Unpacking a potential 36-man England squad to tour South Africa
Not only does Eddie Jones have his work cut out ending England’s recent losing streak and delivering a series win in South Africa this summer, he also faces the tough task of selecting that squad and dealing with the contrasting demands of trying to beat the Springboks a year out from the Rugby World Cup.
Before England’s disappointing 2018 Six Nations, it was easy to call for a rested squad to head out to South Africa, with many key contributors from the last two years given a full offseason in what will be the last opportunity for an extended break from rugby ahead of the RWC.
But with England’s RWC train facing severe delays, if not quite derailed, over the last few months, there’s a clear onus to get back to winning ways and for Jones to reinvigorate some of his more trusted lieutenants with time running out before they head to Japan.
With just one more round of Aviva Premiership fixtures and then the finals of both European and domestic rugby to go, we have put together a prospective England touring squad that includes plenty of tough cuts and surprise inclusions.
* denotes apprentice players
Loosehead Props
In: Joe Marler, Ellis Genge and Alec Hepburn
Out: Mako Vunipola and Beno Obano
It’s not been a great season for Marler but he was a big part of England’s early success under Jones and the dynamic of having him soften up teams and then Vunipola bring his impact off the bench worked well. This is an opportunity for him to show that his Harlequins form is not who he is as a player and then the impressive and livewire Genge can come off the bench and have a similar impact to the one Vunipola had in Jones’ first season.
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As for Hepburn, he has been consistently effective for Exeter this season and just wins out over Obano due to his conditioning, but the Bath loosehead is right there on the cusp. English rugby has a frustrating tendency to focus on what a player can’t do rather than what he can do and that does hurt Obano, but the stamina issue is one that is hard to ignore at Test level. If he keeps working hard, his time will come.
No Vunipola? Before you call for the nurses, Vunipola has played an extraordinary amount of rugby over the last 18 months. He has stayed almost completely injury free and has been a cornerstone of both England’s and Saracens’ campaigns.
Give him the summer off. Let that body recuperate, let him clear his mind of rugby and then come back refreshed and hungry heading into a RWC season.
Hookers
In: Jamie George, Luke Cowan-Dickie, Tom Dunn and Tadgh McElroy*
Out: Tommy Taylor and Jack Singleton
With Dylan Hartley injured, this is the longer audition George needs for the starting spot, not to mention the mouth-watering challenge that opposite number Malcolm Marx provides. Cowan-Dickie has been on the outside of the favoured Hartley-George one-two punch for Jones, but he has made great strides in the last two seasons, improving his set-piece game and bringing it up to par with the influence he has in the loose.
Dunn comes in as the third hooker as reward for his consistency in a very inconsistent Bath side and that gives him the edge over Singleton and Taylor, who is freshly back from injury and needs more rugby under his belt.
McElroy arrived at Saracens last year and is English-qualified, not to mention highly thought of by both his former Leinster and Ireland U20 coaches, as well as the Saracens management. If he’s open to an apprentice role, why not bring him in? With Schalk Brits retiring and both George and Christopher Tolofua internationals, we could see a lot of McElroy next season.
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Tighthead Props
In: Kyle Sinckler, Harry Williams and Jake Cooper-Woolley
Out: Dan Cole and Paul Hill
Like Vunipola, Cole is a victim of his durability here, having played an incredible amount of rugby in recent times and well in need of a full offseason before going into the next campaign.
Sinckler gets his opportunity to prove he’s a starting international tighthead and that, like Marler, his form for Quins is not defining of him as a player. Hard surfaces in South Africa, abrasive opponents and a focus on physical scrummagers, this tour feels like a good test of where Sinckler is in his development.
Williams faces competition for the back-up spot from the in-form Cooper-Woolley, with the Wasps tighthead enjoying a strong end to the season, just seeing him edge out Paul Hill, who has looked rejuvenated at Northampton in the past few weeks.
A lack of tighthead depth is possibly a concern for Jones, who enjoys enviable riches in most other positions.
Locks
In: Maro Itoje, Joe Launchbury, Charlie Ewels and Nick Isiekwe
Out: Will Spencer and Callum Green
Having rested both Vunipola and Cole, time for a bit of consistency with Itoje and Launchbury both included. Neither of the duo have played to their absolute best this season, but they haven’t played badly, either, and their selections are tempered by the inclusion of the dynamic and in-form Isiekwe.
It’s a second-row packed with lineout options, something that is not only key to beating South Africa, but also helping George, Cowan-Dickie and co, as they look to make an impression in Hartley’s absence, with the England captain’s accurate lineout work amongst the chief factors behind England’s impressive 2015-2017 period.
