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Where are they now? – New Zealand 2008 Junior World Championship
This was the year when two worlds collided and morphed into one. Prior to 2008, World Rugby – known as IRB at the time – used to run World Cups at U21s and U19s. However, a decision was taken to amalgamate both tournaments and run them as a single U20s age-grade event.
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It was music to New Zealand ears. They had won the final of the U19s tournament that was staged in Ireland in 2007, and it was only natural that they carried over that success into the following year at U20s level with a 38-3 win in the final in Wales in June 2008.
England were in the opposition corner, but the notions held by Nigel Redman’s team of becoming inaugural Junior World Championship champions were quickly dismantled. They had come into the tournament as Six Nations Grand Slam champions and had beaten Australia and South Africa en route to the final in Swansea.
However, with out-half Alex Goode missing two early penalty kicks, Kade Poki’s 17th-minute try left the crowd of 8,537 wanting to see some more Kiwi frills. They got their wish in the second half, Jackson Willison, Andre Taylor and Ryan Crotty scoring – and England’s disappointing effort was compounded by Calum Clark getting red-carded.
Fifteen years later, what has been the legacy of the Baby Blacks’ class of 2008? All Blacks legends in Sam Whitelock and Aaron Smith, as well as Crotty and the infamous Zac Guilford.
Meanwhile, five of the age-grade matchday 22 were capped at Test level by other countries, Paea Fa’anunu and Nasi Manu with Tonga, Grayson Hart and Sean Maitland with Scotland, and Rodney Ah You with Ireland. In total, seven are still playing professionally in their mid-30s. Here is their story:
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15. Trent Renata
Made his sole Chiefs appearance in Super Rugby in 2010 before nine more appearances with the Highlanders between 2013-2015. Spent two years in Italy with Mogliano before returning to New Zealand to play Mitre Cup with Wellington until 2020.
14. Kade Poki
Was a Super Rugby regular with the 2008 title-winning Crusaders before flying to Wales for the age-grade tournament. Five more Super Rugby campaigns followed, the latter three at the Highlanders, before he tried his luck in Japan at Kubota Spears. Four seasons in France then wound down his career, three at Bayonne before wrapping up at Anglet in Federale 1 in 2018/19.
13. Jackson Willison
Six Super Rugby seasons followed from 2009, four at the Chiefs and two more with the Blues, before Europe beckoned. There were two years at Grenoble in France and four in England – two each at Worcester and Bath. Last heard of at Soyaux-Angouleme in the French Pro D2 in 2020/21. Played twice for Maori All Blacks on their 2013 North American tour.
12. Ryan Crotty
Became a Crusaders legend, playing 11 Super Rugby seasons before switching to Kubota Spears in Japan when last month he was crowned a League One champion. Won 48 caps for the All Blacks, debuting in 2013 and finishing in the bronze play-off versus Wales at the 2019 Rugby World Cup. He missed out, though, on selection for the 2015 RWC squad.
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11. Zac Guildford
Had already broken through at the Hurricanes before this age-grade success. Five more Super Rugby campaigns followed, the last four at the Crusaders, before he headed overseas for a single season at both Clermont and the Waratahs. His personal life crashed and burned throughout, and his playing career fizzled out with a 2018/19 Pro D2 spell at Nevers before an unsuccessful post-pandemic dalliance at Wairarapa Bush. Won just 10 All Blacks caps but is a 2011 Rugby World Cup winner having started in the pool win over Canada in Wellington. Also played for NZ 7s and the Maori All Blacks.
10. Daniel Kirkpatrick
Broke through to Super Rugby in 2009, playing three campaigns for the Hurricanes and one for the Blues. Four seasons at Castres in France followed, his first resulting in a Top 14 title final win over Toulon. His European adventure ended with a Pro D2 season at Albi before a return to New Zealand was capped by four Super Rugby bench appearances in 2018 with the Blues.
9. Grayson Hart
Took a while to kick into gear due to his time on the Super Rugby fringes at the Blues and Waratahs. A switch to Scotland changed everything, stints at Edinburgh and Glasgow coinciding with three Scotland Test caps and a run on the World 7s circuit. Finished up at Bedford in the English Championship pre-lockdown.
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1. Paea Fa’anunu
Didn’t make it in Super Rugby, playing provincially for Auckland, Northland and Canterbury before a career-transforming move to France where he played for Montpellier, Castres and Dax, winning the Top 14 title in 2018. Won 11 caps for Tonga.
2. Ash Dixon
Another slow burner who knocked about at provincial level before a 2013 Super Rugby emergence at the Hurricanes. Soon moved to the Highlanders for whom he played until 2021. Had a mid-career stint at Saitama and he has returned to Japan, spending the past two campaigns at the Green Rockets. Was a frequent Maori All Blacks selection.
3. Ben Afeaki
An unfortunate case of what could have been. North Harbour helped to get him into the Chiefs where he won back-to-back Super Rugby titles in 2012 and 2013. Retired in April 2015 at the age of just 27 after failing to get back from a February 2014 concussion that was exacerbated by a comeback bang on the training ground.
