How Swinson went from Barbarians fiasco to real deal at Saracens
It is safe to say it has been a remarkably rejuvenating 15 months for ex-Scotland lock Tim Swinson since he ended a six-day retirement to go on and play for Saracens. The 34-year-old helped the fallen giants to regain their Gallagher Premiership status, was voted players’ player of the season by his dressing room colleagues, agreed to a one-year contract extension and will now run out this Sunday at The Rec ready to renew his ‘opposites attract’ second row partnership with a certain Maro Itoje.
Life hasn’t been all sweetness and light, though. It was this week last year when unimaginable darkness descended. Swinson was one of the 13 Barbarians caught out socialising and the infamous bubble breach resulted in the cancellation of the planned exhibition game versus England at Twickenham.
It was the sort of bewildering adversity that could have bowled over a less resilient character. Swinson was charged with being one of the ‘older and more experienced players who went out only on the Wednesday evening and then gave a false account‘. His sanction? A fine of three weeks wages, reduced to one and a half as a result of mitigation, along with a four-week match suspension, three of which were suspended subject to future conduct and completion of unpaid community work.
So far he has been involved in online dance and mobility via the Saracens Foundation and at the end of this month he will pair up with the Onside initiative that assists young offenders who have fallen foul of the law. For sure these are good deeds by Swinson, noble endeavours that will close the chapter on his involvement in a fiasco that Eddie Jones claimed reduced rugby to a laughing stock.
“As a situational moment it was really a moment of several really bad decisions personally and as a group of players,” admitted Swinson over the phone to RugbyPass from the Saracens training ground. “The only positives we can take out of it as a group is how we stuck together, rallied around and tried to own up to our mistakes.
'Coronavirus has really put the kibosh on the nights out and socialising outside the hotel'…
Barbarians lock Tim Swinson spoke to @heagneyl ???on what the team knew they could and couldn't do, and a whole lot more…https://t.co/3HyEUL7EUN
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“We showed that through our actions immediately after the incident and in the following weeks. It is certainly not a time I look back on fondly but I am trying to focus on the important stuff of what is happening going forward, doing the community work and really just trying to, I don’t know, not make the same mistake twice. Yeah, it wasn’t ideal.”
Tell us about the community work? “It has been a mixed bag. I have signed up for Onside, which is about helping improve young offenders and people who have been on the wrong side of the law at a young age, to help them through rugby to gain employability skills and self-confidence to go back into the workforce. I was really keen that I wanted to do something really tangible and you could see it has a positive effect on not just the rugby community but also the community as a whole.
“That is starting at the end of October. Before that, I have done online dance and mobility classes through the Saracens Foundation, which does a lot of great work in North London. They do a lot of support in the community with disabilities. The focus is on mobility in the older residents of the local areas, particularly around Barnet, to be social with people, especially in moments of isolation.
“The classes would usually be face-to-face but doing an exercise class over Zoom was an interesting experience. It was rewarding. The instructors did a great job being able to get so much intensity and enjoyment across a screen essentially.”
It was last month when ex-England skipper Chris Robshaw spoke with RugbyPass about his own Barbarians legacy, mentioning how he was in discussion with RFU chief Bill Sweeney about ideas aimed at strengthening the links between the professional and grassroots sections of the sport. One suggestion was that rather than Owen Farrell be given a five-match ban for his September 2020 red card when playing for Saracens, that it would instead be reduced if he volunteered to coach at a grassroots level.
That’s a suggestion which piques the interest of Swinson, whose work with the Scottish players’ union often left him mystified by the working of the disciplinary area of the sport. “My issue with the citing process, from a player’s point of view, is sometimes it is quite opaque why players get certain sentences for want of a better word. It’s just sometimes I don’t understand the differences, maybe because I am not in the room.
“I think anything that can involve a link between the professional and the amateur game would be fantastic. My only question would be perhaps should it necessarily be seen as a punishment? Surely more can be done to have that link without being forced to do it because something went wrong and you are having your sentence reduced. As part of a wider change of the professional rugby landscape, for that to be one of the changes, that is a fantastic idea from Chris.”