Ewels makes the cut due to injuries to both Courtney Lawes and George Kruis, not to mention finishing the season strongly with Bath, but Spencer is dealing with some injury problems currently and that is not the springboard he needs to go into a summer of rugby with England.
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On Green, who has been excellent for Newcastle Falcons this season, there is a concern he doesn’t have the height or reach to be the weapon in the lineout at Test level that he is in the Premiership, but he is certainly banging on the door.
Flankers
In: Brad Shields, Don Armand, Ben Curry, Tom Curry, Sam Simmonds and Will Evans*
Out: Chris Robshaw, Sam Underhill and James Haskell
It may seem reactionary and overkill to take neither Robshaw nor Haskell to South Africa, but Robshaw is a workhorse who has played plenty of rugby and could use a break, whilst Haskell may not be playing his rugby in England next season and therefore no longer eligible for selection after the summer.
In Armand you have an in-form back-rower who can help get England on the front-foot and Shields brings plenty of the same, as well as giving him his first experience of the England environment, one it seems he has been identified as being a key part of moving forward. If you don’t select him now, his first touring experience with England, assuming he’s picked, will be the RWC.
The Curry twins vs the du Preez twins is worth the price of admission alone, but they also give England something that they were missing in the Six Nations. Ben is very adept over the ball and brings that skill-set at the contact area, whilst Tom is a physical tacker with a great engine and will go a long way to making up for the absence of Robshaw on the field.
Simmonds is an interesting option on the flank and one that could prosper without the need for him to constantly generate front-foot ball, thanks to the returning Billy Vunipola.
As for Underhill, he’s had some injury problems this season and when they are concussion-related, it’s particularly worrying. Take the summer, rest up and come back refreshed for 2018/19. Everyone is aware of the talent he brings, he won’t be forgotten because of one summer tour being missed.
Number 8s
In: Billy Vunipola and Zach Mercer
Out: Nathan Hughes
Hughes is slated to return from injury around the beginning of the tour but why rush him back into rugby when you have Vunipola and Mercer available?
Vunipola made his comeback for Saracens at the weekend and it is hard to overestimate just how much England have missed him this season. His carrying ability has been the obvious and eye-catching loss but it’s also his leadership, his work at the contact area and his work off the base of the scrum. Plug him back in and you’ll see the benefits the other 14 players on the pitch reap as a result.
The worry, though, is how much England rely on him. Finding another player that can fulfil that role is key if England want to be a threat at the RWC and that could well be Mercer.
He doesn’t pack the same punch in his carries, but he is almost as dangerous, as he constantly looks to shift the point of contact, making him a nightmare to bring down in contact. He is rarely stopped on the gain-line and he draws multiple defenders every time he gets his hands on the ball. Both Hughes and Simmonds have plenty of positive impact on the pitch when they are at eight, but Mercer could outstrip them both with his offensive threat, not to mention his potential at the lineout.
Of course, this is all hypothetical until Mercer gets a crack at showing he can replicate his Premiership ability at international level, so give it to him this summer.
Scrum-halves
In: Ben Youngs, Ben Spencer and Ben Vellacott*
Out: Danny Care, Richard Wigglesworth and Dan Robson
For whatever reason, Jones doesn’t pick Robson. He is a gifted and exciting rugby player, but Jones sees something in him that he doesn’t think translates to international rugby. It wouldn’t make a lot of sense to pick him here if we don’t think Jones is going to show faith in him.
Instead, Spencer, a player who Jones is an admirer of, comes in and offers not only control in a starting scrum-half role, but also impact against tired defences. He can take on that Care, who gets a summer off, role in the 23. It is a role which Wigglesworth, for all his positives, is not best-suited to performing.
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Getting Youngs back in the nine jersey makes sense given how much England missed him during the Six Nations.
As he is with the flanks, Jones seems to be particularly narrow in his view of what he wants at nine and that’s been clear in his selections of the past two years, so just take the two scrum-halves. Let Youngs inject his control back into the team and let Spencer get some valuable minutes, as England try to create a scrum-half hierarchy, rather than just the one-two punch that existed up until now.
Fly-halves
In: Owen Farrell, George Ford and Marcus Smith
Out: Danny Cipriani
It may be time to hand the fly-half keys, full-time, over to Farrell, where he can have the maximum possible influence on a game.
