'Really cool thing': Queensland Reds excited by Samoa trip to play Moana Pasifika
Brad Thorn has not shown any signs he will fall on his sword as Queensland Reds coach as the team prepares for a Moana Pasifika ambush in Samoa.
The Reds (2-5) have lost three straight games and off-contract coach Thorn has taken the heat, admitting after a heavy loss to the ACT Brumbies he had “possibly” taken the team as far as he could.
A candid Thorn looked out of answers after that game, conceding ill-discipline and poor execution were areas haunting the 2021 Super Rugby AU champion that he’d be unable to improve.
The coach has offered little insight in his only media appearance since, an unannounced interview with the Reds’ media unit from the airport’s departure lounge in the early hours of Thursday morning.
“It’s been a good week; the guys have applied themselves after a disappointing result,” he said.
“Had a solid critique, review … building towards this game in Samoa.”
Pasifika have not won a game this season, thumped 59-0 by the Hurricanes and conceding 62 points to the Brumbies in recent losses.
But they scared the Crusaders with three first-half tries last week and will be a different proposition in their Apia Park debut.
As a result of COVID-19 restrictions, it’s a home ground they’ve been denied since debuting last year as a New Zealand-based side.
“It’ll be a big occasion for them, a really cool thing that’s happened,” Thorn said of the expansion side’s return to Samoa’s capital.
“They’re not afraid to play footy from anywhere on the park.
“It will be a physical battle, but their willingness to play footy and the skills, speed, power, make them really dangerous.”
Co-captains Tate McDermott and Liam Wright, who broke his hand at training on Wednesday, have both publicly backed Thorn and insisted their much-scrutinised game plan is sound.
A bye next week offers Queensland Rugby Union enough time to review the situation but it’s unlikely Thorn, who took over in 2018 and is the club’s longest-serving coach in 20 years, will leave his post early.
In the Reds’ favour is an eight-team finals system that affords plenty of wiggle room and a belief they can match it with any opponent on their day.
They’re currently clinging to eighth spot while the Highlanders finished eighth in 2022 despite carrying a 4-10 record.
There is also no obvious replacement with former Brumbies coach and Wallabies assistant Dan McKellar Leicester-bound and Reds assistant Mick Heenan well-credentialed at Brisbane club level, but only fresh on the Super Rugby scene.
So it’s head down for Thorn, who has been frustrated not to realise the side’s potential despite the likes of Jordan Petaia and Harry Wilson boasting arguably career-best form.
Thorn recalled winger Suliasi Vunivalu at Filipo Daugunu’s expense and is clear on what he wants to see.
“Just a big man, running fast,” he said.
“The power he has carrying that footy. He’s good in the air and Suli at full flight, it’s a really good prospect so we’re hoping to see plenty of that.”
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1 Go to commentsA very well thought out summary of all the relevant complications…agree with your ”refer the Cricket Test versus 20/20 comparison”. More also definitely doesn't necessarily mean better!
1 Go to commentsMust be something when you are only 19 y.o and both NZ and France want you. Btw he wasn’t the only new caledonian in french U20 as Robin Couly also lived in Noumea until 17. Hope he’s successful wherever he chooses to play.
7 Go to comments“Several key players in the Stade Rochelais squad are in their thirties” South Africans are going to hate the implications of that comment!
5 Go to commentsI know Leinster did a job on La Roche but shortly after HT Leinster were 30-13 ahead of them and at a similar time Toulouse were trailing Exeter. At 60 mins Leinster were 27 ahead but after 67 mins Toulouse were only 19 ahead before Exeter collapsed. That’s heavier scoring by Leinster against the Champions. I think people are looking at Toulouses total a little too much. I also think Northhampton are in with a real chance, albeit I’d put Leinster as favourites. If Leinster make the final I expect them to win by more than ten and with control.
