'Owen Franks missing the World Cup... that highlighted how the game has grown, where you don't have any passengers'
John Afoa never expected life in the UK to turn out this handsomely. He had just turned 28 when he called it quits on the All Blacks, a winner’s medal dangling around his neck a fortnight after he had played his last Test, the 2011 quarter-final win over Argentina.
Belfast-based Ulster, Gloucester and now Bristol have been home since then and there is no sign yet of the finishing line for the soon-to-be 36-year-old tighthead. Only last month, not long after being chosen in the Gallagher Premiership’s dream team for 2018/19, the New Zealander signed a contract extension taking him through to June 2021. One in the eye for those who feel rugby is very much becoming a younger man’s sport.
Pushing the boundaries has become a badge of honour to Afoa. “When I left New Zealand I was part of the World Cup-winning team, but I knew I didn’t know it all,” he told RugbyPass. “Just because I was in a successful team, it doesn’t mean you know it all. A big thing that Pat (Lam) drives at Bristol and in other places I have been in is just being coachable.
“So going up to Ulster, I learned things off Allen (Clarke) and the coaches up there about lineouts, about a different way to scrum. Going to Gloucester, we had Laurie (Fisher) at the start and did breakdown work, so I really just invested in trying to better my game.
“Like I said before, I don’t know everything. I’m not the fittest player in the world, so why can’t I get better at that? Why can’t I be better at scrums? That is having the right attitude about being coachable and not having any limits physical.”
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Still, he never fathomed he would be away from home for this long. “Definitely, when I first moved to Ulster many moons ago I was only going to go away for three years. I thought I was 28 then, by 31 I probably would be done and dusted.
“I did three good years, had a great time, and then when Gloucester came knocking, I was like, ‘Feeling good, feeling great, I’ll go down there’. Did four years and it was quite tough at times, but in that final year, Dan Tobin was the trainer and Johan (Ackermann) the coach. I found a little bit of youth again and things were going good.
“Then I got the call again to go down to Bristol and working with Pat, working with the trainers, medical staff, I feel like… I know people say you get better as you get older but I feel like I’m in a great place at the moment. Physically I have been challenging the limits of what a 35-, 36-year-old can do. Why can’t he be just as fit as he was when he was 20? Why can’t he be just as strong?”
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In all his time in the UK, there has never been an offer for Afoa to go home and go back playing at Super Rugby level, but that didn’t mean he wasn’t tempted to leave. ‘There was a time our kids were getting a bit older, so we were half-thinking about going home and calling it quits.
“But like I said, I have been feeling amazing the last few years and I guess when you play you don’t want regrets when you finish and I think if I did finish any earlier I would always have a ‘What if? I should have kept playing’. At the moment, I’m just happy to be contributing.”
It’s quite the steeled mindset to possess in a sport where the demands now placed on a tighthead are a world away from what the nuts and bolts role used to be in the not-so-distant past. “It is harder,” he insisted.
“The scrums have stayed the same but the expectation around the field is getting more and more. A very good example is Owen (Franks) missing out on the World Cup (with New Zealand). That has just highlighted how the game has grown, where you don’t have any passengers.
“Yes, you have got to be able to do your core job well, but that is not enough any more. You have got to be able to catch and pass, you have got to be able to run lines, you have got to be able to tackle backs even if you are one-on-one.
“That is just the way the game is going and being in the front row is the hardest because again you love a job that is traditionally a big man’s job. You have got to be able to push, you have got to be able to hold down the scrum and lift in the lineouts and then you have got to still be fit enough to run around and do everything else. It’s a tough balance.”
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The impending Premiership season is currently at the forefront of Afoa’s mind, but that doesn’t mean he won’t have an enthusiastic interest in New Zealand’s bid to win a third consecutive World Cup. A few weeks after their squad was confirmed, he is still taken aback that old rival Franks, the starting tighthead in the 2011 and 2015 triumphs, was suddenly cast aside at the age of 31.
“It was (a surprise). I thought he has been the backbone of the scrum for the ABs. I’m not in the team, so I don’t really know what is going on, but just from what Steve (Hansen) has said they are looking for a more playing prop once the game opens up.
