'Getting out of the hotel is pretty much a no-go' - inside the Barbarians camp prior to the 'Hungry 12' fiasco
This wasn’t how the weekend was supposed to turn out for Tim Swinson and his batch of Saracens colleagues, their Barbarians match against England getting cancelled, leaving the cash-strapped RFU deprived of some badly needed TV revenue and the reputation of the world’s favourite club side dragged through the gutter.
The Baa-Baas’ hotel bubble-breaching high jinx could yet even cost England a Six Nations title, Eddie Jones side now having to travel to Rome and run up a large score on Italy next Saturday without having blown off their seven-month pandemic rust in a Quilter Cup match against an invitational team largely drawn from Saracens and Fiji.
There was no inkling of the jaw-dropping cancellation caper that was to unfold when RugbyPass caught up with Saracens lock Swinson over Zoom late on Wednesday afternoon from a noisy Barbarians team room where the clatter of cue balls being struck and howls of laughter provided the backdrop to a 20-minute call that had been delayed due to the second row fine-tuning his match preparations with gym work and a massage.
The dedication piqued our interest, RugbyPass asking first-up: “What’s all this about? You’re there in the gym, you’re there having a massage, the Barbarians are taking this really seriously. What happened to the nights out and the beers? What’s going on?”
A strait-laced response followed. “Coronavirus has really put the kibosh on the nights out and the socialising outside the hotel, outside social distancing,” said Swinson. “We’re still doing a good job of making it fun but it’s just slightly different organisation this year.
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“It’s still a fabulous time. We’re here in a privileged position in London being I think one of the few groups of people that can associate with people outside their family and so we’re in a bubble at the hotel. We have got a really good team room and we have done games like last night, that sort of stuff, but getting out of the hotel is pretty much a no-go at the moment.
“There is a good team bond in the sense that half the squad has come from the same club [Saracens], but we have had a few beers in the team room and in the hotel so we’re doing the best we can with the limits of coronavirus. We’re certainly doing the socialising, it’s just maybe not running naked down Park Lane or something.”
Something somewhere soon got lost in translation. A dozen Barbarians players reportedly went out that night for an unsanctioned dinner outside the hotel and after an RFU investigation uncovered a second bubble breach, they pulled the plug on the planned match, preferring to take the financial hit rather than risk the health of Jones’ England facing an opposition decimated by idiotic naughty step behaviour in the pandemic climate.
The call-off will rankle with Swinson who had been enjoying the time of his rugby life in recent months at Saracens. His career was supposed to be past tense, the 33-year-retiring after he accepted he wouldn’t be part of the future which new Glasgow boss Danny Wilson is trying to build at the Warriors. But six days was all that retirement lasted, Saracens getting in touch and enticing the 38-cap Scotland lock to come with them on their novel 2020/21 Championship adventure.
There was no firm indication at that time of signing that the suspended Premiership campaign would definitely be restarted, that the mouthwatering European quarter-final at Leinster would be rescheduled. But when they went ahead, Swinson was there in the Saracens vanguard, proving himself a more than capable replacement for George Kruis who had taken up an offer in Japan.
“It was six days, a really short retirement,” he beamed. “I was ready to move on to the next part of my life. I felt I achieved a lot of what I wanted to achieve as a rugby player and then when Joe (Shaw) and Ian (Peel), coaches at Saracens I have played with in the past, got in touch I was really interested in the experience of going on and being part of a team. I didn’t just want to play rugby to get paid or to play rugby to do something with my life. I wanted to be part of an experience, part of a journey, and that is what Saracens are at the moment.
“They have a great year coming up for a lot of young guys who will get a lot of game time, a lot of learning which doesn’t often happen these days in the professional era just because of the importance of winning games in the Premiership. It’s going to be a really good opportunity to impart knowledge, help young guys come through and have a bit of fun along the way.”