4. Chris Smith
The age-grade skipper never really kicked on and after multiple provincial seasons at North Harbour, he quit New Zealand in 2014 for a career at the NFL Players’ Association in Washington. Is now an assistant director in their benefits department.
5. Sam Whitelock
What a career he has had. A multiple Super Rugby title winner with the Crusaders, his only break was a few months in Japan at Saitama before the world went into lockdown. Now has a deal secured to join Pau – and his brother Luke – in France when the upcoming Rugby World Cup is over. Is the most-capped All Blacks lock of all time, having played 143 matches since his 2010 debut. Started in the World Cup finals wins in 2011 and 2015.
6. Peter Saili
Played in six Super Rugby campaigns before emigrating to France for Top 14 stints at Bordeaux and Pau. Was last heard of in 2020/21 at Valence in the Pro D2. Made the wider Samoa squad for the 2015 Rugby Cup but missed out and never played Test rugby.
7. Luke Braid
Became a Chiefs Super Rugby player in 2010 but switched to the Blues for five more campaigns before heading to France for three and a half Top 14 seasons at Bordeaux. Quit in early 2019 for personal reasons to return to New Zealand. Another who represented the Maori All Blacks.
8. Nasi Manu
Travelled to Wales with the U20s as a Super Rugby title winner with the Crusaders. The Highlanders became his home, though, spending six Super Rugby seasons there before wanderlust kicked in, taking him to Edinburgh and Benetton. Last heard of in Japan, playing for Hino Red Dolphins in 2022. Won nine caps for Tonga, featuring at the 2019 Rugby World Cup after successfully battling testicular cancer.
A crowd of 33,210 turned up at Newlands to see an age-grade South African side inspired by a then 18-year-old Handre Pollard end the four-year grip that the NZ had on the U20s title.@heagneyl 👨💻 looks at where they are now #rugby https://t.co/qIvYSYNjdd
— RugbyPass (@RugbyPass) June 4, 2023
Replacements:
Rodney Ah You (for Fa’anunu)
Was snapped by Irish side Connacht in 2010/11, spending six seasons there (and winning the 2016 Pro 12) and two more at Ulster. Capped three times by Joe Schmidt’s Ireland in 2014. Three years at Newcastle followed before he swapped England for France post-lockdown, joining Pro D2 Vannes in 2021. Now at Limoges in National 2.
Quentin MacDonald (for Dixon)
Forged a career on the Super Rugby fringes, featuring for Crusaders, Blues and Chiefs across six seasons but starting in just eight of his 53 appearances. Had a fleeting stint away at Munster in that time but it was across four seasons at Oyonnax in France where he thrived. Returned to New Zealand to play provincially for Tasman and the hooker’s longevity was rewarded with a Super Rugby start for the Crusaders against Fijian Drua in March.
Josh Townsend (for Whitelock)
Short-lived NPC exposure for Otago and Auckland was the height of it for the replacement lock who joined craft beverage company Zeffer in March 2011, going on to become its CEO in 2018.
Hugh Reed (for Saili)
Another who didn’t press on, bowing out after some provincial rugby for Hawkes Bay. Is now a schoolteacher in the Napier area.
Aaron Smith (for Hart)
Has shot the lights out with his stellar career after a 2011 breakthrough at the Highlanders via Manawatu. Won a 2015 Super Rugby title and is now set for a club career swansong in Japan with Toyota Verblitz having made his final Super Rugby appearance just last weekend. Still firmly in the All Blacks’ plans, with high hopes of adding to his 114 caps and his 2015 World Cup win.
Andre Taylor (for Poki)
Another Manawatu product, the Hurricanes became the winger’s Super Rugby club for five seasons before a Japanese adventure featured three years at Hanazono Kintetsu Liners and two with Munakata Sanix Blues. Came back for a 2019 season at Manawatu.
Sean Maitland (for Renata)
Still going strong with Saracens in England, starting in last month’s Gallagher Premiership final win over Sale at Twickenham. Was a Super Rugby title winner at the Crusaders before playing in the 2008 age-grade final. Headed to Glasgow in 2012/13, going on to win 53 caps for Scotland and tour Australia with the 2013 British and Irish Lions. Spent one season at London Irish before switching to Saracens in 2016.
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Billy's been playing consistently well for 2 - 3 seasons now and deserves a look in at the top level. Ioane and ALB are still first choice but there needs to be injury cover and succession. His partnership with Jordie gives him first dibs you'd think. Go the Hurricanes.
3 Go to commentsIt’s not up to Wales to support Georgian Rugby. That’s up to International Rugby and Georgia. I sympathise with Georgia’s decent attempt to create this fixture. But for Wales the proposed match up is just a potential stick to beat them with and a potential big psychological blow that young Welsh team doesn’t need. (I’m Irish BTW.)
