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Dave Rennie and the search for a lucky All Blacks charm at 13
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There is a long list of things former All Blacks coach Scott Robertson didn’t get right in his two-year tenure, but chiefly, he didn’t build a team that had either a clear cultural or playing identity.

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Again, there is a long list of reasons why he failed to achieve these two key goals, and in the case of the latter, the chief problem was his inability to identify, develop and stick with any one centre.

It was a position which Robertson just couldn’t work out who and what he wanted. It was never clear if he wanted an out-and-out distributor and facilitator, or a smash and bash off-loader.

Did he want strike power and speed, or was he after a genuine play-maker who could make good tactical decisions?

It was impossible to tell what he wanted because his selections were never consistent or seemingly linked to the attack plan.

He started with Rieko Ioane in 2024 but gave up with him by the end of the year. Robinson felt Ioane didn’t know when to pass or how to do it effectively.

At the start of last year he went with the pass and catch skills of Billy Proctor but lost confidence in him through the Rugby Championship when his decision-making and defensive reading were exposed as flawed.

Rieko Ioane
Rieko Ioane’s distribution was questioned by Scott Robertson and he was discarded as an option at outside centre (Photo Craig Butland/Getty Images)

He experimented with Quinn Tupaea who delivered a combination of direct running and neat passing and also gave game time to Leicester Fainga’anuku and Anton Lienert-Brown.

But in 27 Tests in charge, Robertson never worked out who his preferred No 13 was and that failing had a significant bearing on why the All Blacks never built a cohesive and recognisable attack game.
Now that Dave Rennie has taken over, finding the right player at centre to facilitate the sort of attack game he has in mind will be, arguably, one of the great challenges of 2026.

He’s got to do what Robertson never did and make his mind up quickly about who he wants at centre and why.

And what will help him is that Super Rugby has thrown up some answers – or confirmed some obvious All Blacks selections.

Cam Roigard is a non-negotiable at halfback, and Jordie Barrett has had a commanding season at No 12 for the Hurricanes – killing any notion, surely, of shifting him to fullback.

These two are no-brainers and if Rennie is true to his word about picking on form, then it’s hard to see how anyone other than Ruben Love can be picked at first-five, making the critical 9-10-12 axis an all-Hurricanes affair.

These two are no-brainers and if Rennie is true to his word about picking on form, then it’s hard to see how anyone other than Ruben Love can be picked at first-five, making the critical 9-10-12 axis an all-Hurricanes affair.

This naturally leads to Proctor being under heavy consideration as he’s been instrumental in delivering the Hurricanes all-court attack, and he’s combined effortlessly with Barrett in a way they never did when they were All Blacks’ midfield partners last year.

The 66-12 qualifying final demolition of the Brumbies showcased the Hurricanes super simple attack game at its best, and Proctor played a huge part in generating the flow.

But then there is the form of Tupaea, who has been outstanding for the Chiefs both at 12 and 13. He’s more direct and powerful than Proctor, comes with soft hands and clever offloads, and is an improving defender.

Billy Proctor
With the form of the Hurricanes, there is an argument to say Billy Proctor would be a good fit for the No 13 jersey (Photo Hannah Peters/Getty Images)

Proctor and Tupaea are the two leading domestic cases, as Rennie is unlikely to be swayed by Fainga’aunuku as a 13. The Crusaders utility doesn’t defend well enough to be a Test option at centre and is presumably being lined up as an option at wing or flanker where he has mostly played this year.

The prospect of Rennie picking a wild card is slim because the options are slim. Daniel Rona has barely played, and AJ Lam, Brayden Ennor, Dallas McLeod and Riley Higgins are leaving.
There are, however, two other options who didn’t play in Super Rugby as they were on sabbatical.

The first of those is Lienert-Brown who, co-incidentally, was at Kobe where Rennie has been coaching. The veteran has reportedly been in good form, but it would seem a tough and politically unpopular call for Rennie to start the July Tests with a player who hadn’t been playing in New Zealand – especially when Tupaea and Proctor have delivered the way they have.

And then, of course, there is Ioane – who has been at Leinster and playing to mixed reviews. “He wasn’t in the top physical condition or form coming over. And he’s been slow, to be honest. He was very slow,” said former Ireland player turned analyst Bernard Jackman recently.

There is an unwritten rule that senior All Blacks who are granted sabbaticals, are picked when they return almost regardless of how they have played while they have been offshore, because if they are left out, it will kill the whole programme.

