The warning from history this Ireland side can't ignore going into a World Cup year
Joe Schmidt’s hint that he just might be leaving Ireland at the end of the 2019 World Cup wasn’t the only post-match quip to catch the eye when the curtain came down on Saturday on the November Test window.
Over in London, a line arrived from England’s Eddie Jones that should help keep Schmidt and his players fully on their toes between now and the eagerly-awaited tournament in Japan. ‘You can be the best team now and not win the World Cup,’ warned the English coach.
Very true.
Regardless of what materialises in the upcoming Six Nations, Ireland will travel to Japan heaped with an expectation far in excess of the excess hype they travelled with to the 2007 edition… and every Irish supporter frighteningly knows what happened on that occasion in France.
After obliterating both South Africa and Australia in November 2006, Eddie O’Sullivan was suddenly fielding questions about Ireland lifting the trophy 11 months later. This giddiness didn’t dim with the loss of the championship title to France on points difference. It only ramped up further.
However, rather than create history, Ireland arrived home prematurely from the finals, their berets rammed between their tails after they were embarrassingly knocked out at the pool stages. Meanwhile, the South Africans, whom they had buried the previous autumn in Dublin, went the whole way and lifted the trophy.
It’s a painful history lesson every Irish fan must not forget in this run-up to Japan 2019. Nothing in set in stone just because of what a team does the previous November, so stones on the road can be very much expected.
It’s one thing going undefeated in a four-game November programme mostly played in Dublin, quite another aspiring to go seven weeks undefeated in a country as unfamiliar as Japan will be.
That said, Ireland are shaping up nicely. It was lack of squad depth that left Schmidt all at sea at England 2015. The coach was unable to cope at the quarter-final stage minus injured quartet Paul O’Connell, Peter O’Mahony, Johnny Sexton and Jared Payne while Sean O’Brien was suspended.
Three years later, he has taken great strides to lay foundations to ensure Ireland won’t be as exposed again if that type of major emergency materialises.
Ireland’s four-match November programme was the equivalent of a World Cup pool and their dry-run was a useful exercise with the challenge of Scotland, Japan, Russia and Samoa in mind. Thirty-five players were given starts, six more capped as replacements. There were three debutants, Schmidt’s appetite to have a fresh look remaining healthy.
This squad is now very definitely his own. Unlike in 2015, when he travelled with a selection that was much inherited from the previous regime, only a dozen of the 41 players that played this month were capped before he took over in November 2013.
With a World Cup campaign in mind, it was pleasing to see the curveballs tossed their way in recent weeks dealt with efficiently.
Look at how there was no loss of midfield focus with Robbie Henshaw a last-minute withdrawal against Argentina. How there was no back row panic with seeing the luckless O’Brien bundled out of the series with a broken arm versus the Pumas.
And how there was no big drama that Dan Leavy had to cry off from the No7 berth to face the All Blacks. Josh van der Flier stepped up at the captain’s run and didn’t flinch from the gargantuan responsibility he was suddenly handed.
Certain positions still demand more attention than others, though. None more so than out-half given how Ireland went from Ian Madigan’s tears of joy to tears of despair in the space of seven 2015 days in Cardiff.
The back-up No10 had the high of successfully stepping off the bench for Johnny Sexton against France followed by the career low of starting against Argentina and not being able to exert the necessary play-making influence.
Madigan’s club situation was to blame, his lack of match time as Leinster out-half leaving him underprepared when handed the keys of the Ireland kingdom.
Lesson learned, it was Schmidt who levered Joey Carbery out of Leinster last summer to ensure he would get ample time as Munster No10. That is exposure now consolidated in the Test arena, the youngster being just one of two players in the Ireland November squad to appear in all four matches (Luke McGrath the other).
Having Carbery up to speed in case of a Sexton emergency is of paramount importance, but there is still work to be done. Carbery’s involvement in the big two against Argentina and New Zealand was only fleeting, so there is a debate to be had about giving him a Six Nations start to further ramp up his experience. The round three fixture away to Italy in Rome at the end of February is a perfect opportunity to give him a first championship start.
Conor Murray’s November absence can now also be considered a blessing in disguise. In Schmidt’s 58 games prior to this month, the Sexton/Murray partnership had been relied on to start on 36 occasions, so the sight of Sexton twice pairing up with Kieran Marmion, a player he had only ever started with once before, was another step forward in positively bringing the squad along.
Other excellent developments were the continued growth of fearless young duo James Ryan and Jacob Stockdale. They have each become inspiring players in a short space of time, standout examples to the multiple rookies Schmidt now has on his books as to what can be quickly achieved if the hard work is put in.
Important, too, was Niall Scannell’s on-going emergence as the starting back-up No2 to Rory Best, the veteran whose place at the top of the pecking order is secure.
With so many resources, Schmidt will have a few headaches cutting his choices down to the permitted 31 for Japan and the way he selects through the Six Nations will be intriguing. Does he go all out with his best team every week or mix it up as if it is a World Cup assignment?
He will spend his winter satisfied that most of the November stats stacked up nicely. Four wins for a 100 per cent record. Twenty tries scored, just four conceded. Forty-one clean breaks created, just 19 given up.
An immaculate scrum, with all 27 won; excellent discipline of just 19 penalties conceded in 320 card-less minutes, unlike the opposition who gave up 40.
Only the lineout, where eight throws were lost, was a cause for concern, particularly the pressure it comes under when its prime jumpers and hooker Best have been replaced near the end of a big game.
That’s a teaser to mull over, but it’s a nice one for Schmidt to have after his team came through a November programme undefeated for the third time in his fifth – and likely last – autumn series.