It’s not without sacrifice, the forward temporarily leaving his wife and young family behind in Scotland and moving back in with his parents to take up the twelve-month contract. “My wife has been very supportive,” said Swinson, whose historical Saracens links were growing up near Bramley Road and playing at the ground before watching them at Vicarage Road. “Whenever I was up for contract the last eight years or so there has always been a discussion with Saracens and for whatever reason, we haven’t quite been able to line up and get me down there. It’s kind of been that thing that never happened.
The video that has been circulated on social media is believed to be from one of the two night’s out that forced the cancellation of Sunday’s fixture. https://t.co/LZIbX8qvqc
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“I grew up watching them. My first game of rugby was a curtain-raiser for Saracens so in that sense it was almost a perfect situation where it’s your childhood club, you’re playing with coaches that you played with before and respect, you’re playing with a great team and you have got an experience. My wife thought it was a no-brainer – ‘You have got to do it’. It has made life slightly harder but it’s certainly not something that she ever stopped me from.
“It’s a bit of a change having not really lived at home for 15 years but it’s certainly been the best way to do it. It has let me see a lot of my parents which had been a bit difficult living in Newcastle and then Glasgow. They are in the 70s but mum still works pretty much full-time at Luton Dunstable hospital as a doctor and dad is currently doing bits around accountancy history. They are both working hard – they don’t quite know how to retire.”
A bit like their son’s rugby career. Six times Swinson played for Saracens in recent weeks, twice in Europe where they came within Finn Russell’s moment of genius of reaching the final, and his Premiership highlight was scoring the late equalising try versus Bath in the club’s final appearance in the top-flight until 2021/22 at the earliest.
“It was a bit of an added bonus,” said Swinson, looking back on the high profile Saracens exposure he hadn’t anticipated. “When I signed there was a bit of talk the Prem was going to restart but it was looking forward to the Championship season. It has just been great to feel part of this team.
“Saracens as a squad have had a bit of bad press over the last year but the squad togetherness and the way they act as a unit is unbelievable. Looking from the outside and then being involved it certainly feels like everything it is imagined to be. Looking from the outside the coaches and the players support everyone and it’s a good group that are moving in the same direction together. It does help that a lot of the players that have been there a long time really bought into what Mark McCall started to create ten years ago and they all happen to be very good rugby players.
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“But their friendships, the social interactions together, are what really makes the club something where you genuinely love spending time together away from the pitch and that has been the most enjoyable bit. It has been enjoyable to enjoy the rugby again basically. They accept you for what you are. With the best will in the world, if you compare me to Maro (Itoje) we’re two very different styles of player but we play in the same position. There is the acceptance that my strengths are around the set-piece area and the scrummaging, around clearing rucks, and then you look at Maro who is just an exceptional athlete who reads the game so well.
“Rather than always trying to get everyone playing the same way, the team moulded itself to highlight the best out of everyone there and you just feel valued for what you can do rather than constantly put down for not being able to do something else.
“That really shows through in the team effort that you celebrate everything that you do, whether it’s fantastic box kicking from Richard (Wigglesworth) or brilliant kick-chasing from Sean Maitland and Alex Lewington, every little bit just adds up to make a really good performance as a team. It’s that small celebration (in a game) which makes people valued that in the end makes you play better.”
In recent years, Swinson was to the fore in setting-up Rugby Players Scotland, the union that started coming together in 2016 to fill the void that was the Scots being the only tier one nation without players’ representation. It has framed his thinking regarding what to do post-rugby but he’s still uncertain about exactly what to do and even when that might be happening now that he back playing.
“I finished a politics degree in 2010 and, as I have realised now, politics degrees are not useful in getting a job. I spent probably five years after that trying to work out what I wanted to do after rugby. I landed on law, mostly with the set-up of the players union. I found fighting for fairness and equality, fighting injustice in a broader sense very appealing and very fulfilling. What drew me to it would be perhaps that feeling of a criminal barrister. As my degree has gone on it has changed and seen different sections of the law. At the moment I would still be very keen to be a barrister.