“I just think over the last three weeks, Rieko has performed much better. He’s had a big impact in the game. He made a try-saving tackle last week to keep Leinster in it.

“Last play of the game against Toulon [Champions Cup semi-final], the force of turnover. If he hadn’t made that tackle, Leinster would have been out. And the weekend against the Lions, he scored a couple of tries.”

There is an unwritten rule that senior All Blacks who are granted sabbaticals, are picked when they return almost regardless of how they have played while they have been offshore, because if they are left out, it will kill the whole programme.

The top players have an expectation that leaving for six months with their employer’s permission will not cost them their All Blacks’ place.

Quinn Tupaea is arguably the form 13 in New Zealand right now but is the the right foil for Jordie Barrett? (Photo Michael Bradley/Getty Images)

So Ioane is likely to be included in the 34-man July squad, but Rennie is going to have to make two big calls: is the 29-year-old a centre or a wing? And is Ioane still good enough to play Test rugby irrespective of position?

The All Blacks will pick 34 players for the July leg of the Nations Championship, 44 for the Greatest Rivalry Tour to South Africa and 34 for the November leg of the Nations Championship.

By November, the squeeze will be on because inevitably some new players will emerge from the South African tour, and Richie Mo’unga will be available which will force someone to be cut for him to be included.

And then the question will be whether there is room for all of Proctor, Tupaea, Lienert-Brown and Ioane?

The answer to that question and indeed the more specific one about who Rennie will pick at centre is linked directly to what sort of attack patterns are employed.

Rennie has picked Mike Blair to organise and run the attack and the former Scotland halfback has not given much away to date.

In the few interviews he’s done since being appointed, he has said: “In terms of game strategy, how do you use your kicking game to turn a team, to get them to kick back to you to break the game up again so that you get these one on ones in wide channels.

A big part of our game is how we can de-structure the defence, so we talk about turnover ball, we talk about creating counter-attack ball and to do that obviously you need good tacklers or a defence that’s able to force errors.

Mike Blair

“Because if you stagnate your attack and you keep playing, you’re going to lose the ball eventually.

“A big part of our game is how we can de-structure the defence, so we talk about turnover ball, we talk about creating counter-attack ball and to do that obviously you need good tacklers or a defence that’s able to force errors.

“But equally you’ve got to kick to the opposition to get them to kick back to you so that you find the unstructured defences as well.

“That ability to move the ball is something that is traditionally big amongst the New Zealand attack because there’re so many good individuals.”

Mike Blair
Dave Rennie has brought in Mike Blair to sort out New Zealand’s attack but he has yet to show his hand (Photo Ramsey Cardy/Getty Images)

The mention of a structured kicking game being a big part of the plan gives a clue as to what they are looking for at numbers nine, 10 and 12.

And the talk of wanting to counterattack well is an insight into how the All Blacks pick their back three, but it’s not clear yet what sort of skill-sets Rennie will see as paramount for his preferred centre to possess.

Whatever he’s thinking, it seems obvious that the likely answers are Tupaea and Proctor – and that the All Blacks need to give them the majority of game time at centre in July and see which one best facilitates the new attack plan.

So too will their defensive work come under scrutiny, but the attack will have the higher weighting as this is the area of the game where the All Blacks have got the greatest upside.

But above all else, Rennie just needs to be consistent and aligned with his selections and by the World Cup he should have the answer that Robertson never managed to find.

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Blackmania 25 days ago

Rieko finished the season well with Leinster, playing in his best position at 13. He managed to keep Ringrose on the bench, which is a positive sign for him. I’m not sure whether Rennie will select him or give him a rest with the upcoming tour to South Africa in mind.


As things stand, Fineanganofo is expected to be included in the squad.

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johnz 28 days ago

I don't see confidence at all, confident people don't feel the need to project it. I guess we admire different values in people. Nothing wrong with that, if we all agreed it would be boring.

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JS 29 days ago

and there we finally have it….Reikos toxic individualism. Where you see toxic whatevs I see self-confidence and swagger backed up by 90 tests wearing the silver fern.


Question? Were you ok with Dan Carters overt self-promotion? or he’s different?

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johnz 29 days ago

Well at least we agree on something, as I’ve already acknowledged; Reiko is an excellent defender. World class even.


In reality - this debate was never a good hearted from the beginning, because you accused me of being a hater right of the bat. Perhaps that’s the reason good hearted debates break down when you get involved? Perhaps you hate the opinions of others that don’t align with yours so you choose to attack and label them?