Enough, though, about the Barbarians and a night of high jinks to forget. What Swinson has achieved in becoming a Saracens regular is nothing to be sniffed at. It was around the time of his 33rd birthday when a chat with incoming Glasgow coach Danny Wilson resulted in the 38-cap forward opting to retire. He was at peace with that decision and yet he still somehow had his mind changed when Saracens got on the blower after his ‘I’m quitting’ decision was made official.
"I was actually at Pennyhill Park on Tuesday. I was looking for him and I saw his wife and his little dog. We get the odd message." @SDLegion @ChrisRobshaw on Eddie Jones, life post @EnglandRugby & @Harlequins and the BaBas fiasco, writes @heagneyl ???https://t.co/daJ8J1EYFn
— RugbyPass (@RugbyPass) September 16, 2021
The London club always had a fond place in his heart. Swinson grew up near Bramley Road, playing minis at the ground before watching Saracens at Vicarage Road as a fan prior to embarking on his own professional career at Newcastle. It was March 2008 when he made his Falcons debut and here we are 13-and-a-half years later talking about a well-respected career that is enjoying quite an inspired final flourish.
His initial deal was only supposed to last through to the end of the Championship campaign, but so well did that go that he is revelling in the club’s return to the Premiership with another twelve-month contract. “I’m in a quite lucky position,” explained Swinson ahead of his fourth successive Saracens start this season.. “I felt ready to retire when I did. It [retirement] wasn’t made by the fact that no one wanted me at a club. I felt ready to retire.
“I had not enjoyed rugby for a year or two-year period and I felt ready to move on with my next challenge, but I am really grateful for the opportunity to come down here. It was a club I supported in my childhood, I played with some of the coaches and it would be too good an opportunity to turn down. It highlights also why I chose to stay, that it is an opportunity that is a really good end to my career, to really enjoy rugby and playing.
“It wasn’t that I necessarily had to retire. If, for example, Mark (McCall) had come back and said there wasn’t a space for me after last season, I would still have been happy to retire then. Thankfully I am in a good position. I wouldn’t say I am completely settled (on what I want to do next) but I am in a good position moving forward in terms of transition so that is not such a scary feeling as it can be if retirement comes out of the blue because of injury or lack of selection or you just hadn’t planned well enough. I’m extremely happy about the opportunity.
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“I only planned to stay for a year. We had a conversation about it in the new year and worked out that we both wanted to go ahead. It’s nice playing one more year. While it is good fun you might as well keep on doing it.”
Why has Swinson fitted the Saracens mould so well? “The basics are working hard and that is something I found quite easy to do, to keep going. I feel like once you start working hard, everything else falls into place. Although the Saracens players are extremely good and it can be quite an intimidating environment when you are new, I felt very lucky to have this opportunity to be with this team.
“They are very collaborative – they help you get better. It is not just about, ‘I’m great, so I’ll be fine’. They genuinely help the whole squad, from the guys who are in their first-year academy to guys like myself joining the club at 33. They genuinely want the whole squad and backroom staff to grow together. We socialise as a club and it is a really telling sign of why they have been successful.
“It is not just about a group of players. It’s about being together regardless of who you are, helping each other. I was also quite lucky I knew a lot of the players having played against them in various guises. We all sort of knew each other vaguely,” continued Swinson, struggling at times to be heard over some boisterous background laughter during a busy Friday lunchtime at the Saracens canteen.
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“Being a forward I spend a lot of time doing forwards units, but just the way everyone speaks to each other during training sessions and communicates rather than just saying, ‘That’s crap, you have got to do that better’. It’s like, ‘Well, why don’t you try this?’ There is that feeling that if you are doing something it’s not because you don’t care or not trying, it’s because you genuinely think that is right and that is how it should be done and if it is wrong, help them learn what is right. The delivery of that is fantastic and it is a squad-wide trait.
“The guys you perceive as being the superstars are very willing to help everyone and that has been a real focus from when the current guys were the older guys in the academy. It is really about being together and understanding that it is not just a team of five people, it’s a team of 15, 23, however big the squad is. That really shines through with the understanding that everyone on the pitch has a role and we don’t need everyone to be doing exactly the same things, but if they can do what they do to the best of their ability then as a team we will be better. That is really useful.”
Especially when it comes to dovetailing with a second row partner as esteemed as Itoje, the much-celebrated Lions and England talisman. “Maro is a very good player. You call him a second row but he is a good rugby player, he is smart in what he does and he is doing really well. I can’t say much other than great things about him.
