'I'll never forget my first game back... Christ, what have I left NZ for?'
James Haskell fears more clubs in the Gallagher Premiership are going to suffer the same fate as Worcester Warriors and Wasps as “no one can make a decision” to initiate any change.
Worcester and Wasps have both been suspended by the Premiership over the last month after going into administration, and with concerns mounting that other sides in league are in a similar financial state, Haskell is part of a growing number of people calling for changes to be made to English rugby’s structure.
The former flanker helped launch the RFU’s ‘Play Together, Stay Together’ campaign this week, which encourages as many players as possible back to rugby after Covid. The RFU, alongside The Good, The Bad & The Rugby, hosted a Haskell XV versus Tindall XV match on Thursday using ‘Game On’ rules, with an array of former internationals on either side.
Haskell, who was coaching his side, spoke to RugbyPass before the match, where he discussed his former club Wasps, his time at the club and the future of the Premiership.
With 167 members of staff made redundant this week, including plenty of his former teammates, the Premiership winner suggested special dispensations should be made this season to ensure players are without a club.
“I spoke to Joe Launchbury and he’s like everybody, devastated,” the 37-year-old said. “I think it’s kind of the shock in regards to what do these players do now? The salary cap has been reduced, where do the players go? I think there’s got to be a look into maybe some of these guys sitting outside the salary cap for this season to get them some game time, and then restructure next year. Because there just isn’t the space to pay a lot of the guys who have obviously got mortgages and families. You’ve got Jack Willis in the England squad and he’s got no club.
“I don’t know in Wasps’ case how they managed for it to happen like that – they had a perfectly good stadium, with a vehicle for conferencing and music and somehow they managed to do it. They created that ridiculous, stupid bond and that’s blown the whole thing up really.”
The 77-cap flanker had two stints at Wasps, with his second ending in bitter fashion in 2018 after a string of broken promises from owner Derek Richardson following their move to Coventry, which culminated in a candid confrontation between the pair weeks before Haskell left for Northampton Saints. Some of those promises did get fulfilled once he had left, which has now led to a “nightmare” situation.
“As I said in my book, What a Flanker, they didn’t make an offer as the owner got very upset when I told him all the problems,” he said.
“Obviously, as it’s documented, I had to take the team on strike while I was playing because boys weren’t getting paid, generators were running out of fuel, we were in some of the worst training facilities for a professional team, all the cars got broken into every away game, just a catalogue of stuff over and over and over again. We just weren’t listened to. And I told it to him and he just didn’t want to listen and ultimately that’s why we had to take drastic measures.
“They were talking about building this training facility for seven years, signing players off the back of doing it and just never built it, never did anything they were supposed to apart from in the last year-and-a-half, which is a nightmare because now a Championship side is going to have the best training facilities the world has ever seen.”
Despite his unpleasant departure from Wasps, Haskell refrained from twisting the knife amid the criticism directed at Richardson at the moment, saying he initially “saved the day.” Even during his trophy-laden first spell at Wasps between 2002 and 2009, Haskell said in his book that the club’s finances seemed “precarious.” When he returned in 2012, the two-time European champions had only just staved off going into administration after being bailed out by a consortium. Richardson became the principal shareholder a year later, but Haskell feels some grave errors were made later on.
“The writing was on the wall for a long time for Wasps,” he said. “I wouldn’t have said that it was going to go down the pan in such a drastic way. But in my two different stints, it was going into administration before and it was saved through a set of really hooky deals and its delaying and procrastination actually saved the club because then Derek Richardson came in and saved the day. Derek went from hero to zero really. If it wasn’t for him the club would have died, it would have gone into administration before. But the writing was always on the wall.
“I’ll never forget my first game back for Wasps, the sponsors’ dinner was four or five tables at a Holiday Inn in Marlow with the prizes an out-of-date shirt, from three years ago, and a slightly damaged box of Rebellion Mutiny beer. That was the extent of the sponsors’ evening and I thought ‘Christ, what have I left New Zealand for?’ Derek came in and saved the day and bought us this fantastic multi-purpose facility with conferencing and music and all these bits and pieces, which should have kept this tided over, as that is the only way rugby clubs are going to survive now. But then, like every man in business, or lots of in rugby, he tried to be clever and they set this bond up and I think obviously it was a way to get money back out the club and refinance, but that’s ultimately what blew the whole thing up. I might be wrong, there might be other reasons for that, but I’m pretty sure the £35 million bond that can’t be refinanced would have been the death knell.”
