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Wallaroos captain reacts to 7s players’ bold bid for 15s World Cup spots

Australia players celebrate after the team's victory as WXV 2 champions and qualification for the 2025 World Cup during the WXV 2 2024 match between Australia v Scotland at Athlone Sports Stadium on October 12, 2024 in Cape Town, South Africa. (Photo by Johan Rynners - World Rugby/World Rugby via Getty Images)

Australia captain Michaela Leonard has opened up about Thursday’s major announcement which is both exciting and scary for Wallaroos players going into a Rugby World Cup year. Before the showpiece event, a group of HSBC SVNS Series players will push their case for 15s selection.

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Rugby Australia revealed that nine players from the world-renowned women’s sevens side had committed to Super Rugby Women’s teams. Demi Hayes, Tia Hinds, and Bienne Terita have all linked with the ACT Brumbies, while Sariah Paki is off to the NSW Waratahs.

Reigning World Rugby Sevens Player of the Year Maddison Levi headlines a five-woman strong group that’s heading to Brisbane’s Ballymore to join the Queensland Reds. Maddison joins younger sister Teagan, Charlotte Caslick, Isabella Nasser, and Khali Henwood at the club.

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All nine players are still set to ply their trade on the international sevens circuit in 2025, but a four-week gap between stops in Vancouver and Hong Kong China should allow the cross-code converts to play about two matches for their respective Super Rugby Women’s sides.

As rugby fans have already seen with Ilona Maher signing with Bristol Bears in England’s Premiership Women’s Rugby, these big name additions can be significant for piquing interest in domestic competitions before the Women’s Rugby World Cup later in the year.

“I think it’s definitely huge in that list of names there’s Olympians, there’s incredible athletes, there’s a whole lot of rugby knowledge and experience,” Leonard told RugbyPass on Friday.

“It’s super huge for us as a Wallaroos group that one, players and athletes of that calibre are interested in challenging themselves to be part of the 15s game and putting their hand up to be part of what’s been a pretty special group this year and looking into a World Cup year next year is pretty special.

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“It’s incredibly exciting for us too to be able to build the depth of our group, have a harder selection pool, a harder selection pool to select players from.

“That much opportunity to welcome some pretty phenomenal rugby athletes into our environment and take over the best team that we can into the World Cup next year.”

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Thursday’s announcement was an exciting one, considering the world-class skillsets all of these nine players have shown in the world of rugby sevens. But rugby’s 15-a-side format is a very different game, which has prompted mixed results for those jumping between the codes.

New Zealand’s Stacey Waaka, Portia Woodman-Wickliffe, Sarah Hirini, and Theresa Setefano have all been highly successful in switching from sevens to 15s and back again. In the last World Cup Final in 2022, ‘smiling assassin’ Waaka was one of the standouts, as was Hirini.

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But that doesn’t mean this is going to be an easy transition by any means. The Levi sisters, Caslick, Paki and some of the others have never played 15s rugby before, and they might only have two matches in SR Women’s to prove themselves worthy of a Wallaroos call-up.

Australia finished their first international season under coach Jo Yapp with three wins on the bounce, which saw captain Leonard lift the first major trophy in the team’s history at WXV 2 in Cape Town. They got the better of Wales, South Africa and a then-undefeated Scotland side.

Wingers Desiree Miller and Maya Stewart both proved themselves among the sport’s elite in terms of their try-scoring ability, and then there are the likes of Georgina Friedrichs and Cecilia Smith who are highly experienced in the team’s midfield.

It’s going to be an almighty challenge for these sevens stars to shine in 15s rugby, but it’s also a “scary” position for some Wallaroos to be in as they venture into the unknown next year – soon to be locked in a battle to retain their spots with some players who have never played the sport.

“I have no doubts at all with the people that we have and the culture that we have within our group that it’s going to be a welcoming environment for those girls to come into,” Leonard went on to explain.

“Looking at positions, and I guess that element of dread or unknown is probably a slightly easier one to talk to as a tight five forward, but I think being the pinnacle of our sport at a World Cup and wanting to do our nation proud, to represent our country… we all want to see the team succeed.

“Particularly looking to a World Cup year, you want to be able to select from the best athletes you can to put out there on the field. You want that selection process to be hard, you want there to be a really healthy competition in camps, in games, in that environment with everyone striving to earn that jersey and earn a place in that 23.

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“There’s obviously that element of unknown and that can always be scary and you’re never sure how things are going to work out or what it’s going to end up like until it happens.

“I have no doubts at all that the people in our group and the culture we’ve created over the last few years within the Wallaroos will remain strong and I think that’ll be a big part of forming a team.

“You don’t always form selection based on just purely individual skill or talent, it’s how that collective works and with 15s you need 23, you need 30 people that work really well together. I’m sure that’ll come into play as well.

“In the end and when we get into it next year post-Super W, it’ll be really exciting and I think all of the girls will accept the challenge and take it head on to say, ‘Welcome for one, we’re excited to have you here, we’re really excited to see what you bring to this environment but… this is what Wallaroos is all about, this is what it takes to train to play in this environment’.”


