New Zealand's new second-tier team could have significant ramifications on a global scale
Earlier this week, New Zealand Rugby (NZR) unveiled the newest team that will bear the All Blacks moniker, the All Blacks XV.
This second-tier side will replace the Junior All Blacks who, despite the confusing nature of their name, were not an age-restricted side but rather a development team for players who were close to but not yet ready for full-scale international football.
The Junior All Blacks last competed in 2009 in the Pacific Nations Cup. Since then, New Zealand’s designated second team (i.e. the side that would capture a player’s eligibility for the country) hasn’t played a single game of rugby.
Instead, the Maori All Blacks took centre stage over the last decade and played matches against a range of international teams, from England to the United States, as well as against various invitational sides such as the New Zealand Barbarians and the British and Irish Lions.
That New Zealand Barbarians side is the closest the country has come to assembling a ‘B’ team – although the All Blacks did play a non-test match against a French selection in the latter half of 2017.
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Still, despite disbanding the Junior All Blacks 10 years ago, NZR never sought to change their designated second side.
Of course, there weren’t exactly many options for the country.
Under the current laws of the game, an U20 representative side cannot be a designated second team. That leaves just the Maori All Blacks and the New Zealand Barbarians as options.
Neither side, however, is a true second team.
The Maori obviously have special eligibility requirements while the Barbarians have played just three times in the last decade (once against the touring Lions and twice against the Maori) and tend to select as much based on inclusivity of provincial representation as they do on forging winning combinations.
That means that the only way for a potential All Black’s eligibility to be captured is playing for the national side or representing New Zealand in sevens.
There’s a whole second tier of players that likely would have been tied to playing for New Zealand were it not for the lack of the Junior All Blacks’ existence.
The likes of Bundee Aki, Jared Payne, Johnny McNicholl and Brad Shields would likely never have been able to suit up for Ireland, Wales and England if the Junior All Blacks had played even a handful of matches post-2009.
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The Pacific Island nations would be hit even harder, with men like Ben Tameifuna (who played for the NZ Barbarians in 2011), Michael Alaalatoa, Alapati Leuia and Nasi Manu all players who would have had realistic chances of earning selection for the Junior All Blacks – although they would not have necessarily taken up the opportunity.
Other than preventing other nations from selecting players groomed in New Zealand, however, capturing the eligibility of the country’s second-tier of players would do little to help New Zealand as a whole.
Potentially it would marginally impact the number of players that head overseas.
First, it would tip players off that they’re not too far away from selection in the national side which might act as an incentive in of itself.
Then again, men like Shields and Tameifuna likely had plenty of discussions with the selectors throughout their Super Rugby careers – you can only be close to selection so many times before you have to make the call to take your abilities elsewhere.
Second of all – and perhaps it’s a more negative method of keeping players in New Zealand – some leagues have rules in place to limit the number of foreign players. The Top League is a major example where there are restrictions on the number of non-Japanese players that can take part in any one match. This could diminish the possible earnings a player could make in some territories.
The flip side, of course, is that some clubs actually prefer to bring in players who aren’t going to be called up to their national side.
Bristol, for example, know that Charles Piutau’s one and only rugby commitment is his club. As Piutau has been capped for New Zealand and the All Blacks don’t select overseas-based players, the Bears won’t lose the talented outside back during test windows. That naturally significantly increases Piutau’s value to the club.
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Young players will no doubt jump at the chance to represent the new All Blacks XV but it may be a decision they one day look back on with regret if it ends up preventing them from playing international football at a later date.
It’s not just players that are heading offshore, of course. New Zealand is constantly haemorrhaging talented coaches due to the fact that there are simply not enough top opportunities in the country.
Realistically, once a coach has successfully established themselves as an excellent operator at Super Rugby level, the only two options at present are to coach the national side or head elsewhere.
Dave Rennie is now coaching the Wallabies. Before him, it was Joe Schmidt, Vern Cotter and Robbie Deans. At this point in time, it would be more of a surprise if Scott Robertson stayed on New Zealand’s shores than if he emigrated elsewhere.
If New Zealand Rugby use this new team correctly, however, then that could change.
Given the obvious commercial benefits of the new team, it would be a mistake if NZR didn’t establish the head coaching role of All Blacks XV as the second most prestigious role in the country.
Yes, it’s only one extra head coaching position, but it would ensure that a local product is able to get some form of international experience without having to actually leave the country.
It would add a completely new pathway to the mix for grooming top-calibre coaches.
Of course, there’s a chance that NZR will simply fob the coaching role off to the first two coaches that put their hands up and, while that wouldn’t come as the biggest surprise of all time, it would certainly be a missed opportunity.
It’s clear that from a New Zealand point of view, the new development side should only produce benefits.