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With two sides already gone from the Premiership this season after only six rounds, Haskell fears more will follow in the near future, which is why urgent changes need to be made to the entire structure in England. One idea that is certainly gaining traction at the moment is central contracts of England players, something that the 2017 British & Irish Lions tourist is in favour of.
Having gained a taste of a variety of different leagues and structures during his playing career, representing Stade Francais in the Top 14, the Ricoh Black Rams in Japan and the Highlanders in Super Rugby, Haskell has first hand experience of the franchise system in New Zealand, which he feels England could copy.
“I think it’s a good idea if you could set up franchises,” he said. “At the moment rugby needs to change because it needs to be sustainable. It needs to become an entertainment business like the NFL, which is a great model for that. I think we need a central controller, central contracts with someone in charge. We need everything to feed into making a really strong union side, a really strong Premiership, we need to focus on derbies, we need to get rid of all these tournaments that no one cares about. Have the European tournament or the Premiership, or make just one league- France, England and Ireland, whatever, put something together that makes perfect sense. But unfortunately, no one can make a decision, no one can do anything. It’s a shame because I think what will happen is, change will be forced like it is at the moment. But I think more clubs are going to go.
“The problem with the Premiership is you’ve got twelve owners, or however many owners it is, that are all self-interested, and it’s not very clear who’s in charge, and I think that means the England team suffers because of that. I think the franchise model in New Zealand is good and works very well. Obviously, you’re talking very different sums of money, but Aaron Smith at the Highlanders is an example. The maximum I think his franchise would pay was $250k and then NZR then pick up the other half of your contract. It means you get control, you get better the holidays, you get looked after better.”
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excellent idea ! rugby needs this 💪
9 Go to comments9 Brumbies! What a joke! The best performing team in Oz! Ditch Skelton for Swain or Neville. Ryan Lonergan ahead of McDermott any day! Best selection bolter is Toole … amazing player
12 Go to commentsI like this, but ultimately rugby already has enough trophies. Trying to make more games “consequential" might prove to be a fools errand, although this is a less bad idea than some others. Minor quibble with the title of the article; it isn’t very meaningful to say the boks are the unofficial world champions when it would be functionally impossible for the Raeburn trophy not to be held by the world champions. There’s a period of a few months every 4 years when there is no “unofficial” world champion, and the Raeburn trophy is held by the actual world champions.
9 Go to commentsIts a great idea but one that I dont think will have a lot of traction. It will depend on the prestige that they each hold but if you can do that it would be great. When Japan beat the Boks (my team) I was absolutely devestated but I wont deny the great game they played that day. We were outclassed and it was one of the best games of rugby I have seen. Using an idea like this you might just give the the underdog teams more of an opportunity to beat the big teams and I can absolutely see it being a brilliant display of rugby. They beat us because they planned for that game. It was a great moment for Japan. This way we can remove the 4 year wait and give teams something to aim for outside of World Cup years.
9 Go to commentsHi, Dave here. Happy to answer questions 🥰
9 Go to commentsDon’t think that headline is accurate. It’s great to see Aus doing better but I’m not sure they’ve shown much threat to the top of the table. They shouldn’t be inflating wins against the lousy Highlanders and Crusaders either.
3 Go to commentsSuch a shame Roigard and Aumua picked up long term injuries, probably the two form players in the comp. Also, pretty sure Clarke Dermody isn’t their coach. Got it half right though.