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JW 17 minutes ago
How law changes are speeding up the game - but the scrum lags behind

so what's the point?

A deep question!


First, the point would be you wouldn't have a share of those penalities if you didn't choose good scrummers right.


So having incentive to scrummaging well gives more space in the field through having less mobile players.


This balance is what we always strive to come back to being the focus of any law change right.


So to bring that back to some of the points in this article, if changing the current 'offense' structure of scrums, to say not penalizing a team that's doing their utmost to hold up the scrum (allowing play to continue even if they did finally succumb to collapsing or w/e for example), how are we going to stop that from creating a situation were a coach can prioritize the open play abilities of their tight five, sacrificing pure scrummaging, because they won't be overly punished by having a weak scrum?


But to get back on topic, yes, that balance is too skewed, the prevalence has been too much/frequent.


At the highest level, with the best referees and most capable props, it can play out appealingly well. As you go down the levels, the coaching of tactics seems to remain high, but the ability of the players to adapt and hold their scrum up against that guy boring, or the skill of the ref in determining what the cause was and which of those two to penalize, quickly degrades the quality of the contest and spectacle imo (thank good european rugby left that phase behind!)


Personally I have some very drastic changes in mind for the game that easily remedy this prpblem (as they do for all circumstances), but the scope of them is too great to bring into this context (some I have brought in were applicable), and without them I can only resolve to come up with lots of 'finicky' like those here. It is easy to understand why there is reluctance in their uptake.


I also think it is very folly of WR to try and create this 'perfect' picture of simple laws that can be used to cover all aspects of the game, like 'a game to be played on your feet' etc, and not accept it needs lots of little unique laws like these. I'd be really happy to create some arbitrary advantage for the scrum victors (similar angle to yours), like if you can make your scrum go forward, that resets the offside line from being the ball to the back foot etc, so as to create a way where your scrum wins a foot be "5 meters back" from the scrum becomes 7, or not being able to advance forward past the offisde line (attack gets a free run at you somehow, or devide the field into segments and require certain numbers to remain in the other sgements (like the 30m circle/fielders behind square requirements in cricket). If you're defending and you go forward then not just is your 9 still allowed to harras the opposition but the backline can move up from the 5m line to the scrum line or something.


Make it a real mini game, take your solutions and making them all circumstantial. Having differences between quick ball or ball held in longer, being able to go forward, or being pushed backwards, even to where the scrum stops and the ref puts his arm out in your favour. Think of like a quick tap scenario, but where theres no tap. If the defending team collapses the scrum in honest attempt (even allow the attacking side to collapse it after gong forward) the ball can be picked up (by say the eight) who can run forward without being allowed to be tackled until he's past the back of the scrum for example. It's like a little mini picture of where the defence is scrambling back onside after a quick tap was taken.


The purpose/intent (of any such gimmick) is that it's going to be so much harder to stop his momentum, and subsequent tempo, that it's a really good advantage for having such a powerful scrum. No change of play to a lineout or blowing of the whistle needed.

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JW 1 hour ago
How law changes are speeding up the game - but the scrum lags behind

Very good, now we are getting somewhere (though you still didn't answer the question but as you're a South African I think we can all assume what the answer would be if you did lol)! Now let me ask you another question, and once you've answered that to yourself, you can ask yourself a followup question, to witch I'm intrigued to know the answer.


Well maybe more than a couple of questions, just to be clear. What exactly did this penalty stop you from doing the the first time that you want to try again? What was this offence that stopped you doing it? Then ask yourself how often would this occur in the game. Now, thinking about the regularity of it and compare it to how it was/would be used throughout the rest of the game (in cases other than the example you gave/didn't give for some unknown reason).


What sort of balance did you find?


Now, we don't want to complicate things further by bringing into the discussion points Bull raised like 'entirety' or 'replaced with a ruck', so instead I'll agree that if we use this article as a trigger to expanding our opinions/thoughts, why not allow a scrum to be reset if that is what they(you) want? Stopping the clock for it greatly removes the need to stop 5 minutes of scrum feeds happening. Fixing the law interpretations (not incorrectly rewarding the dominant team) and reducing the amount of offences that result in a penalty would greatly reduce the amount of repeat scrums in the first place. And now that refs a card happy, when a penalty offence is committed it's going to be far more likely it results in the loss of a player, then the loss of scrums completely and instead having a 15 on 13 advantage for the scrum dominant team to then run their opposition ragged. So why not take the scrum again (maybe you've already asked yourself that question by now)?


It will kind be like a Power Play in Hockey. Your outlook here is kind of going to depend on your understanding of what removing repeat scrums was put in place for, but I'm happy the need for it is gone in a new world order. As I've said on every discussion on this topic, scrums are great, it is just what they result in that hasn't been. Remove the real problem and scrum all you like. The All Blacks will love zapping that energy out of teams.

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