A look at Eddie Jone's potential starting XV for Argentina
England head coach Eddie Jones named his 34-man squad for the November Tests earlier today, but surprises were few and far between, as the Australian seeks to finetune his squad ahead of the Rugby World Cup in 2019.
The Old Mutual Wealth Series begins on November 11th against Argentina, before England take on Australia and Samoa in the subsequent weeks.
There were suggestions that Jones could rest several of the players that were involved with the British and Irish Lions in the summer, but the likes of Owen Farrell, Maro Itoje and Dan Cole are all included.
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In fact, of the 15 English Lions, 10 have been selected in Jones’ autumn squad. Of the remaining five, four – Jack Nowell, Joe Marler, Kyle Sinckler and Ben Te’o – are unavailable due to injury or suspension, leaving James Haskell as the sole player to miss out.
It remains to be seen how much rest those selected Lions will receive during the three weeks of competitive action.
For locks-cum-flanks Itoje, George Kruis and Courtney Lawes, there will be plenty of opportunities for rotation with three additional specialist second rows selected in the forms of Charlie Ewels, Joe Launchbury and Nick Isiekwe, as well as flanks Chris Robshaw, Tom Curry and Sam Underhill.
Cole, on the other hand, will be required in all three Tests – barring a late call-up for Sinckler, whose suspension ends prior to the final Test with Samoa – as one of only two tighthead props in the squad, alongside Exeter’s Harry Williams.
There will be opportunities to spell Farrell, with Piers Francis, Alex Lozowski and Henry Slade all included, taking the tally of competent fly-halves in the squad to five, with current incumbent George Ford also present.
It’s a midfield that will not lack for creativity or initiative, especially with Jonathan Joseph also involved, but with both Te’o and Manu Tuilagi not considered due to injury, there is no clear power carrier option in the England backline.
As such, there will be an even heavier emphasis on the likes of Lawes, Itoje, Simmonds, Jamie George, Ellis Genge and Nathan Hughes to provide England with the front-foot ball they need to launch that backline.
Strangely, two of the more interesting selections in the 34-man squad likely won’t touch a ball in anger during the series and those are Marcus Smith and Zach Mercer.
Smith and Mercer have both been included in the squad as “apprentice players” and will be involved with training and game preparation, but won’t be considered for selection. It is something New Zealand have long done on their European tours, bringing one or two promising youngsters north with them to get them used to the environment at international level, and its consistent adoption by other nations is long overdue.
Both players have shone in the age-grades for England, as well as transitioning seamlessly to senior club rugby and the opportunity to see how they cope in a senior international environment, as well as provide the England coaches with some one-on-one time with them, is too good to pass up.
Away from the apprentices, however, there is a feeling of a squad trying to iron out the last few creases and build depth before they enter the final stage of their 2019 RWC preperation.
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? Adaptable
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There are no real “surprises”, with youngsters Curry, Isiekwe and Underhill all shining in Argentina this past summer and the likes of Genge, Simmonds and Tom Dunn rewarded for excellent starts to the Premiership and European seasons. Of that inexperienced six, only Simmonds hasn’t been capped or included in an England training camp before.
Some of the more interesting position battles next month could be at loosehead, blindside and on the wing.
Given Genge’s form this season and Jones’ desire to rest Lions, the young Leicester Tiger could push Vunipola as the series goes on, whilst the competency with which Itoje and Lawes have played at six for their respective clubs will certainly give Jones pause for thought. Lawes manned the loose forward role well during Robshaw’s injury-enforced absence in the Six Nations earlier this year and may have done enough to steal the jersey.
As for the wings, Anthony Watson and Elliot Daly may have been the favourites coming into the season as recent Lions, but Jonny May has made a scintillating start to his Leicester career, bagging almost a try a game.
Then there’s Denny Solomona, whose attacking incision took the Premiership by storm last season. If he can avoid overdoing it on the “team culture issues” on the training camp trip to the Algarve, he could be in the mix, too.
Elsewhere, Jones seems to have a solid idea of what his best XV is at this point and the six remaining international windows between now and the RWC will allow him the opportunity to tinker, but predominately to build chemistry and cohesion.
Having lost just once in the last two seasons, it’s unsurprising that Jones is sticking to the script with his selections. England have enjoyed 100% success over Argentina and Australia in that period from a combined seven games (three vs Argentina, four vs Australia) and it’s a record Jones will not want to relinquish next month.
Expect to see a strong – and familiar – side take on Argentina and Australia in the opening two weeks, before potentially resting several of the Lions for the challenge of Samoa in the series finale.
Possible XV to play Argentina
15. Mike Brown
14. Anthony Watson
13. Jonathan Joseph
12. Owen Farrell
11. Jonny May
10. George Ford
9. Ben Youngs
1. Mako Vunipola
2. Dylan Hartley (c)
3. Dan Cole
4. Maro Itoje
5. George Kruis
6. Chris Robshaw
7. Sam Underhill
8. Nathan Hughes
Comments on RugbyPass
Rodda back is massively important for the Wallabies. Kaitu at hooker important too coz he was very good a few years ago.
