1994 World Cup antics: 'Half a pint of vodka went down my throat!'
You’d be hard pressed to find a more charismatic and influential character in helping shape English women’s rugby than Gill Burns.
The former England captain is still heavily involved in the game as the current Lancashire RFU president, working as a rugby administrator and has her fingers in many other rugby-themed pies.
We look back on the former number eight’s career highlights including winning the World Cup with England in 1994, hear how instrumental the former back row player was in finding the original World Cup trophy which disappeared for 15 years and learn about the retired PE teacher of 32 years’ role in setting up Firwood Waterloo Women’s RFC.
Burns begins telling us how she found the sport she has become synonymous with: “My journey with rugby began as newly qualified PE teacher who just loved sport but I began playing hockey.
“At the time I was a big centre forward who scored lots of goals and in a game I ran into somebody who was between myself and the goal who was obstructing me. It wasn’t my fault, but she ended up tumbling to the floor as I ushered her out the way and after I went on and scored the goal I came back to pick her up.
“She then said to me, ‘the way you play hockey, you should be a rugby player’. She said, ‘I’m not being funny. I’m a rugby player and we have a team nearby.’
“I was jogging back to the halfway line and thinking I didn’t know women played. Afterwards I spoke to this same woman in the bar and she said that she played for Liverpool Polytechnic, and anyone who wants to play could join in with them. I just loved the idea of playing rugby.
“This woman told me they trained at Waterloo Rugby Club, so the following Sunday I joined in and immediately knew I’d found the sport for me. Eventually this team led to us setting up Waterloo Women.”
Not uncommon at the time, international players who wanted to play club rugby at a high level, who couldn’t find a club, took it upon themselves to set one up. Well established clubs today such as Saracens Women are in existence due to pioneering former players who took the initiative and wouldn’t’ accept no as an answer. So here lies Burns’ first piece of rugby history, despite Waterloo no longer being part of the top tier Premier 15s, it is proudly playing in Championship North 1.
And there was more history to come…
England’s first World Cup win came in 1994 and Burns has fond memories of the tournament and the celebrations in Edinburgh after.
“Looking back, we got the prize we set out to win. First of all, we made a concerted decision to pay for the best possible hotel to give us a chance to do what we all came to do.
“We said ‘let’s bite the bullet’ and look after ourselves and stay somewhere that will mean we’re comfortable and get a good night’s sleep. During the 1991 World Cup, we stayed in a hotel where we had to leave halfway through the week and we’d all slept in a function room with sleeping bags. For tournaments we were used to staying in youth hostels with bunk beds, it certainly wasn’t luxurious.”
“We were becoming professional with a little ‘p’ and by 1994, the squad were very well drilled, everybody on the park was aware of the game plan and as a squad we were all on the same page.
“One of our group stage matches saw us play Russia and I was asked to captain the team which was such a tremendous honour. I genuinely never dreamed that I’d ever be doing such a thing.
“We knew nothing about Russia in those days. There was no such thing as looking on the internet and finding out. But I thought it might be nice to make a speech in Russian after the game. A friend of Emma Mitchell was a Russian speaker, so I got on the phone and asked them to translate what I wanted to say and learnt the Russian phonetically, trying to write it down on a piece of paper.
“We ended up winning and I gave a post-match speech in very bad Russian, but it made them laugh a lot. Afterwards their coach ran up to me and thrust what I suppose was supposed to be a shot glass but was more like a half pint of vodka down my throat with everyone cheering and laughing. So, either they were very pleased with what I said or pleased it was over!”
“The 1994 tournament was amazing. The best thing about that event was the friendliness of all the teams and people from different countries trying to speak to each other in different languages.
“After we won, I remember the joy of standing amongst a group and teaching them a silly little song, called ‘Cottage in the Wood’ which I knew when I was a small child. You do actions with your arms and your hands so people who couldn’t speak English could join in and I also remember introducing ‘Oops Upside Your Head’ where everyone had to sit on the floor in between the legs of the person behind them and do all the actions.”