“It’s just then making a decision between that and sort of being a management consultant. There are another four years of training and I don’t really fancy being a 39-year-old first-time barrister. I have got family and all these responsibilities away from just doing what I want to do, having done that for 15 years.
“What the last eight months really thought me is your plans change quite drastically. I currently am in the envious position of being able to be ready for any opportunity. I would love to play some more, I’ve really enjoyed this period but there are other considerations to that, family considerations, whether clubs would want me. I’m not really putting too much pressure on it.
“I really want to enjoy the next twelve months. That’s one thing I have been really clear on – this may be the only year, which is absolutely fine by me and if I enjoy it and finish on a high that’s great. If I get a chance to also play a bit more that will also be fantastic. But if I say now I will probably retire now at the end of it, it could easily change. It’s not as clear cut as yes and no,” said Swinson, going on to explaining how his perspective on rugby has altered this year since joining Saracens after first opting to retire.
“When you’re young rugby becomes your life and all you are is a rugby player… and I really spent the last few years trying to get away from being known as the rugby player. Yeah sure, I want to be known for what I do as a rugby player but at the moment I’m really Tim Swinson who plays rugby rather than the rugby player Tim Swinson.
“I just got to the stage where I didn’t need rugby. I wasn’t going to be content with going and playing Pro D2 like some people when they retire and earning a paycheque. I wanted to be part of something, that if I was going to play on I wanted to play as someone helping (others) to achieve. That can take on a lot of different roles.
“Danny Wilson of Glasgow, he and I had a conversation in October (2019) and he was highlighting he was going to move on in a different direction as Scottish rugby was going into a new cycle with younger guys coming through. If I wasn’t going to stay at Glasgow where you could help improve the next generation of Scottish players I’d look at moving on to my next chapter which was looking either like law or management consultancy. I was not resigned, I was content with my position.
“I felt like I had done everything I wanted to do and it was great to have a bit of reflection over lockdown of what I have achieved in the game which sometimes you avoid when you are playing because you go right we have played that game, it’s next game, next game. It was quite good from that point of view so I was ready to retire ready to take on another challenge but then when this [Saracens] came up it was too good an opportunity to miss.”
The pity now is that the opportunity won’t get its bonus Barbarians appearance.
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Results probably skewed by the fact that a few clubs have foreign fly halves in their 30s, but most teams have young English scrum halves. Results also likely to be skewed by the fact that many teams rely on centres and fullbacks to provide depth at 10, whereas they will need to stock a large number of specialist backup 9s.
1 Go to commentsI really get the sense that when all is said and done, the path of least resistance will end up being a merger of Wasps & Worcester that essentially kills the Worcester Warriors brand and sees Wasps permanently playing at Sixways. I’m not saying that’s what should happen or what I want to happen. I just think it’s the easiest rout to take and therefore, will be what happens. Wasps will definitely return to play first, and I suppose it all depends on if they can find support at Sixways. If people turn up and support Wasps in that community, at that ground, I bet they drop the Sevenoaks plan and just remain at Sixways. Under the radar but not totally unrelated, it looks as though London Irish are going to be brought back from the dead by a German consortium and look set to return, likely to the remade Championship. It’s set to have 12 clubs next season with 14 in 2025/26, what do you want to bet those extra 2 are Wasps and London Irish?
1 Go to commentsThe shoulder is a “joint” with multiple bones. You don’t “fracture” a shoulder, you fracture any one or more of the bones that make up a shoulder.
2 Go to commentsOh dear, bones too suspect to continue?
2 Go to commentsBold headline considering the Canes and Blues are 1 and 2 and the Brumbies were soundly beaten by the Chiefs and Blues. Biggest surprise is Rebels 4 Crusaders 12 - no one saw that coming. If Aus are improving that’s great 👍
1 Go to commentsAnna, You are right, we need to have patience whilst the others catch up to England and France. Also it is the PWR that has been the game changer for England. the RFU put money into that initially at the expense of the Red Roses. I was sceptical at first but it has paid off in spades.