Besides - I don’t see attitude and performance as mutually exclusive. How you do anything is how you do everything. And one man’s toxic individualism affects the culture of the whole team. As standards quietly erode (as in my “hateful” opinion they have with AB’s culture), performance does too.


Everything affects everything.


Anyway I wish your Chiefs good luck - but not too much. Should be a cracking game, whatever the outcome.

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JS 29 days ago

It invalidates considered insight/opinion to just ‘hate’ as that tempers your lens of him even if dont want to admit it. Have had many many (what starts out as) good hearted debates over Reiko with many and after I present facts that counter their initial arguments they then admit he just dont like how he carries himself with his bravado and socials…. Personally I dont have an opinion on these and btw I am a Chiefs fan but as an AB’s fan too he is our best 13 - hands down.


Watch back how he has sat Eben Esterbeth and the English lock on their backsides metres from the tryline thinking they can run through him. Watch how his speed covers his and his outside channel from decoys and backdoor ‘plays’. Watch how in the Toulon game he chased back his winger who he cancelled from behind to win that game with his tackle. I’m watching right now at Leinster how Prendergasts short pass ‘threat’ to Reiko is attracting 2-3 defenders and creating space for Sam to ghost through gaps untouched or Huge Keenan to do the same.

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johnz 29 days ago

The hater comes from you having an opinion on how Reiko carries himself


Sums it up really - I have an opinion, so I must be a hater. Oh dear - what else would people write about on here if they weren’t alowed to have an opinions?

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RD 31 days ago

I used to watch Smoking Joe play centre for about 60mins before his ongoing respiratory problems kicked in and then on comes Frank Bunce. Sadly, both were better than any centre playing currently. Foketi is shaping up well but like so many Chiefs backs he gets snapped up before the AB selectors wake up. Instead we have had a procession of Crusader draft horses and converted fullbacks blocking up / handbraking the backline attack.

Hopefully Dave and co will be a bit smarter?

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JW 29 days ago

Was just going through Counties shield defence record and his boy was playing that for them, a pretty good center too I recall. But that was in the days where Bundee had to go overseas and centers were even more stacked at that time that 2nd5. He had to go off to Japan of course but I reckon with a full provincial pro setup he could easily have gone on to be as good as his dad.

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Jmann 31 days ago

Roigard-Love-J Barrett. Must be shoe-ins. Worth starting with Proctor and having Tupaea on the Bench. FB and Wings really pick themselves. It’d be nice if NZRFU can actually swipe Fineanganofo of the poms too. Nice little 2-fingered salute to the chequebook teams of the NH.


The talent is there and the coaching seems to have finally sorted itself out. If they click they will soon be back at #1

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SC 29 days ago

Neither Barrett and Proctor can dominate the gainline. They are a terrible combination at test level. One midfielder has to be able to dominate collusions and own the gainline.

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JW 31 days ago

Again, there is a long list of reasons why he failed to achieve these two key goals, and in the case of the latter, the chief problem was his inability to identify, develop and stick with any one centre.

It was a position which Robertson just couldn’t work out who and what he wanted. It was never clear if he wanted an out-and-out distributor and facilitator, or a smash and bash off-loader.

Did he want strike power and speed, or was he after a genuine play-maker who could make good tactical decisions?

It was impossible to tell what he wanted because his selections were never consistent or seemingly linked to the attack plan.

Incorrect. What have you been doing the last couple of years Paul?


Going from Rieko to Proctor, could not have more of a clear and concise picture for you to see. You obviously haven’t been paying attention.

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SC 31 days ago

Fainga’aunuku’s best position would be 12.


It is far easier to defend at 12 in the middle of the park with far less space and defensive decisions to make. Just straight up tackles, not unlike loose forwards.


Fainga’anuka clearly is the most powerful ball carrying back in NZ rugby with a very good off load and surprisingly good passing game.


I’m not suggesting he should start at 12, Jordie will start at 12 and Tupaea at 13. But having Fainga’anuka playing 12 the last 30 minutes of a test against a tiring opponent would be devastating.


Proctor will challenge Tupaea at 13 for the All Blacks but he simply does not have the physicality of Tupaea or Fainga’anuka to win a starting 13 jersey nor offer flexibility off the bench.

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JW 31 days ago

Yep he’s shown his best attribute is hands on the ball in a triple threat role. He probably hasn’t even done enough all over the park to warrant a squad call up in any one position, but if he was able to do that 12 and 7 for Tasman I think thats were he’d find his best form and chance.

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LondonAllBlack 31 days ago

There are a few options.