Instead of cramming an extra tour match into an already packed schedule and loading up a plane with men who are only likely to feature once or twice over the space of five weeks, New Zealand will now be able to send a completely separate team on their own itinerary.
It’s been confirmed that the All Blacks XV’s first match will be against Fiji in Vancouver on Halloween with two more games still to be confirmed.
Given that the All Blacks XV will already be in North America, it wouldn’t come as a major surprise if they teed off against the United States and Canada on the following two weekends (those two American nations will also square off in Vancouver).
Alternatively, they could head to Europe to do battle with the likes of Spain and Russia or head to South America – where the Maori All Black will be taking on Colombia on November 10.
The wider public have been quick to cotton on to the fact that the new side is obviously being used as a commercial opportunity for NZR, but that doesn’t undermine the greater rugby benefits that will come with introducing an additional development side.
The All Blacks XV will of course be used to further promote the All Blacks brand in America – where brand is key, even if there isn’t necessarily a lot of substance behind it.
When the USA national sevens side bested the New Zealand team for the first time ever in 2017, USA news websites all trumpeted that their national side had beaten the All Blacks – which is hard to argue with, given that the New Zealand team was rebranded as the All Blacks Sevens in 2012.
“We need $100 million a year to sustain our national game, to produce and retain the best players in the world and to keep making the community game attractive to young players, but opportunities are more limited in New Zealand and the economic climate also makes it very challenging,” said the NZR CEO at the time, Steve Tew.
“This change allows us to create more reasons for international companies to associate with the All Blacks and New Zealand rugby by convincing them that the brand has real global reach.
“The All Blacks Sevens and Maori All Blacks can do that by flying the All Blacks flag virtually around the world throughout the year. They are both wonderful ambassadors for our game.”
NZR chief Rugby office Nigel Cass also hasn’t shied away from the fact that new All Blacks XV will be a great fundraiser for the union.
“We wouldn’t be doing unless it was financially worthwhile but we wouldn’t be doing it solely for the money,” said Cass. “It does provide some opportunity and interest for players out of Mitre 10 Cup.”
And while the new side may carry the All Blacks moniker, players won’t be named as official All Blacks unless they actually take the field for the first team – as was the case when the Maori All Blacks and All Blacks Sevens came to be.
“The definition of an All Black will not change,” Tew said at the time.
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“To be capped as an All Black you must take the field in a fifteen aside test match. Becoming an All Black will remain the pinnacle of rugby achievement and the dream of youngsters across the country who lace up their boots each weekend.”
Still, it’s hard to argue that giving an extra 30-odd players the opportunity to come together and represent New Zealand against other international sides won’t help the country continue to develop its talent.
There will no doubt be plenty of up-and-coming players that will miss out on selection in the All Blacks this year – but they will still be given the opportunity to further their careers with this new All Blacks XV selection.
Of course, the Maori All Blacks have undertaken multiple tours over the last decade and the expectation is that this will continue – just maybe not to the same extent.
The Maori All Blacks ‘brand’ is obviously much more pertinent to New Zealanders than to overseas supporters which may mean the Maori play more matches in and around New Zealand while the All Blacks XV are given the opportunity to globe trot.
That’s obviously not going to be the situation in 2020 with both sides heading to the Americas in the latter party of the year, but time will tell how NZR manage their three top men’s teams.
The inception of the new All Blacks XV will give players around New Zealand the opportunity to represent their country that many second-tier players have missed out on in the past and will help develop New Zealand’s game – both on a commercial and a rugby-playing level. On a national level, it’s a win-win for players, fans and administrators alike.
Perhaps the greatest negative consequence, however, will be that we see an even greater number of players have their eligibility captured by New Zealand but never really progress onto becoming long-term All Blacks.
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> They are not standalone entities. They are linked to an amateur association which holds the FFR licence that allows the professional side to compete in the league. That’s a great rule. This looks like the chicken or egg professional scenario. How long is it going to be before the club can break even (if that is even a thing in French rugby)? If the locals aren’t into well it would be good to se them drop to amateur level (is it that far?). Hope they can reset from this level and be more practical, there will be a time when they can rebuild (if France has there setup right).
1 Go to commentsWhat about changing the ball? To something heavier and more pointed that bounces unpredictably. Not this almost round football used these days.
