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What Scott Robertson makes of a potential All Blacks-Springboks quarter final

CARDIFF, WALES - NOVEMBER 22: Scott Robertson, Head Coach of New Zealand, looks on prior to the Quilter Nations Series 2025 match between Wales and New Zealand at the Principality Stadium on November 22, 2025 in Cardiff, Wales. (Photo by Dan Mullan/Getty Images)
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The rugby world sat on the edge of their seats as the Rugby World Cup 2027 pools were drawn on Wednesday night in Sydney, and fans, pundits, and players were all quick to piece the puzzle together and find their teams’ respective routes to victory. For New Zealand, that route couldn’t be much more difficult.

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The All Blacks will square off with tournament hosts, Australia, in Pool A, with the winner of that pool facing a third-placed team from pools C, E, or F in the round of 16. Should they advance from that stage, the quarter-final could see them face the winner of Pool B, which includes back-to-back world champions and New Zealand’s arch-rivals, South Africa.

Fellow top six team France are a potential semi-final opponent, while England, Ireland, and Argentina remain on the other side of the draw as potential finalists.

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The possibility of an All Blacks-Springboks quarter-final was a major topic when New Zealand head coach Scott Robertson addressed the media on Thursday morning, following the draw.

Robertson shared what was going through his mind as the teams were drawn, and his initial reaction when it was confirmed his side would be pooled with trans-Tasman rivals, Australia.

“The deeper it went and the fewer balls that were in there, you felt it was inevitable, getting into Pool A and playing Aussie,” he said. “We get to play them quite a lot, but it will be pretty special and unique to do it at a Rugby World Cup, especially when it’s their one.

“And then it was looking through everyone else, seeing who it’s likely to be afterwards, what are the permutations, and who do we play after our pool?

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“We knew Pool A and B get together, and that was one of the scenarios you look at; who’s going to be the lineup, who’s going to be first in that pool and second in that pool. You do a little bit of homework.

“You look at it and go, ‘okay, we get to play South Africa a lot, and this is just another time that you get to have a crack at it. Coming into a World Cup, you’re going to have to face someone in their form to win it, and if it’s in the quarter-final, that’s the way it works out, that’s just part of the draw. You’ve got to embrace it.”

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The coach was keenly aware of how the knockout stages are set up and admitted to wanting to be a little further away from the world’s No. 1-ranked team, South Africa, in the draw.

“As I said, the inevitability of it, the further we got down, and then Brett (Robinson) only had three balls left, you were going, ‘okay, you have to be next, otherwise you’re playing South Africa’, because you knew you were going to be in pools B and A.”

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Should New Zealand emerge from Pool A as the second seed, they would face the runner-up from Pool E in the round of 16, which includes France, Japan, the USA, and Samoa. From there, a quarter-final date with either the winner of Pool F (England, Wales, Tonga, Zimbabwe) or the runner-up in Pool B (South Africa, Italy, Georgia, Romania) would await.

Given all of the possible scenarios end with New Zealand potentially playing a fellow top-three team, Robertson was asked whether winning every pool game would actually benefit the All Blacks or not.

“That’s one of the anomalies of the way the format has gone along. And just with the sides of the draw, the way it shapes, sometimes it can form that way.

“But look, you play your best every Test, that’s the mindset you’ve got to have, but there’s definitely strategy there.”

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KZ7 282 days ago

QF exit?well we’ve been there before

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TokoRFC 282 days ago

Woe. The day the once mighty All Blacks are looking timorously at a world cup draw is upon us…


Credit to South Africa’s current form, this response in itself is a psychological victory for the Boks. Get your crayons out Scott, you’ve got plenty more homework to do!

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Jbo 283 days ago

“…. and that QF exit will be my last game as AB coach”

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SB 283 days ago

Speaking as if his job is secure for that World Cup I see.

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Another 283 days ago

It is. He is contracted through the 2027 World Cup. I mean, he could be sacked, but what do want him to say: “Oh, I won’t be coach by then anyway”? Keep it real, mate.

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Yep a lot of key players were injured and on top of that. NZ has a growing issue with losing up and coming talent to league (e.g. Harry Inch, who was being touted as a future ABs 10), an issue South Africa doesn’t have, and they don’t have our eligibility restrictions. The likes of Frizzell or Flanders could’ve helped the situation at 6 or Retallick at lock (even just for the IP at camp). Honestly though, Super Rugby simply doesn’t pay anywhere near enough to just open the floodgates and let the players move without the carrot of an ABs jersey unless they boost the salary caps enough to be competitive (perhaps not to the same amount as the European clubs, but even if it’s up to like 3/4 what they pay). I’d prefer that they increase the salary cap, loosen the eligibility within Super Rugby (i.e. letting NZers playing in Aussie teams still be eligible) and actively shop players around more for their sabbaticals (especially to Europe with what that’s done for Jordie and Rieko).

Honestly with the bench, what the ABs historically had were midfielders who got in the breakdowns and functioned as spare loosies. Conrad Smith was underrated as a turnover merchant in his own right and Nonu used to help with a lot of cleanouts. I don’t quite think we need to adopt a 6-2 (I’ve already seen it fail in the NPC a few times, including my own team getting injuries and having to put a 9 on the wing to bad results) but just manage the skillsets better.



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