“The difference between me and him in terms of our playing styles highlights what rugby as a sport is, where you have got two guys who play the same position can do very different roles and we are just very aware that the team needs both of what we do. I don’t know if you would ever pick me over Maro but it just highlights how much of a team sport rugby is, where you can have two very different people playing the same position.”
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Whatever happens in the future, Swinson will always take great pride in how Saracens negotiated the hurdles of their English second-tier campaign following automatic relegation for salary cap breaches. “The whole season was a challenge. We must have come into training four or five times from October through to February where they were saying ‘we are going to start playing games again on this date’ and you would get to the week before and it was pushed back.
“There was even a stage where we thought the season wasn’t necessarily going to happen. That uncertainty made it very difficult to keep focused. I had the longest pre-season of my career, it went on for six months or something silly like that. The other challenge was the style of rugby played in the Championship, older players who are more set-piece orientated, is incredibly different to the Premiership.”
The adventure eventually started in March with a dramatic thud, Saracens humbled on day one at Cornish Pirates, but it culminated three months later in Swinson getting voted his team’s players’ player of the year – quite an accolade for an old guy in a dressing room rammed with household names.
“There is a lot of conversation about that (Pirates) game. They played well, didn’t make as many mistakes as we did. There was a slight shift in our approach to our game plan and it was lucky it happened then rather than later in the season. It certainly was a wake-up call,” he suggested before skipping forward 15 weeks to how he learned he had become a Saracens dressing room favourite.
“It happened straight after we played the second final against Ealing. Apart from being absolutely knackered, which was my overall feeling, it was a great privilege. Saracens have a lot of quality players. Everyone knows the star names who go on tour with England and the Lions but it hides the fact there is quality at the club at every level.
“There is constant competition. I managed to get on board with a lot of stuff they were doing, really focused on working hard, and seeing it pay off by being noticed by everyone was just fantastic. Some guys joked it would be the perfect way to retire but, fortunately, I signed another year. To be voted players’ player of the year after only being at the club a year, I can’t really say how I realise how much of an honour that is.”
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> They are not standalone entities. They are linked to an amateur association which holds the FFR licence that allows the professional side to compete in the league. That’s a great rule. This looks like the chicken or egg professional scenario. How long is it going to be before the club can break even (if that is even a thing in French rugby)? If the locals aren’t into well it would be good to se them drop to amateur level (is it that far?). Hope they can reset from this level and be more practical, there will be a time when they can rebuild (if France has there setup right).
1 Go to commentsWhat about changing the ball? To something heavier and more pointed that bounces unpredictably. Not this almost round football used these days.
35 Go to commentsThis is the problem with conservative mindsets and phycology, and homogenous sports, everybody wants to be the same, use the i-win template. Athlete wise everyone has to have muscles and work at the gym to make themselves more likely to hold on that one tackle. Do those players even wonder if they are now more likely to be tackled by that player as a result of there “work”? Really though, too many questions, Jake. Is it better Jake? Yes, because you still have that rugby of ole that you talk about. Is it at the highest International level anymore? No, but you go to your club or checkout your representative side and still engage with that ‘beautiful game’. Could you also have a bit of that at the top if coaches encouraged there team to play and incentivized players like Damian McKenzie and Ange Capuozzo? Of course we could. Sadly Rugby doesn’t, or didn’t, really know what direction to go when professionalism came. Things like the state of northern pitches didn’t help. Over the last two or three decades I feel like I’ve been fortunate to have all that Jake wants. There was International quality Super Rugby to adore, then the next level below I could watch club mates, pulling 9 to 5s, take on the countries best in representative rugby. Rugby played with flair and not too much riding on the consequences. It was beautiful. That largely still exists today, but with the world of rugby not quite getting things right, the picture is now being painted in NZ that that level of rugby is not required in the “pathway” to Super Rugby or All Black rugby. You might wonder if NZR is right and the pathway shouldn’t include the ‘amateur’, but let me tell you, even though the NPC might be made up of people still having to pull 9-5s, we know these people still have dreams to get out of that, and aren’t likely to give them. They will be lost. That will put a real strain on the concept of whether “visceral thrill, derring-do and joyful abandon” type rugby will remain under the professional level here in NZ. I think at some point that can be eroded as well. If only wanting the best athlete’s at the top level wasn’t enough to lose that, shutting off the next group, or level, or rugby players from easy access to express and showcase themselves certainly will. That all comes back around to the same question of professionalism in rugby and whether it got things right, and rugby is better now. Maybe the answer is turning into a “no”?