35 Go to commentsThis is the problem with conservative mindsets and phycology, and homogenous sports, everybody wants to be the same, use the i-win template. Athlete wise everyone has to have muscles and work at the gym to make themselves more likely to hold on that one tackle. Do those players even wonder if they are now more likely to be tackled by that player as a result of there “work”? Really though, too many questions, Jake. Is it better Jake? Yes, because you still have that rugby of ole that you talk about. Is it at the highest International level anymore? No, but you go to your club or checkout your representative side and still engage with that ‘beautiful game’. Could you also have a bit of that at the top if coaches encouraged there team to play and incentivized players like Damian McKenzie and Ange Capuozzo? Of course we could. Sadly Rugby doesn’t, or didn’t, really know what direction to go when professionalism came. Things like the state of northern pitches didn’t help. Over the last two or three decades I feel like I’ve been fortunate to have all that Jake wants. There was International quality Super Rugby to adore, then the next level below I could watch club mates, pulling 9 to 5s, take on the countries best in representative rugby. Rugby played with flair and not too much riding on the consequences. It was beautiful. That largely still exists today, but with the world of rugby not quite getting things right, the picture is now being painted in NZ that that level of rugby is not required in the “pathway” to Super Rugby or All Black rugby. You might wonder if NZR is right and the pathway shouldn’t include the ‘amateur’, but let me tell you, even though the NPC might be made up of people still having to pull 9-5s, we know these people still have dreams to get out of that, and aren’t likely to give them. They will be lost. That will put a real strain on the concept of whether “visceral thrill, derring-do and joyful abandon” type rugby will remain under the professional level here in NZ. I think at some point that can be eroded as well. If only wanting the best athlete’s at the top level wasn’t enough to lose that, shutting off the next group, or level, or rugby players from easy access to express and showcase themselves certainly will. That all comes back around to the same question of professionalism in rugby and whether it got things right, and rugby is better now. Maybe the answer is turning into a “no”?
35 Go to commentsWow, didn’t realise there was such apathy to URC in SA, or by Champions Cup teams. Just read Nick’s article on Crusaders, are Sharks a similar circumstance? I think SA rugby has been far more balanced than NZs, no?
2 Go to commentsBut here in Australia we were told Penney was another gun kiwi coach, for the Tahs…….and yet again it turned out the kiwi coach was completely useless. Another con job on Australian rugby. As was Robbie Deans, as was Dave Rennie. Both coaches dumped from NZ and promoted to Australia as our saviour. And the Tahs lap them up knowing they are second rate and knowing that under pressure when their short comings are exposed in Australia as well, that they will fall in below the largest most powerful province and choose second rate Tah players to save their jobs. As they do and exactly as Joe Schmidt will do. Gauranteed. Schmidt was dumped by NZ too. That’s why he went overseas. That why kiwi coaches take jobs in Australia, to try and prove they are not as bad as NZ thought they were. Then when they get found out they try and ingratiate themselves to NZ again by dragging Australian teams down with ridiculous selections and game plans. NZ rugby’s biggest problem is that it can’t yet transition from MCaw Cheatism. They just don’t know how to try and win on your merits. It is still always a contest to see how much cheating you can get away with. Without a cheating genius like McCaw, they are struggling. This I think is why my wise old mate in NZ thinks Robertson will struggle. The Crusaders are the nursery of McCaw Cheatism. Sean Fitzpatrick was probably the father of it. Robertson doesn’t know anything else but other countries have worked it out.
28 Go to commentsIt could be coincidental or prescient that the All Blacks most dominant period under Steve Hansen was when the Crusaders had their least successful period under Todd Blackadder and then the positions reversed when Razor took over the Crusaders.
28 Go to commentsDefinitely sound read everybodyexpects immediate results these days, I don't think any team would travel well at all having lost three of the most important game changers in the game,compiled with the massive injury list they are now carrying, good to see a different more in depth perspective of a coaches history.
3 Go to commentsSinckler is a really big loss for English rugby.
2 Go to commentsThanks Nick The loss of players to OS, injury and retirement is certainly not helping the Crusaders. Ditto the coach. IMO Penny is there to hold the fort and cop the flak until new players and a new coach come through,…and that's understood and accepted by Penny and the Crusaders hierarchy. I think though that what is happening with the Crusaders is an indicator of what is happening with the other NZ SRP teams…..and the other SRP teams for that matter. Not enough money. The money has come via the SR competition and it’s not there anymore. It's in France, Japan and England. Unless or until something is done to make SR more SELLABLE to the NZ/Australia Rugby market AND the world rugby market the $s to keep both the very best players and the next rung down won't be there. They will play away from NZ more and more. I think though that NZ will continue to produce the players and the coaches of sufficient strength for NZ to have the capacity to stay at the top. Whether they do stay at the top as an international team will depend upon whether the money flowing to SRP is somehow restored, or NZ teams play in the Japan comp, or NZ opts to pick from anywhere. As a follower of many sports I’d have to say that the organisation and promotion of Super Rugby has been for the last 20 years closest to the worst I’ve ever seen. This hasn't necessarily been caused by NZ, but it’s happened. Perhaps it can be fixed, perhaps not. The Crusaders are I think a symptom of this, not the cause
28 Go to commentsNo way. If you are trying to picture New Zealand rugby with an All Blacks mindset, there have been two factors instrumental to the decline of NZ rugby to date. Those are the horror that the Blues have become and, probably more so, the fixture that the Crusaders became. I don’t think it was healthy to have one team so dominant for so long, both for lack of proper representation of players from outside that environment and on the over reliance on players from within it. If you are another international side, like Ireland for example, sure. You can copy paste something succinct from one level to the next and experience a huge increase in standards, but ultimately you will not be maximizing it, which is what you need to perform to the level the ABs do. Added to that is the apathy that develops in the whole game as a result of one sides dominance. NZ, Super, and Championship rugby should all experience a boom as a result of things balancing out. That said, there is a lot of bad news happening in NZ rugby recently, and I’m not sure the game can be handled well enough here to postpone the always-there feeling of inevitable decline of rugby.