A summer off for Ford wouldn’t be the worst thing but by having both he and Farrell in the squad, as well as Smith, it allows for England to carry on playing with dual-playmakers at the 10-12 axis if they so wish.
An interesting combination would be Smith at 10 and Farrell at 12, with the veteran providing an invaluable pressure valve to the youngster, not to mention being two players who have rugby brains which operate at a speed higher than most others. It’s a chemistry that Ford and Farrell have used to advantageous effect previously – especially off the back of a pack boasting Billy Vunipola – and it could kick on to an even higher level with Smith at 10.
Cipriani is a bit of an inevitable “out” at this point, with Jones having seemingly made his mind up on the fly-half already and with a move to France potentially looming, that doesn’t look set to change this summer.
Centres
In: Manu Tuilagi, Ben Te’o, Joe Marchant, Cam Redpath and Henry Slade
Out: Alex Lozowski, Piers Francis and Henry Trinder
The ability of Farrell to play in the centres allows England a fair amount of freedom in their centre selections but finding carriers that can break the gain-line at will and draw defenders is key for Jones, whose midfield has struggled in that area.
Tuilagi and Te’o are the obvious options here and both are hopefully over the worst of their recent injury problems, whilst Marchant and Slade provide more elusive options at 13. Jonathan Joseph is likely to miss the tour with ankle surgery and this creates an opportunity for both Marchant and Slade to really throw their hats into that position battle ahead of next season.
Lozowski’s versatility is frustrating to lose but it also hampers him a little, as there will be very few people sure of where his best position for England is. Is it at 10, in the centres or as a counter-attacking and playmaking full-back?
Francis hasn’t had the best season for Northampton and though Trinder has looked back with a vengeance after a tough run with injuries, 13 is an extremely competitive position for England at the moment.
On Redpath and his inclusion as a non-apprentice, cap him.
Cap him, Eddie.
Seriously, cap him.
Don’t tell us we didn’t warn you.
Wings
In: Jack Nowell, Jonny May, Joe Cokanasiga and Nathan Earle
Out: Elliot Daly, Marland Yarde and Denny Solomona
Nowell is back from injury, he’s in good form and he also covers outside centre and full-back. He would seem a sure-fire pick here, as does May, who has become one of Jones’ favoured options this season. The former brings the footwork and the latter brings the speed that should shine on the dry South African pitches.
Cokanasiga and Earle are less experienced operators but two who have clearly been identified by Jones and England as future contributors. Cokanasiga is learning how to use his size and power at senior level more proficiently now than he did earlier in the season and you are starting to see his potential, even in an Irish side that have struggled for most of the season. Like Nowell and May, Earle has speed and footwork attributes which are tailormade for South Africa and this could well be his coming out party at international level.
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Daly is another player who could use the summer off. His class and ability at international level is already established and he is not going to fall out of England’s plans simply for not being involved this summer. With him also picking up a knock for Wasps at the weekend, play it safe and let him have a full offseason.
Yarde and Solomona are both playing well this season and Steve Diamond has cut through the off-field issues and maximised their on-field ability, but there are red flags there that England know about and may prompt Jones to be cautious before including them in the squad.
Full-backs
In: Mike Brown and Harry Mallinder
Out: Alex Goode
Unfortunately for Goode, he is another one of those players like Robson and Cipriani, whose face doesn’t seem to fit in the current England team. Is it the tendency to bounce back and run laterally? Or is it just complete faith in Brown?
Either way, it’s a tough team to crack for the Saracen.
Had Anthony Watson been fit, you could have potentially given Brown a rest and a chance to revitalise himself for 2018/19, but without Watson, England won’t want to throw someone new to the lions in South Africa, where no doubt Handre Pollard or Elton Jantjies will test England’s back three positionally with plenty of bombs and chases.
Mallinder has been involved in a couple of training camps now and is finding his feet at full-back after playing extensively at fly-half and inside centre and this will be a good learning opportunity for him. If he can become a little more reliable in one-on-one tackle situations, then he’ll quickly catapult himself up the England hierarchy and provide stern competition to Watson, Daly or whoever else is eyeing up the full-back spot after the RWC.
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I think Etene has had some good tuition, likely while at the Warriors to be a professional that helped his rugby jump, but he was certainly thrown in the deep end way too early. Should have arguably 20 less SR caps, and therefor a way better record that he does at his age, but his development would have been fast tracked by the need to satiate his signing away from league. Again, credit to him and others that he has done it so well. Easy to fall over under that pressure in the big leagues like that but he kept at it when I myself wasn’t sure he was good enough.