1 Go to commentsI think Matt Proctor became a 1 test AB in the same fixture. Cameron is quality and has been great this season, can’t believe’s he only 27. Realistically how would he not be selected for ABs squad this year. Only Dmac is ahead of him as a specialist 10. With Jordan out, it will come down to where and when Beauden Barrett slots back in, and where they want to play Ruben Love. Cameron seems an absolute lock in for the wider squad though. Added benefit of TJ-Cameron-Jordie combination at 9, 10, 11 too.
1 Go to commentsFarcical, to what end would someone want to pay to keep this thing going.
1 Go to commentsHavili, our best 12 by a mile, will be in the squad, if he stays fit. JB is the most overrated AB in the last 50 years.
61 Go to commentsWe had during the week twilight footy, twilight cricket, tw golf plus there was the athletics club. Then the weekend was rugby 15s plus the net ball, really busy club scene back then but so much has changed and rugby has suffered. And it was all about changing lifestyles.
6 Go to commentsIn the 70s and 80s my club ran 5 Senior sides plus a Vets. Now it is 2 sides with an occasional 3rd team. Players have difficulty getting to training now, not sure why and the commitment is not there. It seems to me more a problem of people applying themselves and not expecting to turn up and play whenever they want to.
6 Go to commentsROG’s contract is until 2027. The conversation about a successor to Galthie after RWC 2027 may be starting now. We can infer that Galthie’s reign stops then. He is throwing the Irish Coaching Job angle in because he is Irish. The next Irish coach MUST be Leo Cullen. As well as being the best coach available, coaching the vast majority of Irish Internationals week in week out, he has shown incredible skill at recruiting the best coaching staff for the job in hand. That was a failing in France. Cullen is a shrewd guy and if there is a need for foreign coaches underneath him he won’t hesitate. Rightly so. Ireland does need to start to bring Irish coaches through. Not just at the professional level but we need to train coaches to man new pathways for developing kids from schools/clubs up through the divisions.
8 Go to commentsNo Islam says it must rule where it stands Thus it is to be deleted from this planet Earth
18 Go to commentsThis team probably does not beat the ABs sadly Not sure if BPA will be available given his signing for Force but has to enter consideration. Very strong possibility of getting schooled by the AB props. Advantage AB. Rodda/Skelton would be a tasty locking combination - would love to see how they get on. Advantage Wallabies. Backrow a risk of getting out hustled and outmuscled by ABs. Will be interesting to see if the Blues feast on the Reds this weekend the way they did the Brumbies we are in big trouble at the breakdown. Great energy, running and defence but goalkicking/general kicking/passing quality in the halves bothers me enormously. SA may have won the World Cup for a lot of the tournament without a recognised goalkicker but Pollard in the final made a difference IMO. Injuries and retirements leave AB stocks a bit lighter but still stronger. 12 and 13 ABs shade it (Barret > Paisami, Ione = Ikitau, arguably) Interesting clash of styles on the wings - Corey Toole running around Caleb Clark and Caleb running over the top of Toole. Reece vs Koro probably the reverse. Pretty even IMO. 15s Kelleway = Love See advantage to ABs man for man, but we are not obviously getting slaughtered anywhere which makes a nice change. Think talent wise we are pretty even and if our cohesion and teamwork is better than the ABs then its just about doable.
11 Go to commentsCompletely agree. More friday night games would be a hit. RFU to make sure every club has a floodlit pitch. Club opens again Saturday to welcome touch / tag. Minis and youths on Sunday
6 Go to comments1.97m and 105Kg? Proportionately, probably skinnier than me at 1.82 and 82kilos. He won’t survive against the big guys at that weight.
56 Go to commentsThe value he brought to the crusaders as an assistant was equal to what he got out of being there. He reflected not only on the team culture but also the credit he attributed to the rugby community. Such experience shouldn’t be overlooked.
8 Go to commentsGood luck Aussie
11 Go to commentssmith at 9 / mounga 10 / laumape 12 / fainganuku 14
61 Go to commentsBar the injuries, it’s pretty much their top team …
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