“I’m sure it was a tough call for them but they have a way that they want to play and Owen is not in the mould at the minute. It doesn’t mean in a year’s time he could be doing it for Northampton. That is just the place he is at the moment,” he said, going on to give the All Blacks his backing win a third title on the bounce.
“They have got a strong team and they are always going to be there or thereabouts, but I do think teams like England and Ireland, Wales and Fiji on their day maybe, there is strong enough teams there that can contest it.
“You could see South Africa finish well, and Australia showed they could beat New Zealand. England are playing well, have got a strong squad. Eddie Jones has coached and played in Japan. He knows the craic over there and I do think they will be more wary of the struggles and the hardness of it [playing in Japan].”
Afoa has long since made his own peace with the All Blacks. There was a stretch where he didn’t consider himself a World Cup winner, having only watched the 2011 final from the Eden Park stands. But that perspective has completely changed and there will be a time in the future when the medal that is currently in storage in New Zealand will take pride of place in the Afoa household.
“It was different for me because not playing in the final is always tough,” he explained. “Initially, straight after the World Cup, say the first 12 to 18 months, people were asking how was it winning the World Cup and I always fended off saying, ‘I didn’t win it as I wasn’t part of the team’.
“As I look back now I wasn’t on the field but I still had a strong part to play prepping the team, making sure they were training well, all that kind of stuff, so as the years have gone on I got a better appreciation of what we actually achieved that year in 2011.
“Even though only 22 players could play the whole squad of 33, 34 guys were hanging in there supporting each other,” he said before signing off with a mention of the all-important medal.
“It’s just in a box in storage. In the first few years, my wife kept it in flower box on the top of a cupboard, but now it is just in a cupboard in storage (in New Zealand). Hopefully, when I get home the kids can have more appreciation for it as well.”
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This is short sighted from Clayton if you ask me, smacks of too much preseason planning and no adaptability. What if DMac is out for a must win match, are they still only going to bring their best first five and playmaker on late in the game? Trusting the game to someone who wasn’t even part of planning (they would have had Trask pinned in as Jacomb preseason). Perhaps if the Crusaders were better they would not have done this, but either way imo you take this opportunity to play a guy you might need starting in a final rather than having their 12th game getting comfortable coming off the bench.
1 Go to commentsThanks Brett.. At last a positive article on the potential of Wallaby candidates, great to read. Schmidt’s record as an international rugby coach speaks for itself, I’m somewhat confident he will turn the Wallaby’s fortunes around …. on the field. It will be up to others to steady the ship off the paddock. But is there a flaw in my optimism? We have known all along that Australia has the players to be very competitive with their international rivals. We know that because everyone keeps telling us. So why the poor results? A question that requires a definitive answer before the turn around can occur. Joe Schmidt signed on for 2 years, time to encompass the Lions tour of 2025. By all accounts he puts family first and that’s fair enough, but I would wager that his 2 year contract will be extended if the next 18 months or so shows the statement “Australia has the players” proves to be correct. The new coach does not have a lot of time to meld together an outfit that will be competitive in the Rugby Championship - it will be interesting to see what happens. It will be interesting to see what happens with Giteau law, the new Wallaby coach has already verbalised that he would to prefer to select from those who play their rugby in Australia. His first test in charge is in July just over 3 months away .. not a long time. I for one wish him well .. heaven knows Australia needs some positive vibes.
21 Go to commentsWhat a load of bollocks. The author has forgotten to mention the fact that the Crusaders have a huge injury toll with top world class players out. Not to mention the fact that they are obviously in a transition period. No this will not spark a slow death for NZ rugby, but it does mean there will be a new Super Rugby champion. Anyone who knows anything about NZ rugby knows that there is some serious talent here, it just isn’t all at the Crusaders.
2 Go to commentsI wouldn’t spend the time on Nawaqanitawase! No point in having him filling in a jersey when he’s committed to leave Union. Give the jersey to a young prospect who will be here in the future.
4 Go to commentsIt was a pleasure to watch those guys playing with such confidence. That trio can all be infuriating for different reasons and I can see why Jones might have decided against them. No way to justify leaving Ikitau out though. Jorgensen and him were both scheduled to return at the same time. Only one of them plays for Randwick and has a dad who is great mates with the national coach though.