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Results probably skewed by the fact that a few clubs have foreign fly halves in their 30s, but most teams have young English scrum halves. Results also likely to be skewed by the fact that many teams rely on centres and fullbacks to provide depth at 10, whereas they will need to stock a large number of specialist backup 9s.
1 Go to commentsI really get the sense that when all is said and done, the path of least resistance will end up being a merger of Wasps & Worcester that essentially kills the Worcester Warriors brand and sees Wasps permanently playing at Sixways. I’m not saying that’s what should happen or what I want to happen. I just think it’s the easiest rout to take and therefore, will be what happens. Wasps will definitely return to play first, and I suppose it all depends on if they can find support at Sixways. If people turn up and support Wasps in that community, at that ground, I bet they drop the Sevenoaks plan and just remain at Sixways. Under the radar but not totally unrelated, it looks as though London Irish are going to be brought back from the dead by a German consortium and look set to return, likely to the remade Championship. It’s set to have 12 clubs next season with 14 in 2025/26, what do you want to bet those extra 2 are Wasps and London Irish?
1 Go to commentsThe shoulder is a “joint” with multiple bones. You don’t “fracture” a shoulder, you fracture any one or more of the bones that make up a shoulder.
2 Go to commentsOh dear, bones too suspect to continue?
2 Go to commentsBold headline considering the Canes and Blues are 1 and 2 and the Brumbies were soundly beaten by the Chiefs and Blues. Biggest surprise is Rebels 4 Crusaders 12 - no one saw that coming. If Aus are improving that’s great 👍
1 Go to commentsAnna, You are right, we need to have patience whilst the others catch up to England and France. Also it is the PWR that has been the game changer for England. the RFU put money into that initially at the expense of the Red Roses. I was sceptical at first but it has paid off in spades.
1 Go to commentsI think Matt Proctor became a 1 test AB in the same fixture. Cameron is quality and has been great this season, can’t believe’s he only 27. Realistically how would he not be selected for ABs squad this year. Only Dmac is ahead of him as a specialist 10. With Jordan out, it will come down to where and when Beauden Barrett slots back in, and where they want to play Ruben Love. Cameron seems an absolute lock in for the wider squad though. Added benefit of TJ-Cameron-Jordie combination at 9, 10, 11 too.
1 Go to commentsFarcical, to what end would someone want to pay to keep this thing going.
1 Go to commentsHavili, our best 12 by a mile, will be in the squad, if he stays fit. JB is the most overrated AB in the last 50 years.
61 Go to commentsWe had during the week twilight footy, twilight cricket, tw golf plus there was the athletics club. Then the weekend was rugby 15s plus the net ball, really busy club scene back then but so much has changed and rugby has suffered. And it was all about changing lifestyles.
6 Go to commentsIn the 70s and 80s my club ran 5 Senior sides plus a Vets. Now it is 2 sides with an occasional 3rd team. Players have difficulty getting to training now, not sure why and the commitment is not there. It seems to me more a problem of people applying themselves and not expecting to turn up and play whenever they want to.
6 Go to commentsROG’s contract is until 2027. The conversation about a successor to Galthie after RWC 2027 may be starting now. We can infer that Galthie’s reign stops then. He is throwing the Irish Coaching Job angle in because he is Irish. The next Irish coach MUST be Leo Cullen. As well as being the best coach available, coaching the vast majority of Irish Internationals week in week out, he has shown incredible skill at recruiting the best coaching staff for the job in hand. That was a failing in France. Cullen is a shrewd guy and if there is a need for foreign coaches underneath him he won’t hesitate. Rightly so. Ireland does need to start to bring Irish coaches through. Not just at the professional level but we need to train coaches to man new pathways for developing kids from schools/clubs up through the divisions.
8 Go to commentsNo Islam says it must rule where it stands Thus it is to be deleted from this planet Earth
18 Go to commentsThis team probably does not beat the ABs sadly Not sure if BPA will be available given his signing for Force but has to enter consideration. Very strong possibility of getting schooled by the AB props. Advantage AB. Rodda/Skelton would be a tasty locking combination - would love to see how they get on. Advantage Wallabies. Backrow a risk of getting out hustled and outmuscled by ABs. Will be interesting to see if the Blues feast on the Reds this weekend the way they did the Brumbies we are in big trouble at the breakdown. Great energy, running and defence but goalkicking/general kicking/passing quality in the halves bothers me enormously. SA may have won the World Cup for a lot of the tournament without a recognised goalkicker but Pollard in the final made a difference IMO. Injuries and retirements leave AB stocks a bit lighter but still stronger. 12 and 13 ABs shade it (Barret > Paisami, Ione = Ikitau, arguably) Interesting clash of styles on the wings - Corey Toole running around Caleb Clark and Caleb running over the top of Toole. Reece vs Koro probably the reverse. Pretty even IMO. 15s Kelleway = Love See advantage to ABs man for man, but we are not obviously getting slaughtered anywhere which makes a nice change. Think talent wise we are pretty even and if our cohesion and teamwork is better than the ABs then its just about doable.
11 Go to commentsCompletely agree. More friday night games would be a hit. RFU to make sure every club has a floodlit pitch. Club opens again Saturday to welcome touch / tag. Minis and youths on Sunday
6 Go to comments1.97m and 105Kg? Proportionately, probably skinnier than me at 1.82 and 82kilos. He won’t survive against the big guys at that weight.
56 Go to commentsThe value he brought to the crusaders as an assistant was equal to what he got out of being there. He reflected not only on the team culture but also the credit he attributed to the rugby community. Such experience shouldn’t be overlooked.
8 Go to commentsGood luck Aussie
11 Go to commentssmith at 9 / mounga 10 / laumape 12 / fainganuku 14
61 Go to commentsBar the injuries, it’s pretty much their top team …
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