the one doing that. There’s no point looking for excuses where none exist. The players didn’t pull the trigger. Robertson sabotaged himself.

NZR made the decision unanimously and without delay. We won’t know the precise reasons detailed in the review report, but Robertson’s work was deemed insufficient, and that is entirely logical. Everyone could see it. NZR has wasted a lot of time over the years by appointing head coaches who didn’t have the required level: Foster and Robertson. The All Blacks haven’t created anything for years now. They can’t even score tries off turnover ball anymore, which used to be their strength. They played like robots, with no creative ideas. It was painful to watch.

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Jen 45 days ago

Always with ‘the aura is gone’. Come up with something new.

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Hammer Head 45 days ago

Dead. I believe the Aura is dead Jen.

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SB 45 days ago

Robertson will get a big payout for mutually agreeing to depart

Hard to take an article seriously when the writer hasn’t done any research. It was confirmed he is receiving no payout.

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SC 45 days ago

He is being paid one year salary and has a one year no compete clause with Tier One nations.

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TokoRFC 45 days ago

There are a handful of other mistakes in there too SB…


Goode couldn’t even be bothered watching the presser before publishing this ramble

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RugCs 45 days ago

Maybe it is a show.


Robertson was fired behind closed doors, but the show to the public is that he decided after some reflection to walk away. This exit is to preserve his reputation as no team will want to hire a fired coach.


Kirk paid the penalty compensation when he fired Robertson. This show makes Kirk look like a savvy businessman who is running a tight ship and it shows that under his leadership there will be no waste.


So in the end the show is for public consumption, but behind closed doors it was a bloodbath and both parties lost.

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GRB13 45 days ago

He is not getting the remainder of his contract paid out that does not mean he is not getting a payout. When ever they say they came to a mutual agreement that Robertson would leave means he is getting a payout.

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