35 Go to commentsWow, didn’t realise there was such apathy to URC in SA, or by Champions Cup teams. Just read Nick’s article on Crusaders, are Sharks a similar circumstance? I think SA rugby has been far more balanced than NZs, no?
2 Go to commentsBut here in Australia we were told Penney was another gun kiwi coach, for the Tahs…….and yet again it turned out the kiwi coach was completely useless. Another con job on Australian rugby. As was Robbie Deans, as was Dave Rennie. Both coaches dumped from NZ and promoted to Australia as our saviour. And the Tahs lap them up knowing they are second rate and knowing that under pressure when their short comings are exposed in Australia as well, that they will fall in below the largest most powerful province and choose second rate Tah players to save their jobs. As they do and exactly as Joe Schmidt will do. Gauranteed. Schmidt was dumped by NZ too. That’s why he went overseas. That why kiwi coaches take jobs in Australia, to try and prove they are not as bad as NZ thought they were. Then when they get found out they try and ingratiate themselves to NZ again by dragging Australian teams down with ridiculous selections and game plans. NZ rugby’s biggest problem is that it can’t yet transition from MCaw Cheatism. They just don’t know how to try and win on your merits. It is still always a contest to see how much cheating you can get away with. Without a cheating genius like McCaw, they are struggling. This I think is why my wise old mate in NZ thinks Robertson will struggle. The Crusaders are the nursery of McCaw Cheatism. Sean Fitzpatrick was probably the father of it. Robertson doesn’t know anything else but other countries have worked it out.
28 Go to commentsIt could be coincidental or prescient that the All Blacks most dominant period under Steve Hansen was when the Crusaders had their least successful period under Todd Blackadder and then the positions reversed when Razor took over the Crusaders.
28 Go to commentsDefinitely sound read everybodyexpects immediate results these days, I don't think any team would travel well at all having lost three of the most important game changers in the game,compiled with the massive injury list they are now carrying, good to see a different more in depth perspective of a coaches history.
3 Go to commentsSinckler is a really big loss for English rugby.
2 Go to commentsThanks Nick The loss of players to OS, injury and retirement is certainly not helping the Crusaders. Ditto the coach. IMO Penny is there to hold the fort and cop the flak until new players and a new coach come through,…and that's understood and accepted by Penny and the Crusaders hierarchy. I think though that what is happening with the Crusaders is an indicator of what is happening with the other NZ SRP teams…..and the other SRP teams for that matter. Not enough money. The money has come via the SR competition and it’s not there anymore. It's in France, Japan and England. Unless or until something is done to make SR more SELLABLE to the NZ/Australia Rugby market AND the world rugby market the $s to keep both the very best players and the next rung down won't be there. They will play away from NZ more and more. I think though that NZ will continue to produce the players and the coaches of sufficient strength for NZ to have the capacity to stay at the top. Whether they do stay at the top as an international team will depend upon whether the money flowing to SRP is somehow restored, or NZ teams play in the Japan comp, or NZ opts to pick from anywhere. As a follower of many sports I’d have to say that the organisation and promotion of Super Rugby has been for the last 20 years closest to the worst I’ve ever seen. This hasn't necessarily been caused by NZ, but it’s happened. Perhaps it can be fixed, perhaps not. The Crusaders are I think a symptom of this, not the cause
28 Go to commentsNo way. If you are trying to picture New Zealand rugby with an All Blacks mindset, there have been two factors instrumental to the decline of NZ rugby to date. Those are the horror that the Blues have become and, probably more so, the fixture that the Crusaders became. I don’t think it was healthy to have one team so dominant for so long, both for lack of proper representation of players from outside that environment and on the over reliance on players from within it. If you are another international side, like Ireland for example, sure. You can copy paste something succinct from one level to the next and experience a huge increase in standards, but ultimately you will not be maximizing it, which is what you need to perform to the level the ABs do. Added to that is the apathy that develops in the whole game as a result of one sides dominance. NZ, Super, and Championship rugby should all experience a boom as a result of things balancing out. That said, there is a lot of bad news happening in NZ rugby recently, and I’m not sure the game can be handled well enough here to postpone the always-there feeling of inevitable decline of rugby.
