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Andy Farrell: 'If I can try and sum it up of where we are at...'

By Liam Heagney at Aviva Stadium, Dublin
Ireland players (from left) Jack Crowley, Tadhg Beirne and Josh van der Flier after the Autumn Nations Series win over Argentina (Photo by Seb Daly/Sportsfile via Getty Images)

Andy Farrell has given his halfway verdict on the efforts of his Ireland team in the 2024 Autumn Nations Series. The Irish have played two of their four November matches, following their opening 13-23 defeat to New Zealand with a 22-19 win over Argentina on Friday night.

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Having surrendered a 13-9, 44th-minute advantage against the All Blacks to lose by 10 points, Farrell’s charges refused to buckle seven days later versus Los Pumas, clinging onto a three-point success despite last scoring in the 33rd-minute of the match.

Both performances left much to be desired. Ireland may have come into the series ranked as World Rugby’s No1 side, but they had not played since last July’s series-ending win away to South Africa in Durban, a lay-off in sharp contrast to the busy New Zealand and Argentina schedules.

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“If I can try and sum it up of where we are at, when you are looking at two top sides that we have played in the first two weeks, it looks like we’re still trying to find our feet in the intensity of the full 80 minutes for that top one per cent gains,” explained Farrell, whose team fell to third in the rankings after their opening night loss.

“Obviously, New Zealand and Argentina have been playing those type of games for the last five or six months. It looks like our lads, some of them are a little bit shy of that intensity. Hopefully we are building through this month and we’ll see the best of us in the next two games.

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“We looked lethargic. You could say that’s because of penalties given or losing a collision or whatever that maybe but just in general, the quality of opposition has been strong, very strong in these first two games and I think we will get better as we go through.”

Ireland, who next host Fiji on November 23, led Argentina 12-0 after just six minutes, and Crowley’s conversion of Joe McCarthy’s 32nd-minute try made it 22-9 heading towards the interval. However, they failed to score again in a contest where the six-three penalties conceded tally at the break finished a lopsided 13-6 against them. It hurt.

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“It is something that we have been outstanding on over the last 10 years actually but certainly it’s not done out of a player going out there to be indisciplined. It’s coming from the right place.

“That might sound stupid but at the same time what you are trying to do is the right thing by the team and trying to pull a rabbit too much out of the hat at times. You just need to be a little more patient individually and trust the team of what we are about,” he said in wake of a display that included yellow cards for Finlay Bealham and McCarthy.

“It was three or four games in one really, wasn’t it? The over-riding feeling is we are delighted to get the win. There was a few things we needed to learn from last week, some things that we didn’t address on the field but we said last week that we had a chance of winning ugly – we did that this week so that’s a plus.

“But just going through the game, I thought we showed some real good intent, certainly in the first half. We was direct, we was powering into them, it was hard work to handle playing off quick ball etc and then on the back of that if we get the try from Tadhg Beirne, that probably justifies the score a little bit because of the dominance that we had.

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“But we know the type of side that they are, they have improved out of sight, Argentina, and the pressure that they put on us and we put on ourselves in the second half obviously brought them back into the game. But to cut a long story short, we held our nerve towards the end and just about got there.”

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'Razor's conservatism is in danger of halting New Zealand's progress'

I really dont know what the problem is Nick. Cane was immense this year and no one below him demanded the job. TJ perhaps less so but he was always going to start the season at 9 anyway due to the thing they call experience. I think guys like Lakai will have learnt a lot from the likes of Cane and Ill garrantee TJ has helped the Roigard/Ratima/Hothem settle in to their roles much better than they would have had there been no experience around. At the start of 2024 these guys had 3 tests between them. Im glad TJ was around.

The biggest fail area from my pov is centre. Razors lack of desire to change what is clearly failing is a worry. Is he waiting for a full year of SR? Is he not sure? I dont know the answer of course but He fiddled where he shouldnt have and didnt touch the area he should have. WJ at 15 is an experiment. Its not a clear decision yet either. WJ is an amazing attacking player. He isnt an amazing kicker or an amazing decision maker.

The 10 position is being handled very badly too. Its Dmac but BB is constantly in there, Its BB but no 15 to back that up or its no one. GET RID of the centre pairing and get Love in at 15. The backs will function way better. All the players get their SR backs working far better than Razor has gotten, and with no dedicated backs coach in the ABs its a clear problem area.


Also this comparing SA with NZ when 1 side is retaining all their stars and the other side has had some major changes isnt a apples with apples comparison. Imagine comparing a F1 racing team where 1 team was 100% settled and the other was brand new....Just not a comparison worth doing as it proves nothing other than the blatently obvious.

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JW 1 hour ago
'Razor's conservatism is in danger of halting New Zealand's progress'

Razor is compensating, and not just for the Foster era.


Thanks again for doing the ground work on some revealing data Nick.


This article misses some key points points that are essential to this debate though;


Razor is under far more pressure than Rassie to win

Rassie is a bolder selector than Razor, and far more likely to embrace risk under pressure than his counterpart from New Zealand.

It doesn't realise the difficulties of a country like South Africa, with no rugby season to speak of at the moment, to get full use out of overseas internationals

Neither world player of the year Pieter-Steph du Toit nor all-world second row Eben Etzebeth were automatic selections despite the undue influence they exert on games in which they play.

The last is that one coach is 7 years into his era, where the other is in his first, and is starting with a far worse blank slate than where upon South Africa's canvas could be layered onto after 2017.

The spread at the bottom end is nothing short of spectacular. Seventeen more South Africans than New Zealanders started between one and five games in 2024.

That said, I think the balance needs to be at least somewhere in the middle. I don't know how much that is going to be down to Razor's courage, and New Zealands appetite however.


Sadly I think it is going to continue and the problem is going to be masked by much better results next year, even forgotten with an undefeated season. Because even this article appears to misconstruing the..

known quantities

as being TJP and Sam Cane. In the context of what would need to change for the numbers above to be similar, it's players like Jordie Barrett, Beauden Barrett, Rieko Ioane, Sevu Reece, Ethan Blackadder, Codie Taylor, where the reality needs to be meet face on.


On Jordie Barrett at Lienster, I really hope he can be taught how to tackle with a hard shoulder like Henshaw and Ringrose have. You can see in these highlights he doesn't have the physical presence of those two, or even the ones behind him in NZ like ALB and AJ Lam. I can't really seem him making leaps in other facets if he's already making headlines now.

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