It’s fair to say Burns was the orchestrator of the fun and games, but she also lead from the front on the more serious business of locating the original Women’s World Cup trophy which her team won in 1994 when it went missing.
“The last time I’d seen the trophy was in a cabinet in the Twickenham Museum on a school trip. However, the next time I went to Twickenham it wasn’t there. I wondered where it was but in those days the trophy was taken on lots of road trips so I didn’t really ask anybody.
“Then for the 1998 World Cup the IRB (now World Rugby) produced a big shiny new cup which is similar in style to the men’s one and the old cup wasn’t needed. But it just seemed a bit strange that nobody knew where it was!
“And then a few years ago on Twitter, I put a message out and said does anybody know where the World Cup is? But again no one (of my followers anyway!) knew where it was.
Where is the original trophy? #WeNeedPickles pic.twitter.com/JyeeLD1Nl7
— Gill Burns MBE (@Waterloonumber8) September 3, 2014
“Then last year during lockdown, I was back in contact with a few former women’s regional players, and one of the women knew one of the past RFU for Women (RFUW) administrators. It turns out she was clearing out her father’s loft and found one box full of all the minutes of the RFUW’s board meetings, which is very valuable historically, and then in the other box, she said ‘I think it’s the World Cup!’
“It must have been taken to a roadshow and then put in a safe place in the loft out of the way. But after being lost for so many years it was just brilliant that we found it.
“I personally went and handed it over to the curator of Twickenham Museum Phil McGowan for safe keeping!”
And due to Burns’ efforts, the original trophy is currently at the World Rugby Museum in Twickenham on display for everyone to see a real piece of women’s rugby history.
The current World Cup trophy is on its own journey on the 2021 Trophy Tour taking place from April to September 2022, travelling across Aotearoa, New Zealand and the Pacific Islands in lead up to this autumn’s showpiece tournament. No doubt Burns will be one of England’s most enthusiastic supporters as the Red Roses look to bring another trophy back to Twickenham.
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Anna, You are right, we need to have patience whilst the others catch up to England and France. Also it is the PWR that has been the game changer for England. the RFU put money into that initially at the expense of the Red Roses. I was sceptical at first but it has paid off in spades.
1 Go to commentsI think Matt Proctor became a 1 test AB in the same fixture. Cameron is quality and has been great this season, can’t believe’s he only 27. Realistically how would he not be selected for ABs squad this year. Only Dmac is ahead of him as a specialist 10. With Jordan out, it will come down to where and when Beauden Barrett slots back in, and where they want to play Ruben Love. Cameron seems an absolute lock in for the wider squad though. Added benefit of TJ-Cameron-Jordie combination at 9, 10, 11 too.
1 Go to commentsFarcical, to what end would someone want to pay to keep this thing going.
1 Go to commentsHavili, our best 12 by a mile, will be in the squad, if he stays fit. JB is the most overrated AB in the last 50 years.
61 Go to commentsWe had during the week twilight footy, twilight cricket, tw golf plus there was the athletics club. Then the weekend was rugby 15s plus the net ball, really busy club scene back then but so much has changed and rugby has suffered. And it was all about changing lifestyles.
6 Go to commentsIn the 70s and 80s my club ran 5 Senior sides plus a Vets. Now it is 2 sides with an occasional 3rd team. Players have difficulty getting to training now, not sure why and the commitment is not there. It seems to me more a problem of people applying themselves and not expecting to turn up and play whenever they want to.
6 Go to commentsROG’s contract is until 2027. The conversation about a successor to Galthie after RWC 2027 may be starting now. We can infer that Galthie’s reign stops then. He is throwing the Irish Coaching Job angle in because he is Irish. The next Irish coach MUST be Leo Cullen. As well as being the best coach available, coaching the vast majority of Irish Internationals week in week out, he has shown incredible skill at recruiting the best coaching staff for the job in hand. That was a failing in France. Cullen is a shrewd guy and if there is a need for foreign coaches underneath him he won’t hesitate. Rightly so. Ireland does need to start to bring Irish coaches through. Not just at the professional level but we need to train coaches to man new pathways for developing kids from schools/clubs up through the divisions.