5 Go to commentsHey Nick, your match analysis is decent but the top and tail not so much, a bit more random. For a start there’s a seismic difference in regenerating any club side over a test team. EJ pretty much had to urinate with the appendage he’d been given at test level whereas club success is impacted hugely by the budget. Look no further than Boudjellal’s Toulon project for a perfect example. The set ups at La Rochelle and Leinster are like chalk and cheese and you are correct that Leinster are ahead. Leinster are not just slightly ahead though, they are light years ahead on their plans, with the next gen champions cup team already blooded, seasoned and developing at speed from their time manning the fort in the URC while the cream play CC and tests. They have engineered a strong talent conveyor belt into their system, supported by private money funnelled into a couple of Leinster private schools. The really smart move from Leinster and the IRFU however is maximising the Irish Revenue tax breaks (tax relief on the best 10 years earnings refunded at retirement) to help keep all of their stars in Ireland and happy, while simultaneously funding marquee players consistently. And of course Barrett is the latest example. But in no way is he a “replacement for Henshaw”, he’s only there for one season!!! As for Rob Baxter, the best advice you can give him is to start lobbying Parliament and HMRC for a similar state subsidy, but don’t hold your breath… One thing Cullen has been very smart with is his coaching team. Very quickly he realised his need to supplement his skills, there was talk of him exiting after his first couple of years but he was extremely shrewd bringing in Lancaster and now Nienaber. That has worked superbly and added a layer that really has made a tangible difference. Apart from that you were bang on the money… 😉😂
5 Go to commentsNot sure exactly what went wrong for him at Glasgow but it’s pretty clear he ain’t Franco’s cup of tea. Suspect he would have been better served heading out of Scotland around the same time as Finn, Hoggy and Jonny!
1 Go to commentsBulls disrespected the Northampton supporters and the competition. Decide quickly, fully in or out.
25 Go to commentsI wonder if Parling was ever on England’s radar as a coach? Obviously Borthwick is a great lineout coach, but I do worry he might be taking on too much as both head coach and forwards coach.
1 Go to commentsJason Jenkins has one cap. When Etzebeth was his age he had over 80 caps. Experience matters. He will never amount to what Etzebeth has because he hasn’t been developed as an international player.
2 Go to commentsSays much about the player picking this gig over the easier and bigger rewards offered to him in Japan. Also says a lot about the state sanctioned tax benefits the Irish Revenue offers pro rugby players, with their ten highest earning years subject to an additional 40% tax relief and paid as a lump sum, in cash, at retirement. Certainly helps Leinster line up the financial ducks in a row to fund marquee signings like this!!! No other union anywhere in world rugby benefits from this kind of lucrative financial sponsorship from their government…
5 Go to commentsTrue Jordie could earn a lot more in Japan. But by choosing Leinster he’ll be playing with 1 of the best clubs in the world and can win a champions cup and URC…..
6 Go to commentsThanks for that Marshy, noticed you didn't say who is gonna win it. We know who ain't gonna win it - your Crusaders outfit. They've gone from having arguably the best Super Rugby first five ever, to having a clutch of rookies. Hurricanes all the way!
1 Go to commentsGeez you really have to question the NRLs ability to produce players of quality. Its pathetic. Dont the 25mil in Aus produce enough quality womens players. Sad.
1 Go to commentsBulls fan here, and agree 100% with the conclusion (and little else) of this article. SA sides should absolutely f-off from the champs cup until we get fair scheduling, equal support for travel arrangements and home semis. You know, like all the european teams get.
25 Go to commentsI’m yet to see why Grace would be an ABs contender. He’s pedestrian and lacks the dominance required of a top flight 8.
11 Go to commentsGee my Highlanders were terrible. They have gone backwards since the start of the season. The trouble began when we left Millar behind to prep as the 10 against the Brumbies and he was disconnected from the team that came back from Aussie. We rested Patchell for that game and we blew an avalanche of ball in good attacking positions in the 1st half. Against the Rebels we seem to of gone into a pod system with forwards hanging off from the breakdown leaving Fakatava to secure our ball!
80 Go to commentsPot Kettle, the English and French teams have done it for years.
25 Go to commentsHas virtually played every minute of previous games. Back row of Li Lo Willie , Grace and Blackadder would be the 1. Crusaders issue is a very average 1st 5 who cannot run. Kicking in general play is also below par They need to put Yong Kemara in. He must have so.e talent for them to bring him down from Waikato. Hoehepa would struggle to play in so.e club sided
11 Go to commentsI hope this a good thing making all these changes!
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