'Why wasn't Malcolm Marx out there?': Kiwi pundits question Boks selections
New Zealand pundits have questioned the decision to bench star hooker Malcolm Marx for the second test against the All Blacks after their defeat in Johannesburg.
The 50-cap Springbok was influential last week at disrupting the breakdown coming up with three critical turnovers that disrupted the All Blacks ball.
With regular hooker Bongi Mbonambi also out injured, the Springboks gave the start to Joseph Dweba who was playing just his third test match.
Former Blues and Leinster midfielder Isa Nacewa said on Sky Sport NZ’s The Breakdown that the surprising decision likely came back to South Africa’s quota system.
“Why wasn’t Malcolm Marx out there from the get go? This probably goes back to the quota system that they have,” Nacewa told The Breakdown.
“Bongi Mbonambi got injured but how do you not have Marx on the field? His impact came immediately when he got on the field.
“It is a pretty intricate and condeluded system they have, probably second-to-none in the world around how the actually select there team.
“They know very early on in the week when the team is named and there is a rigour-more with process that actually goes through that.
“But someone like Malcolm Marx and the influence that he has, you have got to have him on the field.”
Dweba’s shaky start included a miscue at the lineout with his first throw pinched just moments into the game after an All Blacks error sent the ball into touch.
After the Springboks failed to gain total ascendency at the scrum, Dweba was substituted half an hour into the game for Marx while starting props Ox Nche and Frans Malherbe were benched shortly afterward as well.
Springboks head coach Jacques Nienaber explained the call to pull Dweba as ‘privileged’ information but did say there is always a rugby reason behind the substitutions.
With a 6-2 bench split, he said they have the players to utillise and will always make the decision if they feel the job is done or not being done to a standard required.
“There’s always a reason – a rugby reason why we did that, but that’s privileged,” Nienaber said.
“The players all know [the reason]. Every single player knows why we went that route and there’s a very logical reason why we did that.”
“Like I’ve said before, players have a specific job to do and the moment they’ve done their job or they’re not doing their job anymore, that’s when we take them off.”
“The moment we see a drop in that, because we have six forwards on the bench, we will do the substitution.
“And I think that’s where we differ from other teams. We do things a little bit differently.”
On the other side the All Blacks rolled the dice with a younger front row that stood up and held their own, bringing in two new starting props from the side that lost in Mbombela.
Ethan de Groot at loosehead was playing his sixth test, hooker Samisoni Taukei’aho had 12 tests and tighthead Tyrel Lomax had 15 tests before Saturday’s match. Young Crusaders prop Fletcher Newell made his test debut from the bench.
The inexperienced front row unit was praised by captain Sam Cane and head coach Ian Foster for their performances.
“For those guys to start in that test match, without a doubt the biggest test that they’ve had in their careers,” Cane said.
“To perform the way they did was awesome. I’m really stoked for those guys, it makes for some really healthy competition going forward.”
Foster said the team has been working hard to fix their set-piece which he revealed has been a problem for five seasons
“You have to play well in that space. And to be honest, it’s probably been our Achilles heel in recent years going back to 2018 when it started,” Foster said.
“We’ve been working hard in that space. There was some new players in that space that were pretty special. Ethan de Groot is not brand new but I was really proud of his game today.
“Tyrel Lomax, first start in a big test for him and the likes of a Fletcher Newell, a superb young man, what a place to play your debut.”
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Bold headline considering the Canes and Blues are 1 and 2 and the Brumbies were soundly beaten by the Chiefs and Blues. Biggest surprise is Rebels 4 Crusaders 12 - no one saw that coming. If Aus are improving that’s great 👍
1 Go to commentsAnna, You are right, we need to have patience whilst the others catch up to England and France. Also it is the PWR that has been the game changer for England. the RFU put money into that initially at the expense of the Red Roses. I was sceptical at first but it has paid off in spades.
1 Go to commentsI think Matt Proctor became a 1 test AB in the same fixture. Cameron is quality and has been great this season, can’t believe’s he only 27. Realistically how would he not be selected for ABs squad this year. Only Dmac is ahead of him as a specialist 10. With Jordan out, it will come down to where and when Beauden Barrett slots back in, and where they want to play Ruben Love. Cameron seems an absolute lock in for the wider squad though. Added benefit of TJ-Cameron-Jordie combination at 9, 10, 11 too.
1 Go to commentsFarcical, to what end would someone want to pay to keep this thing going.
1 Go to commentsHavili, our best 12 by a mile, will be in the squad, if he stays fit. JB is the most overrated AB in the last 50 years.