28 Go to commentsNo SA supporter miss Super Rugby - a product that is experiencing significant head wind in ANZ - the competition from rival codes are intense, match attendance figures are at a historical low and the negativity of commentators such as Kirwan and Wilson have accelerated the downward spiral in NZ. After the next RWC in 2027 sponsors will follow Qantas and start leaving in droves.
2 Go to commentsLike others, I am not seeing the connection between this edition of the Crusaders and the All Blacks future prospects under Razor. I think the analysis of the Crusaders attack recently is helpful because Razor and his coaching team used to be able to slot new guys in to their systems and see them succeed. Several of Razor’s coaches are still there so it would be surprising if the current attack and set piece has been overhauled to a great extent - but based on that analysis, it may have been. Whether it is too many new guys due to injuries or retirement or a failure of current Crusaders systems is the main question to be answered imo. It doesn’t seem relevant for the ABs.
28 Go to commentsharry potter is set in stone. he creates stability and finishes well. exactly what schmidt likes. he’s the ben smith of australian rugby. i think it could quite easily be potter toole and kellaway for the foreseeable future.
5 Go to commentsThis is short sighted from Clayton if you ask me, smacks of too much preseason planning and no adaptability. What if DMac is out for a must win match, are they still only going to bring their best first five and playmaker on late in the game? Trusting the game to someone who wasn’t even part of planning (they would have had Trask pinned in as Jacomb preseason). Perhaps if the Crusaders were better they would not have done this, but either way imo you take this opportunity to play a guy you might need starting in a final rather than having their 12th game getting comfortable coming off the bench.
1 Go to commentsThanks Brett.. At last a positive article on the potential of Wallaby candidates, great to read. Schmidt’s record as an international rugby coach speaks for itself, I’m somewhat confident he will turn the Wallaby’s fortunes around …. on the field. It will be up to others to steady the ship off the paddock. But is there a flaw in my optimism? We have known all along that Australia has the players to be very competitive with their international rivals. We know that because everyone keeps telling us. So why the poor results? A question that requires a definitive answer before the turn around can occur. Joe Schmidt signed on for 2 years, time to encompass the Lions tour of 2025. By all accounts he puts family first and that’s fair enough, but I would wager that his 2 year contract will be extended if the next 18 months or so shows the statement “Australia has the players” proves to be correct. The new coach does not have a lot of time to meld together an outfit that will be competitive in the Rugby Championship - it will be interesting to see what happens. It will be interesting to see what happens with Giteau law, the new Wallaby coach has already verbalised that he would to prefer to select from those who play their rugby in Australia. His first test in charge is in July just over 3 months away .. not a long time. I for one wish him well .. heaven knows Australia needs some positive vibes.
21 Go to commentsWhat a load of bollocks. The author has forgotten to mention the fact that the Crusaders have a huge injury toll with top world class players out. Not to mention the fact that they are obviously in a transition period. No this will not spark a slow death for NZ rugby, but it does mean there will be a new Super Rugby champion. Anyone who knows anything about NZ rugby knows that there is some serious talent here, it just isn’t all at the Crusaders.
28 Go to commentsI wouldn’t spend the time on Nawaqanitawase! No point in having him filling in a jersey when he’s committed to leave Union. Give the jersey to a young prospect who will be here in the future.
5 Go to commentsIt was a pleasure to watch those guys playing with such confidence. That trio can all be infuriating for different reasons and I can see why Jones might have decided against them. No way to justify leaving Ikitau out though. Jorgensen and him were both scheduled to return at the same time. Only one of them plays for Randwick and has a dad who is great mates with the national coach though.
55 Go to commentsBrayden Iose and Peter Lakai are very exciting Super Rugby players but are too short and too light to ever be a Test 8 vs South Africa, France, Ireland, and England, Lakai could potentially be a Test player at 7 if he is allowed to focus on 7 for Hurricanes.
7 Go to commentsPencils “Thomas du Toit” into possible 2027 Bok squad.
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