2 Go to commentsCale certainly looks great in space, but as you say, he has struggled in contact. At 23 years old, turning 24 this year, he should be close to full physical maturity and yet there exists a considerable gap in the power and physicality required for international rugby. Weight doesn’t automatically equate to power and physicality either. Can he go from a player who’s being physically dominated in Super rugby to physically dominating in international rugby in 1 or 2 years? That’s a big ask but he may end up being a late bloomer.
28 Go to commentsIf rugby wants to remain interesting in the AI era then it will need to work on changing the rules. AI will reduce the tactical advantage of smart game plans, will neutralize primary attacking weapons, and will move rugby from a being a game of inches to a game of millimetres. It will be about sheer athleticism and technique,about avoiding mistakes, and about referees. Many fans will find that boring. The answer is to add creative degrees of freedom to the game. The 50-22 is an example. But we can have fun inventing others, like the right to add more players for X minutes per game, or the equivalent of the 2-point conversion in American football, the ability to call a 12-player scrum, etc. Not saying these are great ideas, but making the point that the more of these alternatives you allow, the less AI will be able to lock down high-probability strategies. This is not because AI does not have the compute power, but because it has more choices and has less data, or less-specific data. That will take time and debate, but big, positive and immediate impact could be in the area of ref/TMO assistance. The technology is easily good enough today to detect forward passes, not-straight lineouts, offside at breakdown/scrum/lineout, obstruction, early/late tackles, and a lot of other things. WR should be ultra aggressive in doing this, as it will really help in an area in which the game is really struggling. In the long run there needs to be substantial creativity applied to the rules. Without that AI (along with all of the pro innovations) will turn rugby into a bash fest.
24 Go to commentsSouth Africa rarely play Ireland and France on these tours. Mostly, England, Scotland and Wales. I wonder why
1 Go to commentsIt was a let’s-see-what-you're-made-of type of a game. The Bulls do look good when the opposition allows them to, but Munster shut them down, and they could not find a way through. Jake should be very worried about their chances in the competition.
2 Go to commentsHats off to Fabian for a very impressive journey to date. Is it as ‘uniquely unlikely’ as Rugby Pass suggests, given Anton Segner’s journey at the Blues?
1 Go to commentsSad that this was not confirmed. When administrators talk about expanding the game they evidently don’t include pathways to the top tier of rugby for teams outside of the old boys club. Rugby deserves better, and certainly Georgia does.
2 Go to commentsLions might take him on if they move on Van Rooyen but I doubt he will want to go back, might consider it a step backwards for himself. Sharks would take him on but if Plumtree goes on to win the challenge cup they will keep him on. Also sharks showing some promising signs recently. Stormers and Bulls are stable and Springboks are already filled up. Quality coach though, interesting to see where he ends up
1 Go to commentsAnd the person responsible for creating a culture of accountability is?
3 Go to commentsMore useless words from Ben Smith -Please get another team to write about. SA really dont need your input, it suck anyway.
264 Go to commentsThis disgraceful episode must result in management and coach team sackings. A new manager with worse results than previous and the coaching staff need to coached. Awful massacre led by donkeys.
1 Go to commentsInteresting article with one glaring mistake. This sentence: “And between the top four nations right now, Ireland, France, South Africa, and New Zealand…” should read: And between the top four nations right now, South Africa, Ireland, New Zealand and France…”. Get it right wistful thinkers, its not that hard.
24 Go to commentsHow did Penny get the gig anyway?
3 Go to commentsNice write up Nick and I would have agreed a week ago. However as you would know Cale & co got absolutely monstered by the Blues back row of Sotutu, Ioane and Papaliti and not all of these 3 are guaranteed a start in the Black jumper. He may need to put some kgs before stepping up, Spring tour? After the week end Joe will be a bit more restless. Will need to pick a mobile tough pack for Wales and hope England does the right thing and bashes the ABs. I like your last paragraph but I would bring Swinton, Hannigan into the 6 role and Bobby V to 8
28 Go to commentsThe Crusaders can still get in to the Play Off’s. The imminent return of outstanding captain Scott Barrett and his All Black team mate Codie Taylor will be a big boost.There are others like Tamaiti Williams too. Two home games coming up. Fellow Crusader fans get there and support these guys. I will be.
2 Go to commentsCant get more Wellington than Proctor.
3 Go to commentsWhy not let the media decide. Like how they choose the head coach. Like most of us we entrust the rugby system to choose. A rugby team includes the coaches. It's collective.
14 Go to commentsHi NIck, I have been very impressed with him and he seems a smart player who can see opportunities which Bobby V _(who must be an international 6_) doesn’t see or have the speed to take advantage of. If he continues to improve and puts on 5kgs then he could be a great 8. He is a bit taller than Keiran Reid at 1.93m and 111 kgs, so his skill set fits his body size and who knows where it will lead. I hope the spate of Achilles tendon issues have been dealt with by the S&C people. It’s been a very long time since Mark Loane and Kefu stood out at 8. The question is will we be able to hold onto him, if he does make it he will be pretty hot property. I disagree with the idea of letting them go to the Northern Hemisphere and then bring them back.
28 Go to commentsBilly Fulton 🤣🤣🤣🤣 garrrmon not even close
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