61 Go to commentsWe had during the week twilight footy, twilight cricket, tw golf plus there was the athletics club. Then the weekend was rugby 15s plus the net ball, really busy club scene back then but so much has changed and rugby has suffered. And it was all about changing lifestyles.
6 Go to commentsIn the 70s and 80s my club ran 5 Senior sides plus a Vets. Now it is 2 sides with an occasional 3rd team. Players have difficulty getting to training now, not sure why and the commitment is not there. It seems to me more a problem of people applying themselves and not expecting to turn up and play whenever they want to.
6 Go to commentsROG’s contract is until 2027. The conversation about a successor to Galthie after RWC 2027 may be starting now. We can infer that Galthie’s reign stops then. He is throwing the Irish Coaching Job angle in because he is Irish. The next Irish coach MUST be Leo Cullen. As well as being the best coach available, coaching the vast majority of Irish Internationals week in week out, he has shown incredible skill at recruiting the best coaching staff for the job in hand. That was a failing in France. Cullen is a shrewd guy and if there is a need for foreign coaches underneath him he won’t hesitate. Rightly so. Ireland does need to start to bring Irish coaches through. Not just at the professional level but we need to train coaches to man new pathways for developing kids from schools/clubs up through the divisions.
8 Go to commentsNo Islam says it must rule where it stands Thus it is to be deleted from this planet Earth
18 Go to commentsThis team probably does not beat the ABs sadly Not sure if BPA will be available given his signing for Force but has to enter consideration. Very strong possibility of getting schooled by the AB props. Advantage AB. Rodda/Skelton would be a tasty locking combination - would love to see how they get on. Advantage Wallabies. Backrow a risk of getting out hustled and outmuscled by ABs. Will be interesting to see if the Blues feast on the Reds this weekend the way they did the Brumbies we are in big trouble at the breakdown. Great energy, running and defence but goalkicking/general kicking/passing quality in the halves bothers me enormously. SA may have won the World Cup for a lot of the tournament without a recognised goalkicker but Pollard in the final made a difference IMO. Injuries and retirements leave AB stocks a bit lighter but still stronger. 12 and 13 ABs shade it (Barret > Paisami, Ione = Ikitau, arguably) Interesting clash of styles on the wings - Corey Toole running around Caleb Clark and Caleb running over the top of Toole. Reece vs Koro probably the reverse. Pretty even IMO. 15s Kelleway = Love See advantage to ABs man for man, but we are not obviously getting slaughtered anywhere which makes a nice change. Think talent wise we are pretty even and if our cohesion and teamwork is better than the ABs then its just about doable.
11 Go to commentsCompletely agree. More friday night games would be a hit. RFU to make sure every club has a floodlit pitch. Club opens again Saturday to welcome touch / tag. Minis and youths on Sunday
6 Go to comments1.97m and 105Kg? Proportionately, probably skinnier than me at 1.82 and 82kilos. He won’t survive against the big guys at that weight.
55 Go to commentsThe value he brought to the crusaders as an assistant was equal to what he got out of being there. He reflected not only on the team culture but also the credit he attributed to the rugby community. Such experience shouldn’t be overlooked.
8 Go to commentsGood luck Aussie
11 Go to commentssmith at 9 / mounga 10 / laumape 12 / fainganuku 14
61 Go to commentsBar the injuries, it’s pretty much their top team …
2 Go to commentsDon’t disagree with much of this but it appears you forgot Rodda and Beale, who started at the Force on the weekend.
11 Go to commentsExcept for the injured Zach Gallagher this would be Saders best forward pack for the season. Blackadder needs to stay at 7, for all of Christies tackling he is not dominant and offers very little else. McNicholfullback is maybe a good option, Fihaki not really upto it, there was a reason Burke played there last year. Maybe Havilli to 2nd five McLeod to wing. Need a strong winger on 1 side to compliment Reece
1 Go to commentsTo me TJ is clearly the best 9 in the competition right now but he's also a proven player off the bench, there's few playmaking players who can come off the bench as calm and settled as he is, Beauden can, TJ can and I doubt any of the scrumhalves in contention can, if they want to experiment with new 9s I want him on the bench ready to step in if they crumble under the pressure. The Boks put their best front row on the bench, I'd like to see us take a similar approach, the Hurricanes have been doing similar things with players like Kirifi.
61 Go to commentsROG has better chance to win a WC if he starts training and make himself eligible as a player. He won’t make the Ireland squad but I reckon he may get close with Namibia (needs to improve his Afrikaans) or Portugal. Both sides had 1000:1 odds to win the RWC in 2023 which is an improvement on ROG’s odds of winning a RWC as a coach. Unlike Top 14 teams, national teams can’t go shopping and buy the best players - you work with the available talent pool and turn them into world beaters.
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