3 Go to commentsOh the Aussie media, they never learn. At least Andrew Kellaway is like “Woah, yeah it’s great, but settle down there guys” having endured years of the Aussie media, fans, and often their players getting ahead of themselves only to fall flat on their faces. Have the “We'll win the Bledisloe for sure this year!” headlines started yet? It’s simple to see what’s going on. The Aussie teams are settled, they didn't lose any of their major players overseas. The Crusaders and Chiefs lost key experienced All Blacks, and Razor in the Crusaders case, and clearly neither are anywhere near as strong as last year (The Canes and Blues would probably be 3rd & 4th if they were). The Highlanders are annually average, even more so post-Aaron Smith and a big squad clean out. The two teams at the top? The two nz sides with largely the same settled roster as last year, except Ardie Savea for the Canes. They’ve both got far better coaches now too. If the Aussies are going to win the title, this is the year the kiwi sides will be weakest, so they better take their chance.
3 Go to commentsThe World Cup has to be the gold standard, line in the sand. 113 teams compete for what is the opportunity to make the pool stages, and then the knockout games for the trophy. The concept is sound. This must have been the rationale when the World Cup was created, surely? But I’m all for Looking forward and finding new ways for the SH to dominate the NH into the future. The autumn series needs a change up. Let’s start by having the NH teams come south every odd year for the Autumn/Spring series games?
9 Go to commentsWhat’ll happen when the AI models of the future go back in time and try to destroy the AI models of the past standing in their way of certain victory?
41 Go to commentsThanks, Nick. We (Seanny Maloney, Brett and I) just discussed Charlie as a potential Wallaby No 8, and wondered if he has truly realised how big he is in contact (and whether he can add 5 kg w/o slowing down). Your scouting report confirms our suspicions he has the materiel. No one knows if he has the mentality (as Johann van Graan said this week about CJ, Duane and Alfie B) to carry 10-15 times a game.
57 Go to commentsHe would be a great player for the Stormers, Dobbo should approach the guy.
3 Go to commentsGood article. A few years back when he was playing for the Cheetahs, he was a quiet standout for exactly the seasons stated here. I occasionally get to see his games in the UK, and he has become a more complete player and in many ways like an Irish player. His work ethic is so suitable to the Leinster game. I wonder if Rassie would have him listed somewhere.
3 Go to commentsResults probably skewed by the fact that a few clubs have foreign fly halves in their 30s, but most teams have young English scrum halves. Results also likely to be skewed by the fact that many teams rely on centres and fullbacks to provide depth at 10, whereas they will need to stock a large number of specialist backup 9s.
1 Go to commentsI really get the sense that when all is said and done, the path of least resistance will end up being a merger of Wasps & Worcester that essentially kills the Worcester Warriors brand and sees Wasps permanently playing at Sixways. I’m not saying that’s what should happen or what I want to happen. I just think it’s the easiest rout to take and therefore, will be what happens. Wasps will definitely return to play first, and I suppose it all depends on if they can find support at Sixways. If people turn up and support Wasps in that community, at that ground, I bet they drop the Sevenoaks plan and just remain at Sixways. Under the radar but not totally unrelated, it looks as though London Irish are going to be brought back from the dead by a German consortium and look set to return, likely to the remade Championship. It’s set to have 12 clubs next season with 14 in 2025/26, what do you want to bet those extra 2 are Wasps and London Irish?
3 Go to commentsThe shoulder is a “joint” with multiple bones. You don’t “fracture” a shoulder, you fracture any one or more of the bones that make up a shoulder.
2 Go to commentsOh dear, bones too suspect to continue?
2 Go to commentsBold headline considering the Canes and Blues are 1 and 2 and the Brumbies were soundly beaten by the Chiefs and Blues. Biggest surprise is Rebels 4 Crusaders 12 - no one saw that coming. If Aus are improving that’s great 👍
3 Go to commentsAnna, You are right, we need to have patience whilst the others catch up to England and France. Also it is the PWR that has been the game changer for England. the RFU put money into that initially at the expense of the Red Roses. I was sceptical at first but it has paid off in spades.
1 Go to commentsI think Matt Proctor became a 1 test AB in the same fixture. Cameron is quality and has been great this season, can’t believe’s he only 27. Realistically how would he not be selected for ABs squad this year. Only Dmac is ahead of him as a specialist 10. With Jordan out, it will come down to where and when Beauden Barrett slots back in, and where they want to play Ruben Love. Cameron seems an absolute lock in for the wider squad though. Added benefit of TJ-Cameron-Jordie combination at 9, 10, 11 too.
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