Australian Conference Pre-Season Odds: Title Contenders and Long-Term Losers
This year’s Super Rugby is confusing at the best of times. There are two Groups, one from Australasia and another from Africa, an extremely convoluted schedule, a new team that’s pretty much the Argentinian national team, a Japanese side that holds its home games in Singapore, and an inexplicable lack of live animal mascots.
A full explainer is here, but to get your bearings on the competition, the main thing to focus on is the conferences. There are four of them – Australia, New Zealand, Africa 1, and Africa 2 – and the winner of each will be rewarded with home field advantage in the quarter-finals. For our pre-season odds, we decided to rank the teams in those conferences by how good they’re going to be, and where they’re likely to end up at the end of the season.
Australian Division
Brumbies
TAB odds $8 to win competition, equal 3rd favourite
The Brumbies win few points for style but they win plenty of games by doing the little things better than their opponents. While they have lost a few 2015 players, those loses are nothing like as heavy as many other teams are trying to deal with, which means the Brumbies start in better shape than most. They’re hard to beat at home – a trait that carried the early Canberra teams deep into the competition each year – and occasionally capable of lighting teams up on the road. Christian Leali’ifano’s form with the boot may be important; after a big 2014 he fell away markedly last year and those missed kicks hurt at times. The Brumbies biggest problem might be getting that top slot in the Australian conference; gaining it will help their overall chances no end.
After 17 weeks the Brumbies will be: Preparing for a playoff game, probably away from home.
Reds
TAB odds $41 to win competition, 13th favourite
When the Reds imploded a few years back, they did it in style and have never recovered since. Last year was a shambles in Brisbane and environs, with a terrible on-field record made worse by a disciplinary melt-down and then the Karmichael Hunt circus topping things off. It shows how desperate the Reds are that Hunt is still there; most teams would have terminated his contract on the spot. All the Reds forwards got old together, and now a large bunch have left together, so there is a green look about the pack. There are plenty of non-tacklers in the backline as well, so the number of problems facing Richard Graham, who managed to do what many of his players couldn’t and go round for another year, has not diminished. The Reds don’t even have the Suncorp factor any more – they’re as bad there as anywhere else these days. Not a team to interest punters, the Reds will be an outfit its opponents eye up for four or five points each week.
After 17 weeks the Reds will be: Wondering if 2011 was only a dream. It won’t be a new feeling.
Force
TAB odds $101 to win competition, equal 15th favourite
The Force’s 100-1 starting price may be long odds, but it’s a fair assessment of a team that has not reached the playoffs at any time in its ten-year Super rugby history. The Force has enjoyed a couple of decent seasons, including a longer than expected playoff challenge a couple of years back, but has done it without a monster pack or many backs with game-breaking qualities. Goal-kicking is another perennial problem and it is hoped the acquisition of former Stormer Peter Grant may fix it, although his last foray into Super rugby was marked by as many misses as hits. The Force will, as ever, be a trap for the unwary, especially at Perth, and as ever they will end their season when the round-robin is done in week 17.
After 17 weeks the Force will be: At home, watching on the telly. Again.
Rebels
TAB odds $61 to win competition, 14th favourite
The Rebels are slowly getting better, but they still haven’t managed to threaten the playoffs and even an eight-team post-season won’t help them. They will be third-best in Australia at best, but the New Zealand sides are all better and will squeeze them out of the reckoning. The Rebels have never been a high-scoring team and the defence is occasionally good – mostly at home – so they’re one of those pesky sides that becomes more dangerous the longer it hangs around in a tight game. Goal-kicking can be an issue, although Mike Harris has days when he can’t miss, but overall the Rebels will be happy finish clear of fifth in the Aussie conference. That said, they are by no means the worst team in the competition and won’t get thumped too often.
After 17 weeks the Rebels will be: Done and dusted.
Waratahs
TAB odds $8 to win competition, equal 3rd favourite
Although they have lost a great deal of talent and experience to post-World Cup pension fund competitions, the Waratahs are still a decent side and better than most. Even though the pack was aging together, they haven’t lost as many as might have been the case but the big gaps are on the wings, where a great deal of strike power has gone. Perhaps the guy who will be missed most is Adam Ashley-Cooper, who always seemed to be at his best on the big occasions. The Waratahs have a few issues, not least of which will be an expectant press that possibly may lose its perspective from time to time, and a few teams that watched the Highlanders win the semi last year will have picked up an idea or two. No matter, the Waratahs will still qualify for the last stages easily enough but I would have them winning the whole thing in the file marked ‘Surprise’.
After 17 weeks the Waratahs will be: The best Aussie team, and difficult to beat at home. They’ll be a title threat.
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We had during the week twilight footy, twilight cricket, tw golf plus there was the athletics club. Then the weekend was rugby 15s plus the net ball, really busy club scene back then but so much has changed and rugby has suffered. And it was all about changing lifestyles.
6 Go to commentsIn the 70s and 80s my club ran 5 Senior sides plus a Vets. Now it is 2 sides with an occasional 3rd team. Players have difficulty getitng to training now, not sure why and the commitment is not there. It seems to me more a problem of people applying themselves and not expecting to turn up and play whenever they want to.
