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'Ardie is not that': Ex-All Black fed up with the selection of hybrid players

Ardie Savea, captain of New Zealand (R) and head coach Dave Rennie speak to media during the Nations Championship match between the New Zealand All Blacks and Italy at Hnry Stadium on July 11, 2026 in Wellington, New Zealand. (Photo by Fiona Goodall - FIR/Federugby via Getty Images)
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Ex-All Black halfback Justin Marshall is fed up with certain hybrid player selections and wants the All Blacks selectors to start picking a specialist No.8.

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Dave Rennie’s first loose forward trio sprung a surprise with Luke Jacobson named at openside against France, last year’s No.8 Peter Lakai selected at blindside for the first time in his career and captain Ardie Savea at No.8.

In his second Test in charge, Jacobson and Savea were again named at 7 and 8, with a new blindside in Wallace Sititi. Debutant Anton Segner came into the game at openside to replace Jacobson.

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The head coach claimed “they are just numbers” on the back of the jerseys and that the roles have little differentiation in the modern age.

Marshall disagreed and implored the selectors to go for a big bodied ball carrier like Wallace Sititi who can bend the defensive line in 10 channel.

“I want to see a genuine out-and-out No.8. Ardie is not that. He’s a hybrid,” Marshall told Sky Sport’s The Breakdown.

“In the first two test matches this year, he has not come off the back of a scrum once. Not one carry off the back. And there’s nothing more fearsome to a first five and a flanker out there, I can tell you, than a powerful No.8 coming off and all of a sudden the defence has to adjust and adapt.

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“Wallace Sititi can do that. He started to do that inaccurately, yes, because he’s a bit rusty yesterday in the Test, and that’s where the balance has got to go to.

“That’s why I want to make that back row look like that.”

Sititi played the final quarter at No.8 against Italy after captain Savea was subbed off for lock Josh Lord, with a reshuffle putting Tupou Vaa’i back on the blindside.

Marshall was not a fan of the Vaa’i blindside experiment which was first tried under Ian Foster against France in the opening game of the 2023 Rugby World Cup.

Former coach Scott Robertson tried the ploy again last July against France with Vaa’i given the No.6 jersey in Wellington.

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“In my mind, he’s a world class at lock. He was the standout player and had been for the All Blacks for a couple of years,” Marshall explained.

“That’s where his energy levels are really, really good and I think he understands the mindset of where he positionally needs to be on the field at lock.”

The issue for Marshall is the expanded role of loose forwards who have to operate out in the wide channels against outside backs.

“Loosies now is such a different role. You’ve got to distribute him much more, be able to play in the outside channels. I don’t think that’s in his DNA. Not that he can’t adjust. So for me, I’d leave him at lock,” he said.

“I would have Wallace Sititi at No.8 with Peter Lakai and Ardie Savea on the flanks. I know that’s not giving us height in the lineout, but Wallace can be used as a lineout option.”

 

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unknown 1 hr ago

The AllBlacks were a better and stronger group of players when they were playing South Africa on a regular basis. The last two Hakas formations looked very unorganised. To the novice or the casual fan. They won’t see it. But structure and discipline is the key. You can see that they’re still searching themselves. And if you look at their fitness. They don’t look physically strong and dominant like they use too. Look at the score for these two wins. The scores are to close. They better get their act together before they play The Springboks!!

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TeRapaRFC 7 mins ago

Do you mind explaining why the All Blacks were better when we were playing South Africa on a regular basis?


The reason I ask is because the data does not support that claim. We had exceptional players at the time.e that we don't have at this moment in time. South Africa didn't make them better players.


The only real advantage for playing the South Africans on a regular basis was their physicality. Beyond that, South Africa added little to no value for Super Rugby.

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