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What Jason Robinson makes of his ex-Wigan team-mate leading the Lions

England rugby-union players Andrew Farrell (L) and Jason Robinson attend an England squad training session at Bath University, in south-west England, 30 January 2007. England stand-off Jonny Wilkinson returns to a radically reshaped England line-up as Ashton seeks to regroup in the build-up to the World Cup in France later this year. Phil Vickery has taken over from Martin Corry as captain, fellow World Cup veterans Jason Robinson and Mike Tindall are back in the fold and former rugby league star Andy Farrell will make his international debut in the 15-man code. AFP PHOTO/PAUL ELLIS (Photo credit should read PAUL ELLIS/AFP via Getty Images)

Of all the players that have ever pulled on a British and Irish Lions jersey, none knew head coach Andy Farrell better as a player than Jason Robinson, who is backing his former team-mate to thrive in Australia next year.

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Be it for Wigan, England or Great Britain in rugby league or England in rugby union, Robinson and Farrell ran out alongside each other hundreds of times.

So while Robinson does not know Andy Farrell the coach, he knew Andy Farrell the player very well, and believes he has the leadership qualities that are needed on a Lions tour.

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Speaking at Canterbury’s launch of the 2025 Lions jersey, Robinson, a Lions tourist in 2001 and 2005, hailed the Ireland boss as one of the best players he ever played with, but highlighted the manner in which he commands respect from a squad.

“My old mate from Wigan, Andy Farrell, definitely one of the best players I’ve ever played with,” the World Cup winner said.

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“Leader, coach and just to be able to play all of those different roles, to be one of the boys but then to have the respect of the boys to lead them, I think is a great skill. I think just having him there at the helm will be great for the Lions.

“It will be great for the supporters because it’s one of those, he’ll sit and talk to anybody and give them the time of the day, but at the same time he will demand the utmost from the players and that’s what’s going to make next year’s Lions so special.”

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Tommy Bowe, a tourist in 2009 and 2011, shared Robinson’s view, and believes Farrell’s rugby league ethos is what makes him such a standout coach.

“I think Andy Farrell is the perfect person to lead the Lions,” the former Ireland winger said at the kit launch.

“You can see what he’s doing with Ireland at the moment. It’s going to be really interesting to see Andy Farrell going up against Joe Schmidt, obviously they were both coaching alongside each other with Ireland. So that’s going to be a really interesting battle.

“But what I love about Andy is that he’s got the rugby league ethos, there’s a real hard school edge to him he’s brought forward to union. But what he’s ingrained is the values of what rugby is. And you can see that within the Ireland setup.”

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Bowe emphasised what a unique situation a Lions tour is, citing his relationship with Farrell’s son, Owen, as an example of this, but said he expects Andy to bring the tour back to “old school” values to unite the squad.

“When you think about the Lions, it’s four countries coming together, players who are literally knocking lumps out of each other what could be just two, three weeks before that,” he added.

“I remember I turned up, it’s like the Irish, the Scottish and the Welsh and the fecking English. You walk in, and you’re like ‘Uh, Owen Farrell, what’s he really going to be like?’ But then you go and you room with him and he’s just this great down-to-earth guy. Somebody you have such battles with on the pitch, but you come together and you’re a team together and you enjoy a pint, I think Andy Farrell will bring it back to the old school values of going and having a drink together, spending time off the pitch getting to know each other and getting to know what makes each other tick.

“If you do that, that’s what will make it work on the pitch and I think that’s the ethos of what the Lions is. If you can all get together and bond off the pitch, it will all come together on it and that’s where I think Andy Farrell is the perfect man for it.”

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Scott Robertson has to take charge of his All Blacks in 2025

Haha crap man I wouldn't know if SR has ever made a profit. ABs subsidize everything. Factors like SR clubs not paying 'for' their ABs etc, normal having a star would cost you 2 or 3x as much as a regular, but NZR covers all that in NZ. Pretty sure was the case for the other two partners too. I doubt even NZR knows the exact ratios sponsors like Sky/Adidas/AIG/Altrad/Investec give for local product.