53 Go to commentsBrayden Iose and Peter Lakai are very exciting Super Rugby players but are too short and too light to ever be a Test 8 vs South Africa, France, Ireland, and England, Lakai could potentially be a Test player at 7 if he is allowed to focus on 7 for Hurricanes.
7 Go to commentsPencils “Thomas du Toit” into possible 2027 Bok squad.
1 Go to commentsDon’t see why Harrison makes the bench. Jones can play at 10 if needed, and there is a good case for starting her there to begin with if testing combinations. That would leave room for Sing on the bench
1 Go to commentsWhat a load of old bull!
1 Go to commentsOf the rugby I’ve born witness to in my lifetime - 1990 to date - I recognize great players throughout those years. But I have no doubt the game and the players are on average better today. So I doubt going back further is going to prove me wrong. The technical components of the game, set pieces, scrums, kicks, kicks at goal. And in general tactics employed are far more efficient, accurate and polished. Professional athletes that have invested countless hours on being accurate. There is one nation though that may be fairly competitive in any era - and that for me is the all blacks. And New Zealand players in general. NZ produces startling athletes who have fantastic ball skills. And then the odd phenomenon like Brooke. Lomu. Mcaw. Carter. Better than comparing players and teams across eras - I’ve often had this thought - that it would be very interesting to have a version of the game that is closer to its original form. What would the game look like today if the rules were rolled back. Not rules that promote safety obviously - but rules like: - a try being worth 1 point and conversion 2 points. Hence the term “try”. Earning a try at goals. Would we see more attacking play? - no lifting in the lineouts. - rucks and break down laws in general. They looked like wrestling matches in bygone eras. I wonder what a game applying 1995 rules would look like with modern players. It may be a daft exercise, but it would make for an interesting spectacle celebrating “purer” forms of the game that roll back the rules dramatically by a few versions. Would we come to learn that some of the rules/combinations of the rules we see today have actually made the game less attractive? I’d love to see an exhibition match like that.
29 Go to commentsIrish Rugby CEO be texting Andy Farrell “Andy, i found our next Kiwi Irishman”
5 Go to commentsI certainly don’t miss drinking beers at 8am in the morning watching rugby games being played in NZ.
1 Go to commentsThis looks like a damage limitation exercise for Wales, keeping back some of their more effective players for the last 20/25 minutes to try and counter England’s fresh legs so the Red Roses don’t rack up a big score.
1 Go to commentsVery unlikely the Bulls will beat Leinster in Dublin. It would be different in Pretoria.
1 Go to commentsI think it is a dangerous path to go down to ban a player for the same period that a player they injured takes to recover. Players would be afraid to tackle anyone. I once tackled my best friend at school in a practice match and sprained his ankle. I paid for it by having to play fly-half instead of full-back for the rest of that season’s fixtures.
5 Go to commentsJust such a genuine good bloke…and probably the best all round player in his generation. Good guys do come first sometimes and he handled the W.Cup loss with great attitude.
2 Go to commentsWord in France is that he’s on the radar of a few Top14 clubs.
5 Go to commentsGet blocking Travis, this guy has styles and he’s gonna make a swift impact…!
1 Go to commentsWhat remorse? She claimed that her dangerous tackle wasn’t worthy of a red! She should be compensating the injured player for loss of earnings at the minimum. Her ban should include the recovery time of the injured player as well as the paltry 3 match ban.
5 Go to commentsArdie is a legend. Finished and klaar. Two things: “Yeah, yeah, I have had a few conversations with Razor just around feedback on my game and what I am doing well, what I need to improve on or work-ons. It’s kind of been minimal, mate, but it’s all that I need over here in terms of how to be better, how to get better and what I am doing well.” I hope he’s downplaying it - and that it’s not that “minimal”. The amount of communication and behind the scenes preparation the Bok coaches put into players - Rassie and co would be all over Ardie and being clear on what is expected of him. This stands out for me as something teams should really be looking at in terms of the boks success from a coaching point of view. And was surprised by the comment - “minimal”. In terms of the “debate” around Ireland and South Africa. Nice one Ardie. Indeed. There’s no debate.
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