8 Go to commentsNo Islam says it must rule where it stands Thus it is to be deleted from this planet Earth
18 Go to commentsThis team probably does not beat the ABs sadly Not sure if BPA will be available given his signing for Force but has to enter consideration. Very strong possibility of getting schooled by the AB props. Advantage AB. Rodda/Skelton would be a tasty locking combination - would love to see how they get on. Advantage Wallabies. Backrow a risk of getting out hustled and outmuscled by ABs. Will be interesting to see if the Blues feast on the Reds this weekend the way they did the Brumbies we are in big trouble at the breakdown. Great energy, running and defence but goalkicking/general kicking/passing quality in the halves bothers me enormously. SA may have won the World Cup for a lot of the tournament without a recognised goalkicker but Pollard in the final made a difference IMO. Injuries and retirements leave AB stocks a bit lighter but still stronger. 12 and 13 ABs shade it (Barret > Paisami, Ione = Ikitau, arguably) Interesting clash of styles on the wings - Corey Toole running around Caleb Clark and Caleb running over the top of Toole. Reece vs Koro probably the reverse. Pretty even IMO. 15s Kelleway = Love See advantage to ABs man for man, but we are not obviously getting slaughtered anywhere which makes a nice change. Think talent wise we are pretty even and if our cohesion and teamwork is better than the ABs then its just about doable.
11 Go to commentsCompletely agree. More friday night games would be a hit. RFU to make sure every club has a floodlit pitch. Club opens again Saturday to welcome touch / tag. Minis and youths on Sunday
6 Go to comments1.97m and 105Kg? Proportionately, probably skinnier than me at 1.82 and 82kilos. He won’t survive against the big guys at that weight.
55 Go to commentsThe value he brought to the crusaders as an assistant was equal to what he got out of being there. He reflected not only on the team culture but also the credit he attributed to the rugby community. Such experience shouldn’t be overlooked.
8 Go to commentsGood luck Aussie
11 Go to commentssmith at 9 / mounga 10 / laumape 12 / fainganuku 14
61 Go to commentsBar the injuries, it’s pretty much their top team …
2 Go to commentsDon’t disagree with much of this but it appears you forgot Rodda and Beale, who started at the Force on the weekend.
11 Go to commentsExcept for the injured Zach Gallagher this would be Saders best forward pack for the season. Blackadder needs to stay at 7, for all of Christies tackling he is not dominant and offers very little else. McNicholfullback is maybe a good option, Fihaki not really upto it, there was a reason Burke played there last year. Maybe Havilli to 2nd five McLeod to wing. Need a strong winger on 1 side to compliment Reece
1 Go to commentsTo me TJ is clearly the best 9 in the competition right now but he's also a proven player off the bench, there's few playmaking players who can come off the bench as calm and settled as he is, Beauden can, TJ can and I doubt any of the scrumhalves in contention can, if they want to experiment with new 9s I want him on the bench ready to step in if they crumble under the pressure. The Boks put their best front row on the bench, I'd like to see us take a similar approach, the Hurricanes have been doing similar things with players like Kirifi.
61 Go to commentsROG has better chance to win a WC if he starts training and make himself eligible as a player. He won’t make the Ireland squad but I reckon he may get close with Namibia (needs to improve his Afrikaans) or Portugal. Both sides had 1000:1 odds to win the RWC in 2023 which is an improvement on ROG’s odds of winning a RWC as a coach. Unlike Top 14 teams, national teams can’t go shopping and buy the best players - you work with the available talent pool and turn them into world beaters.
8 Go to commentsthat backline nope that backline is terrible why would you have sevu Reece when he’s not even top 5 wingers in the comp why have Blackadder when there’s better players no Scott barret isn’t an automatic the guy is more of a liability than anything why have him there when you have samipeni who’s far far better
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