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Damning Rugby Pod verdict: 'Genge looked like he wasn't interested'

Ellis Genge grapples with Leicester's James Cronin (Photo by Marc Atkins/Getty Images)

Rugby Pod co-host Andy Goode believes the abject performance last Saturday by Ellis Genge on his return to his old club Leicester was a symptom of deeper problems at Bristol that could ultimately lead to the sacking of director of rugby Pat Lam. The Bears had arrived at Mattioli Woods Welford Road on the back of a four-game winning streak that had lifted them out of the doldrums near the foot of the Gallagher Premiership table.

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However, having thrived during the league’s Six Nations period, they struggled in the first round since the completion of that championship and were blown away in the second half at Leicester, losing 46-24.

Bristol had just gone 17-15 in front when Genge, the England round four skipper versus France, was introduced off the bench for Yann Thomas but they were eclipsed by four tries to one during his half-hour-plus stint on the pitch.

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Retired England out-half Goode took a dim view of what he saw regarding Genge and claimed it was symptomatic of dressing room unrest that could jeopardise the Bristol stewardship of Lam – even though he is tied to a multi-year deal at the Ashton Gate club.

The seventh-place Bristol are 10 points off fourth with just three matches remaining, leaving them unlikely to make the playoffs for the second season in succession since topping the regular-season table in 2020/21 and then imploding in the semi-finals after leading Harlequins 28-0.

Alleged dressing room rumblings are, according to Goode, now taking their toll, a situation reflected in how Genge didn’t perform last weekend for Bristol on his first return to Welford Road since skippering Leicester to Premiership glory last June at Twickenham. “We need to talk about Genge,” began Goode on the latest episode of the show he co-hosts with Jim Hamilton, a former Leicester teammate. “I watched him thinking this will be juicy.

“Leicester’s ex-captain coming back, he is a Bristol boy, first time back at Welford Road and I have been there, I played at Leicester for 10 years and the first time I ever came back to Welford Road as an away player at the end of my 10-year tenure I got sent off because I booted Tom Croft in the face – the emotions get hold of you.

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“So, Ellis Genge is coming on and I’m thinking he is going to do something. He is going to get angry; he is going to be aggressive at the breakdown, he is going to try and dominate the scrum. He got hosed at scrum time because as soon as he came on, Richard Wigglesworth brought Dan Cole on. Cole absolutely shoved his [Genge’s] head up his own arse. Genge looked like he wasn’t interested. He was basically patting all the Leicester lads on the back as if he was still a Leicester player but in a Bristol jersey.

“The only time he got angry at the end of the game was when Leicester scored a try right at the death and James Cronin is giving him some stick and then they start headbutting and I think there were fingers around the eye area and he got a bit angry towards the end but really surprised. It was like he wasn’t bothered – and I think that is the same for a few of the Bristol boys.

“I think there is a big issue there at Bristol around the empathy and the team spirit within the squad and there is some sort of breakdown there. Yes, they have won a few games recently, but we have said it for a while, there is something not right there, and the fact that Pat Lam is on a seven-year contract – it’s only down to six years now – I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a big change.

“Just rumblings and there are a lot of players leaving. Bristol have spent all this cash, unbelievable squad, but the hangover of losing that semi a few years ago when they were top of the league, got turned over by Quins when they were 28-nil up or something, they haven’t recovered from that. There is a bit of ill-feeling in the squad for various different reasons and if you are Steve Lansdown putting loads of cash in and now you are losing (Semi) Radradra, (Charles) Piutau, there is a lot of other players leaving as well, I don’t know. Big questions.”

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Hamilton added: “When you look at Bristol, they are now seventh, they should be a top-four side with the players that they have got. You have got Ellis Genge, England captain/vice-captain. You have got Semi Radradra, one of the best players in the league albeit he was injured at the beginning of the season.

“You have got Charles Piutau, a million-pound player. Kyle Sinckler at tighthead, you’ve got (Steven) Lautua in the back row as well just to name a few and you’re thinking they are not going to make the top four at the end of the Premiership season. They have underachieved this year and obviously last year considering they were semi-finalists before that.”

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Will Jordan was playmaking superbly to assist the youngster’s points tally, but it was all individual brilliance in the 53rd minute when Springer tiptoed down the sideline before collecting his own chip kick and outpacing the final two defenders to score under the posts.

After pre-season I said that I wanted Springer to cement the starting jersey, and that (well I’ve not no idea exactly which sides they play) another new wing recruit, Kunawave, would replace Reece as the Fijian Flyer in the team by season end. Reece might be making that tough, but unfortunately it looks like there wasn’t a full squad spot for the young fella and he has since made his AB7s debut instead. Watch this space though as he and Saifoloi look to have the X factor👍


That Jordan pass to Springer aside it was otherwise a very lackluster game for him as he looks to be struggling with processing his option taking in this new style he’s trying. Still have to think a man of that talent and ingenuity is going to make it click sooner or later though!

t’s a congested position, and after Ennor shot down talk of him being swept up by a Top 14 outfit this week, it looks as if the Crusaders have some selection headaches to solve in the coming weeks.

That’s great news. I can’t remember if it was because he actually made his return in pre-season or not but for some reason I was liking how Ennor looked like he might be providing the right options for Saders and even ABs when back. Very pleased to see him fit straight in though there was plenty of space on offer but he almost looked as if he was more dangerous with no space. Could be the long looked for option at 13?

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JW 4 hours ago
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Chiefs were in the driver’s seat for most of Saturday night’s fixture in the Tron

I don’t know about that. The majority of stats all favour the Blues.

Referee Ben O’Keeffe did show the rising star a yellow card during the second half after a series of infringements from the Blues, but that shouldn’t take away too much from the main point here. Taele looks at home with the Blues in Super Rugby Pacific.

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He’s leaving Hamish (don’t know how you missed that), it’s impossible to make a statement for AB selection, and that also be well out of his mind.


Watching him in Japan he looked to be struggling as much of his team. Which is often how I think his contributions have depended, how well he fits in with the team. He’s a very unique player and I don’t think the Chiefs have anywhere near the right momentum and structure to unlock Shaun’s strengths. In saying that I thought he played well and that pass showed he’s in a great headspace, you might also be overplaying Corey’s contribution, which from the weekend would be of greatest value if he was Lams midfield replacement imo. I’d like Forbes to return this weekend and don’t think Corey did enough to take that opportunity away from him.

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“We want jeopardy in our competition, right? We want ladder movement. We don’t want teams to stay in the same ladder position that they were in last year.

You need promotion relegation then. You cannot always rely on 4 teams being the right number for Australia, it could mean that they are too strong in future. Or that Fijian Drua doesn’t always has the players to knock of the best.

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Have you used you’re own license for viewing “feels rather than facts” here Hamish?


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