1 Go to commentsThe pink cabous might be eligible this year and the Boks don’t need him
7 Go to commentsNasser and kaitu are options for hooker. Especially Nasser. You forgot Rodda who touch wood will be fit at test time and if fit he’s number one. Great partner for the great Skelton and Oz best lineout caller. Third best lock is LSL whom I’d be inclined to sub on for Skelton around 60 minutes. Probably start valetini at 8 because I like a big body back there. Cale should play 6 at the brumbies. For Wallabies definitely cale in the squad but as an apprentice. Dunno who starts at 6 seru wright Swinton hanigan with Will Harris and Harry Wilson not far away. Seru and Swinton my front runners but Swinton is going. Still if we don’t cap seru then Fiji must coz they need his lineout skills and easily compensate for his lack of weight
7 Go to commentsYeah but who was it?
8 Go to commentsThink you might have written this just before the Brumbies got thrashed last weekend
7 Go to commentsI really do believe that Billy Proctor should be selected at least in the larger squad but also it would be my choice at 13, much more a center than Ioane who can still play at wing. Roigard if fit should play, otherwise it should be Perenara or Christie. Also, Iose could deserve a spot at blindside. Of course, being a Canes supporter I’m biased but I really believe that at least Billy P is deserving a chance and being Holland one of the Selectors, I’m having a little hope he could grab it.
12 Go to commentsI would not play Swinton I’d pick Wright or Hanigan. The rest are decent starters, but can’t agree on any subs except Tupou. My take on the subs: Gibbon, Ueslese, Tupou, LSL, Wilson, White, Will Harrison, and Petaia.
7 Go to commentsSBW the biggest moron to pull on a black jersey a park footy player at best
8 Go to commentsSBW is fast becoming a laughing stock, his misplaced comments & lack of insight Is actually pretty sad.
8 Go to commentsJust well you guys are couch 🛋 potatoes selector's, picking a team of greenhorns to play England! “What are you people smoking?” The halfbacks will be Christie, Fakatava, Perenara Props; Newell, Bower, Lomax, Tunga'fasi, Hookers; Asosa Amua when fit, Taylor, Samisoni,
12 Go to commentsQuite frankly, all this is a bit pathetic. The first time Wales get the Wooden Spoon in 21 years and everyone is on the bandwagon for a ‘play-off’ game. Wales have no obligation to Georgia and no obligation to the rest of the Six Nations to play such a game. If they want Georgia in so badly then they need to include South Africa into a Northern Hemisphere competition with 2 leagues of 4 teams with the top 2 competing for the Championship. Sadly, this will end Triple Crowns and Grand Slams forever. Is this really what you want?
4 Go to commentsI think Finau to start Blackadder to come on. Poss Prokter instead of Ioane, haven't seen much from Reiko so far this year.
12 Go to commentsJoe will have had a good chat with Dave Rennie, a smart move to begin with while it’s doubtful Fast Eddie will be consulted? Plenty of Aus players hitting top form so they should go OK.
7 Go to commentsMmm. Not sure I like this article or see it as necessary.
8 Go to commentsBlackadder but no Finau! 😀 It’s Razor so you are probably right, plus Taylor at 2…
12 Go to commentsThe strongest possible AB side would actually include Aaron Smith, Bodie Retallick, Sam Whitelock, Leicester Fainga'anuku, Shannon Frizzel.. don’t get me started on the rest of the injury hit brigade that got flung on the heap so left. Many a whole not getting filled as of yet.
12 Go to commentsI don’t think anyone knows what Schmidt will do, one thing is certain it ain’t gonna be all the picks we on the keyboard will think. My impression of him is that he will be looking at who can step up and what is the best combination. He will ignore individuals as he looks for guys who can build a powerful team and not just guys who can make a flashy run or ignore the winger as they want to score themselves.
7 Go to commentsSome dumb selections there. Not Porecki Not Donaldson Not Gordon Not Lonegran - both Not Nic White - Fines instead Not Liam Wright Not Paisami Definitely not Vunivalu Other than that not bad.
7 Go to commentsI've never been convinced that Patty T is a test match all black. Otherwise I probably agree it's the best side available to beat the poms. Caveat that Codie Taylor is yet to be seen and could very likely warrant selection by June. I hope that Razor brings the young loosies, half backs and locks into the training squad and develops/ selects the best
12 Go to commentsYou doing the same thing I disliked about the example of Samisoni Taukei'aho, Nick. He’s great the way he is, you’re trying to do what modern-day coaches frustrate me doing, turning everyone into the perfect athlete. Next thing you’ll be telling me you’ll bench him until he’s hit that arbitrary marker, and can’t overtake the current guy who’s doing all his workons. He’s a young Kieran Read, through and through, plays wide and has threat, mainly (and evident in your clips) through his two hand carry and speed. Just let him work on that, or whatever he wants, and determine his own future. Play God and you risk the players going sideways, like Read did, instead of being a Toutai Kefu. I mean I was in the same camp for a while, wanting our tight five to have the size, and carry ability, as the teams they were getting beat by. Now I’m starting to believe those teams just have better skilled and practiced individuals, bigger by upwards of 5kg sometimes, sure, but more influentially they have those intrinsic skills of trust and awareness. Basically our guys just didn’t know wtf they were doing. Don’t think I’m trying to prove a point here but hasn’t Caleb Clarke been in much better form this year, or does he just ‘look’ better now that he’s not always trying to use his size?
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