No doubt SR used to make more money with the 3 partners, but of course it was also split 3 way. TBH I don't think its going to be much different (I think the new deal is still higher than before?). That last deal was bumper despite the comp being in decline, then SA left and the deal was probably worth even more for NZ? Can't recall how that played out I think Sky kept the agreemnt (fully). They'll be taking a big hit but it would be anything to do with the state of the game.


So when you say bleeding, you mean since around 2013/14 right? When SA'n and Aussie crowds finally stopped turning up to watch NZ smash them every week. So again, I was just stating your picture was wrong, and you've got the wrong causes, I don't disagree too much with the idea it's 'bleeding' though, id1ots were complaining about NZ sides getting a rough deal come final time for a loooong period and lots of other things that dragged the game down but on the field it just kept getting better and better. The problem is this nationalistic concept, that caught up on them (previously being the great driver for interest) and fans didn't care about the top four teams like every other sports competition in the world. They only cared about their local teams not winning.


No, SR wasnt optimal, which is what it was recommended to have just the SR Pacific comp instead. I'm not sure how much better things are now though. It needs time?


I know how I'd like to find equilibrium and it's much like what you propose. One big difference is I just don't think they need to cut SR. I would switch investment into an NPC/fully domestic scene + youth, like you, I'd just have like a much shorter SR season and I'd try and create a university scene rather than high school, that little extra age demographic matters a lot to investment/interest.


It's what the NRL can pay, and I think I heard it recently for someone in the spot light. I used it as a future figure more than anything though, the idea being these other leagues are only going to be more and more competitive, so much so they take away local talent before it can have a chance to develop. And once it goes they're unlikely to develop into the player they would have here. Not choosing a path that can compete will be a disaster imo. Thus the All Black decline.


I think don't think theres any reason your ideas can't work though, with maybe a added little flair here and there to drive some extra revenue. 20 is just a number to get a picture how many of top 60 might dissapear, it's nothing Id calculated. Think of it as an 'at any particular time' number.


In general I think people so quickly forget those that leave and all hope is placed on the next guy. Think that were talking top 4 or 5 in a position, there are a lot of positions that don't place much past the number 3. Look at Bell, theres no one he would be one of NZ top dozen hookers, numerous people would have left without getting a shot and the likes of Riccitelli or Eklund are obvious better. You've got first fives like Burke, Jordan, Falcon, Black, Plummer next year, Ioane Sopoaga, West who at any one time are going to be 3, 4, and 5 in NZ order. You've TKB, Smith, now Perenara, Weber, even Ruru is having a standout season and ALL would be better than the 3rd best local in Hotham or Christie. Now weve got last season statistical best full back leaving in Stevenson, he's joining Moorby and Rayasi, Bridge, and god knows who else who's having an awesome year that would break him into the All Blacks if it was in Super Rugby. Midfield is stacked when at home would be scratching around for guys like the Umaga-Jensen boys hoping they were fit to fill out 4 or 5th best 2nd5 and centers, when the likes of TJ Faiane, Nankiville, Seta, Aso, Fekitoa, Goodhue, Leicester, Ngani, even one of my fav Rob Thompson would be better than getting down to picks like Aumua, Ennor, McCleod, Tupea, and those that would have to come after them. We've got some of my fav loosies in Lachlan Boshier, Charlie Gamble, Whetu Douglas overseas, now Akira, never my talented players like.


I think your top 60 must have be a picture of the 36 man Crusaders squad plus a list of last years All Blacks! Obviously I've gone off track here as sure, these players leave a big whole but it's not one that NZ hasn't been able to fill in the past while maintaining quality SR sides (the periods when it was rocking), but there will be a time when loosing too many of those quality players has a much bigger impact than the already currently disillusioned SR fan can take.


Bottom line is Australia have far more talent and players that we do (statistically) and all that would need to have in the short term to fix your perceived problem with Super Rugby is trade some the best NZ players into the Aus sides. Simple, problem solved, competitive comp achieved.

cut off super rugby and stop the bleeding . put all the money back into the remaining competitions

Is too quick, many will see it as an opportunity to leave and that starts the very risky slope. You have to have a plan. Any change needs to be gradual and with a better future prospect, until then, voices like yours are only going to undermine any possible immediate success.

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