Option 1: Leicester Fainga’unuku.


Option 2: Give Caleb Clarke the number 13 jersey and tell him to step up or hush up!


Option 3: Barrett J at 12 and Tupaea at 13.


The problem with Option 3 is we then have a Fainga’anuku problem - what do we do with him?


Option 2 is the most sensible option. That way, we have room for Jordan and Fineanganofo to be on the field with Fainga’unuku on the bench to cover 13 & 7.

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Over the sideline 31 days ago

Option 4… let him develop more. Take him to SA

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JW 31 days ago

Theres a stupid amount of options.

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GL 31 days ago

Tupea and Proctor are the obvious choices at 13 and then ALB and maybe Haviili

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Over the sideline 31 days ago

QT is the best 12 in NZ SR. If this season doesn’t get him start time at 12 he needs to leave for OS.

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JW 31 days ago

LOL a jordie havili combination will be even more same same than Jorde/Proctor!

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GL 31 days ago

And Ioane, except for the last two weeks, has been a disappointment in Ireland and was a disappointmen for the ABs for 2 seasons, so hope he is not selected

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JW 31 days ago

Last two weeks? Those Jackman quotes are months old. As I understand it the B team (he was used whenever Ringrose was rested) has been mud all year (well from results the whole club really), it’s certainly not the team we wanted our ABs to be going into. That said, what does it matter he’s only hitting stride recently? Imo him and ALB will have to prove it but no doubt they’ll be given some opportunity.


Also 2024 Rieko was different to 2023 Rieko for you?

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GL 31 days ago

But DMac has outplayed Love every week that he played…but of course Love has outplayed BB (not so hard to do nowadays)

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JW 31 days ago

You mean one game? or all year? Sucks Love looks to have a niggle right now.

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unknown 32 days ago

FOKETI !

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johnz 32 days ago

Fainga'anuku looks certain to be a wasted talent. The best AB attacking periods last season came when he was in the centers. He offers something different, something that’s been missing for a long time in the AB’s midfield. Linebreaking ability, power, and a freakish ability to free up his outsides.


LF was breaking the line every second carry last season. That’s ridiculous.


Proctor and J Barrett don’t come close, they’re essentially both link men - which means together they lack ballance at test level. Their partnership works fine at SR level where there’s more space to get the ball wide. But in the in your face nature of test rugby, they look a bit placid.


The press are loving the Fainga'anuku experiment at 7, but I think it’s a bloody disaster. The Crusaders have invested the playing minutes in two centers about to jump ship from NZ rugby - while the national interests would have been better served giving Fainga'anuku a run in the 13 jersey to iron out his deficiencies. And Enor looked terrible in yesterday’s semi.


As it turns out, Fainga'anuku’s now neither here nor there. He’s no international 7. Rennie sees him as a wing because there’s been scant evidence this season to judge him otherwise. But it’s the middle of the park where he’s most dangerous.


It’s a crying shame and a waste of a unique talent - nobody else has skills that come close.


The best bet now will be Tupaea, he’s got some of the power that Fainga’anuku has, so offers a better balance to Jordie - who strikes little fear into any world class center.


It’s a shame - especially given how much time NZR invested into Ioane’s success. Now they chop and change 13s like changing nappies on a baby. Whoever they choose, they need to stick with them.

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JW 31 days ago

Proctor and J Barrett don’t come close, they’re essentially both link men - which means together they lack ballance at test level.

Agreed, previously I had TT at 12 to break that up, but now with LFs form at 7 the last month, I’d have him a higher chance at 12 than TT. QT is obviously the leader of the pack thier.


Who was it for Crusaders, Roberts? looking like a wider version of Higgins, or following in Proctors vein, as the next best young center? Who else is there now these guys at their peak havent been chosen and are leaving? Rona, Paul, Carter, Taele? Carter maybe of those could ahve All Black class written over them, but I don’t see the next Rieko or stable option to partner a playmaking 12 coming through. Traditionally the Nonu type 12 is embedded into the psyche and Barrett doesn’t want to be that guy, so Rennie needs to look past him as the option there and go with the synergy NZ rugby gives.


What has Goodhue being playing in France?

As it turns out, Fainga'anuku’s now neither here nor there. He’s no international 7. Rennie sees him as a wing because there’s been scant evidence this season to judge him otherwise. But it’s the middle of the park where he’s most dangerous.

Agreed, I don’t pick him in my 34. He boosted Crusaders form, but Penney should have switched him into 12 after the first four games, getting a viable fullback on the field.

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