1 Go to commentsAwesome story. I wonder what a bigger American (SA) scene might have mean for Brex.
1 Go to comments“Johnny McNicholl and the Crusaders” save a Penney. Who has been in camp this week and showed them how to play?
5 Go to commentsSo, reports of the Crusaders’ demise / terminal decline are perhaps just - slightly - premature/exaggerated…? 🤔 Will we see a deep-dive into that by the estimable Rugbypass scribes, and maybe one or two mea culpas? Thought not.
5 Go to comments1. The Chiefs are rudderless without DMac, which enhances his AB chances 2. Chiefs pack are powderpuffs. The hard men arent there anymore 3. They had their golden title chance last yr and wont threaten this yr. Gone in second round of playoffs.
5 Go to commentsHonestly, why did you have to publish such a foolish article the day they play us? 😂
32 Go to comments> They are not standalone entities. They are linked to an amateur association which holds the FFR licence that allows the professional side to compete in the league. That’s a great rule. This looks like the chicken or egg professional scenario. How long is it going to be before the club can break even (if that is even a thing in French rugby)? If the locals aren’t into well it would be good to se them drop to amateur level (is it that far?). Hope they can reset from this level and be more practical, there will be a time when they can rebuild (if France has there setup right).
1 Go to commentsWhat about changing the ball? To something heavier and more pointed that bounces unpredictably. Not this almost round football used these days.
35 Go to commentsThis is the problem with conservative mindsets and phycology, and homogenous sports, everybody wants to be the same, use the i-win template. Athlete wise everyone has to have muscles and work at the gym to make themselves more likely to hold on that one tackle. Do those players even wonder if they are now more likely to be tackled by that player as a result of there “work”? Really though, too many questions, Jake. Is it better Jake? Yes, because you still have that rugby of ole that you talk about. Is it at the highest International level anymore? No, but you go to your club or checkout your representative side and still engage with that ‘beautiful game’. Could you also have a bit of that at the top if coaches encouraged there team to play and incentivized players like Damian McKenzie and Ange Capuozzo? Of course we could. Sadly Rugby doesn’t, or didn’t, really know what direction to go when professionalism came. Things like the state of northern pitches didn’t help. Over the last two or three decades I feel like I’ve been fortunate to have all that Jake wants. There was International quality Super Rugby to adore, then the next level below I could watch club mates, pulling 9 to 5s, take on the countries best in representative rugby. Rugby played with flair and not too much riding on the consequences. It was beautiful. That largely still exists today, but with the world of rugby not quite getting things right, the picture is now being painted in NZ that that level of rugby is not required in the “pathway” to Super Rugby or All Black rugby. You might wonder if NZR is right and the pathway shouldn’t include the ‘amateur’, but let me tell you, even though the NPC might be made up of people still having to pull 9-5s, we know these people still have dreams to get out of that, and aren’t likely to give them. They will be lost. That will put a real strain on the concept of whether “visceral thrill, derring-do and joyful abandon” type rugby will remain under the professional level here in NZ. I think at some point that can be eroded as well. If only wanting the best athlete’s at the top level wasn’t enough to lose that, shutting off the next group, or level, or rugby players from easy access to express and showcase themselves certainly will. That all comes back around to the same question of professionalism in rugby and whether it got things right, and rugby is better now. Maybe the answer is turning into a “no”?
35 Go to commentsWow, didn’t realise there was such apathy to URC in SA, or by Champions Cup teams. Just read Nick’s article on Crusaders, are Sharks a similar circumstance? I think SA rugby has been far more balanced than NZs, no?
2 Go to commentsBut here in Australia we were told Penney was another gun kiwi coach, for the Tahs…….and yet again it turned out the kiwi coach was completely useless. Another con job on Australian rugby. As was Robbie Deans, as was Dave Rennie. Both coaches dumped from NZ and promoted to Australia as our saviour. And the Tahs lap them up knowing they are second rate and knowing that under pressure when their short comings are exposed in Australia as well, that they will fall in below the largest most powerful province and choose second rate Tah players to save their jobs. As they do and exactly as Joe Schmidt will do. Gauranteed. Schmidt was dumped by NZ too. That’s why he went overseas. That why kiwi coaches take jobs in Australia, to try and prove they are not as bad as NZ thought they were. Then when they get found out they try and ingratiate themselves to NZ again by dragging Australian teams down with ridiculous selections and game plans. NZ rugby’s biggest problem is that it can’t yet transition from MCaw Cheatism. They just don’t know how to try and win on your merits. It is still always a contest to see how much cheating you can get away with. Without a cheating genius like McCaw, they are struggling. This I think is why my wise old mate in NZ thinks Robertson will struggle. The Crusaders are the nursery of McCaw Cheatism. Sean Fitzpatrick was probably the father of it. Robertson doesn’t know anything else but other countries have worked it out.