28 Go to commentsNo SA supporter miss Super Rugby - a product that is experiencing significant head wind in ANZ - the competition from rival codes are intense, match attendance figures are at a historical low and the negativity of commentators such as Kirwan and Wilson have accelerated the downward spiral in NZ. After the next RWC in 2027 sponsors will follow Qantas and start leaving in droves.
2 Go to commentsLike others, I am not seeing the connection between this edition of the Crusaders and the All Blacks future prospects under Razor. I think the analysis of the Crusaders attack recently is helpful because Razor and his coaching team used to be able to slot new guys in to their systems and see them succeed. Several of Razor’s coaches are still there so it would be surprising if the current attack and set piece has been overhauled to a great extent - but based on that analysis, it may have been. Whether it is too many new guys due to injuries or retirement or a failure of current Crusaders systems is the main question to be answered imo. It doesn’t seem relevant for the ABs.
28 Go to commentsharry potter is set in stone. he creates stability and finishes well. exactly what schmidt likes. he’s the ben smith of australian rugby. i think it could quite easily be potter toole and kellaway for the foreseeable future.
5 Go to commentsThis is short sighted from Clayton if you ask me, smacks of too much preseason planning and no adaptability. What if DMac is out for a must win match, are they still only going to bring their best first five and playmaker on late in the game? Trusting the game to someone who wasn’t even part of planning (they would have had Trask pinned in as Jacomb preseason). Perhaps if the Crusaders were better they would not have done this, but either way imo you take this opportunity to play a guy you might need starting in a final rather than having their 12th game getting comfortable coming off the bench.
1 Go to commentsThanks Brett.. At last a positive article on the potential of Wallaby candidates, great to read. Schmidt’s record as an international rugby coach speaks for itself, I’m somewhat confident he will turn the Wallaby’s fortunes around …. on the field. It will be up to others to steady the ship off the paddock. But is there a flaw in my optimism? We have known all along that Australia has the players to be very competitive with their international rivals. We know that because everyone keeps telling us. So why the poor results? A question that requires a definitive answer before the turn around can occur. Joe Schmidt signed on for 2 years, time to encompass the Lions tour of 2025. By all accounts he puts family first and that’s fair enough, but I would wager that his 2 year contract will be extended if the next 18 months or so shows the statement “Australia has the players” proves to be correct. The new coach does not have a lot of time to meld together an outfit that will be competitive in the Rugby Championship - it will be interesting to see what happens. It will be interesting to see what happens with Giteau law, the new Wallaby coach has already verbalised that he would to prefer to select from those who play their rugby in Australia. His first test in charge is in July just over 3 months away .. not a long time. I for one wish him well .. heaven knows Australia needs some positive vibes.
21 Go to commentsWhat a load of bollocks. The author has forgotten to mention the fact that the Crusaders have a huge injury toll with top world class players out. Not to mention the fact that they are obviously in a transition period. No this will not spark a slow death for NZ rugby, but it does mean there will be a new Super Rugby champion. Anyone who knows anything about NZ rugby knows that there is some serious talent here, it just isn’t all at the Crusaders.
28 Go to commentsI wouldn’t spend the time on Nawaqanitawase! No point in having him filling in a jersey when he’s committed to leave Union. Give the jersey to a young prospect who will be here in the future.
5 Go to commentsIt was a pleasure to watch those guys playing with such confidence. That trio can all be infuriating for different reasons and I can see why Jones might have decided against them. No way to justify leaving Ikitau out though. Jorgensen and him were both scheduled to return at the same time. Only one of them plays for Randwick and has a dad who is great mates with the national coach though.
55 Go to commentsBrayden Iose and Peter Lakai are very exciting Super Rugby players but are too short and too light to ever be a Test 8 vs South Africa, France, Ireland, and England, Lakai could potentially be a Test player at 7 if he is allowed to focus on 7 for Hurricanes.
7 Go to commentsPencils “Thomas du Toit” into possible 2027 Bok squad.
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