6 Go to commentsROG’s contract is until 2027. The conversation about a successor to Galthie after RWC 2027 may be starting now. We can infer that Galthie’s reign stops then. He is throwing the Irish Coaching Job angle in because he is Irish. The next Irish coach MUST be Leo Cullen. As well as being the best coach available, coaching the vast majority of Irish Internationals week in week out, he has shown incredible skill at recruiting the best coaching staff for the job in hand. That was a failing in France. Cullen is a shrewd guy and if there is a need for foreign coaches underneath him he won’t hesitate. Rightly so. Ireland does need to start to bring Irish coaches through. Not just at the professional level but we need to train coaches to man new pathways for developing kids from schools/clubs up through the divisions.
7 Go to commentsNo Islam says it must rule where it stands Thus it is to be deleted from this planet Earth
18 Go to commentsThis team probably does not beat the ABs sadly Not sure if BPA will be available given his signing for Force but has to enter consideration. Very strong possibility of getting schooled by the AB props. Advantage AB. Rodda/Skelton would be a tasty locking combination - would love to see how they get on. Advantage Wallabies. Backrow a risk of getting out hustled and outmuscled by ABs. Will be interesting to see if the Blues feast on the Reds this weekend the way they did the Brumbies we are in big trouble at the breakdown. Great energy, running and defence but goalkicking/general kicking/passing quality in the halves bothers me enormously. SA may have won the World Cup for a lot of the tournament without a recognised goalkicker but Pollard in the final made a difference IMO. Injuries and retirements leave AB stocks a bit lighter but still stronger. 12 and 13 ABs shade it (Barret > Paisami, Ione = Ikitau, arguably) Interesting clash of styles on the wings - Corey Toole running around Caleb Clark and Caleb running over the top of Toole. Reece vs Koro probably the reverse. Pretty even IMO. 15s Kelleway = Love See advantage to ABs man for man, but we are not obviously getting slaughtered anywhere which makes a nice change. Think talent wise we are pretty even and if our cohesion and teamwork is better than the ABs then its just about doable.
11 Go to commentsCompletely agree. More friday night games would be a hit. RFU to make sure every club has a floodlit pitch. Club opens again Saturday to welcome touch / tag. Minis and youths on Sunday
6 Go to comments1.97m and 105Kg? Proportionately, probably skinnier than me at 1.82 and 82kilos. He won’t survive against the big guys at that weight.
55 Go to commentsThe value he brought to the crusaders as an assistant was equal to what he got out of being there. He reflected not only on the team culture but also the credit he attributed to the rugby community. Such experience shouldn’t be overlooked.
7 Go to commentsGood luck Aussie
11 Go to commentssmith at 9 / mounga 10 / laumape 12 / fainganuku 14
55 Go to commentsBar the injuries, it’s pretty much their top team …
2 Go to commentsDon’t disagree with much of this but it appears you forgot Rodda and Beale, who started at the Force on the weekend.
11 Go to commentsExcept for the injured Zach Gallagher this would be Saders best forward pack for the season. Blackadder needs to stay at 7, for all of Christies tackling he is not dominant and offers very little else. McNicholfullback is maybe a good option, Fihaki not really upto it, there was a reason Burke played there last year. Maybe Havilli to 2nd five McLeod to wing. Need a strong winger on 1 side to compliment Reece
1 Go to commentsTo me TJ is clearly the best 9 in the competition right now but he's also a proven player off the bench, there's few playmaking players who can come off the bench as calm and settled as he is, Beauden can, TJ can and I doubt any of the scrumhalves in contention can, if they want to experiment with new 9s I want him on the bench ready to step in if they crumble under the pressure. The Boks put their best front row on the bench, I'd like to see us take a similar approach, the Hurricanes have been doing similar things with players like Kirifi.
55 Go to commentsROG has better chance to win a WC if he starts training and make himself eligible as a player. He won’t make the Ireland squad but I reckon he may get close with Namibia (needs to improve his Afrikaans) or Portugal. Both sides had 1000:1 odds to win the RWC in 2023 which is an improvement on ROG’s odds of winning a RWC as a coach. Unlike Top 14 teams, national teams can’t go shopping and buy the best players - you work with the available talent pool and turn them into world beaters.
7 Go to commentsthat backline nope that backline is terrible why would you have sevu Reece when he’s not even top 5 wingers in the comp why have Blackadder when there’s better players no Scott barret isn’t an automatic the guy is more of a liability than anything why have him there when you have samipeni who’s far far better
55 Go to commentsAh, good to find you Nick. Agree with everything about Cale. So much to like about his game
55 Go to commentsNot too bad. Questions at 6, lock and HB for me. The ABs will be a lot stronger once Jordan and Roigard return. Also, work needs to be made to secure Frizzell back for next season and maybe also Mo’unga; they’re just wasting time playing in japan
55 Go to commentsOn the title, i wonder for many of those people it is a case something like a belief in working smarter, not harder?
1 Go to commentsForget Sotutu. One of those whose top level is Super Rugby. Id take a punt on Wallace Sititi Finau ahead of Glass body Blackadder.
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