32 Go to commentsIt could be coincidental or prescient that the All Blacks most dominant period under Steve Hansen was when the Crusaders had their least successful period under Todd Blackadder and then the positions reversed when Razor took over the Crusaders.
32 Go to commentsDefinitely sound read everybodyexpects immediate results these days, I don't think any team would travel well at all having lost three of the most important game changers in the game,compiled with the massive injury list they are now carrying, good to see a different more in depth perspective of a coaches history.
3 Go to commentsSinckler is a really big loss for English rugby.
2 Go to commentsThanks Nick The loss of players to OS, injury and retirement is certainly not helping the Crusaders. Ditto the coach. IMO Penny is there to hold the fort and cop the flak until new players and a new coach come through,…and that's understood and accepted by Penny and the Crusaders hierarchy. I think though that what is happening with the Crusaders is an indicator of what is happening with the other NZ SRP teams…..and the other SRP teams for that matter. Not enough money. The money has come via the SR competition and it’s not there anymore. It's in France, Japan and England. Unless or until something is done to make SR more SELLABLE to the NZ/Australia Rugby market AND the world rugby market the $s to keep both the very best players and the next rung down won't be there. They will play away from NZ more and more. I think though that NZ will continue to produce the players and the coaches of sufficient strength for NZ to have the capacity to stay at the top. Whether they do stay at the top as an international team will depend upon whether the money flowing to SRP is somehow restored, or NZ teams play in the Japan comp, or NZ opts to pick from anywhere. As a follower of many sports I’d have to say that the organisation and promotion of Super Rugby has been for the last 20 years closest to the worst I’ve ever seen. This hasn't necessarily been caused by NZ, but it’s happened. Perhaps it can be fixed, perhaps not. The Crusaders are I think a symptom of this, not the cause
32 Go to commentsNo way. If you are trying to picture New Zealand rugby with an All Blacks mindset, there have been two factors instrumental to the decline of NZ rugby to date. Those are the horror that the Blues have become and, probably more so, the fixture that the Crusaders became. I don’t think it was healthy to have one team so dominant for so long, both for lack of proper representation of players from outside that environment and on the over reliance on players from within it. If you are another international side, like Ireland for example, sure. You can copy paste something succinct from one level to the next and experience a huge increase in standards, but ultimately you will not be maximizing it, which is what you need to perform to the level the ABs do. Added to that is the apathy that develops in the whole game as a result of one sides dominance. NZ, Super, and Championship rugby should all experience a boom as a result of things balancing out. That said, there is a lot of bad news happening in NZ rugby recently, and I’m not sure the game can be handled well enough here to postpone the always-there feeling of inevitable decline of rugby.
32 Go to commentsNo SA supporter miss Super Rugby - a product that is experiencing significant head wind in ANZ - the competition from rival codes are intense, match attendance figures are at a historical low and the negativity of commentators such as Kirwan and Wilson have accelerated the downward spiral in NZ. After the next RWC in 2027 sponsors will follow Qantas and start leaving in droves.
2 Go to commentsLike others, I am not seeing the connection between this edition of the Crusaders and the All Blacks future prospects under Razor. I think the analysis of the Crusaders attack recently is helpful because Razor and his coaching team used to be able to slot new guys in to their systems and see them succeed. Several of Razor’s coaches are still there so it would be surprising if the current attack and set piece has been overhauled to a great extent - but based on that analysis, it may have been. Whether it is too many new guys due to injuries or retirement or a failure of current Crusaders systems is the main question to be answered imo. It doesn’t seem relevant for the ABs.
32 Go to commentsharry potter is set in stone. he creates stability and finishes well. exactly what schmidt likes. he’s the ben smith of australian rugby. i think it could quite easily be potter toole and kellaway for the foreseeable future.
5 Go to commentsThis is short sighted from Clayton if you ask me, smacks of too much preseason planning and no adaptability. What if DMac is out for a must win match, are they still only going to bring their best first five and playmaker on late in the game? Trusting the game to someone who wasn’t even part of planning (they would have had Trask pinned in as Jacomb preseason). Perhaps if the Crusaders were better they would not have done this, but either way imo you take this opportunity to play a guy you might need starting in a final rather than having their 12th game getting comfortable coming off the bench.
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