Honda Heat bag 4 players, including Bok and a Blue

'I’m no Andy Farrell am I? But I’d pick him'

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DC 26 minutes ago

I hope Ford doesn’t go. He’d be wasted on that tour.

Better to go on England's summer tour instead. Playing Argentina is going to be a bigger challenge, and England tours are far more important.

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BC 47 minutes ago

Player ratings: Which England players impressed against Italy?

Sing - 6 out of 10, kicked some conversions and plodded down the wing a couple of times. Muir 8 out of 10, made a number of piercing runs and part of a dominant front row. Clifford 7.5 out of 10, effective around the park and scrummaged well. Venner - 6 out of 10, easy try but failed to convert other opportunities that Kildunne, Dow, Breach, MacDonald and Millie David would have eaten for breakfast. Shekells 7.5 out of 10, looked a very promising prospect at number 12. Perhaps I watched a different game?

'There's a lot of rugby knowledge': David Havili's reasoning behind in-form backline

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ma 55 minutes ago

One good performance shouldn’t change the fact he hasn’t been consistent. Sure they beat broken down blues team who’s bottom of table for a reason.

Red Roses take home bonus point despite disappointing second half against Italy

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BC 1 hour ago

It will be interesting to see in the future whether any tries scored soon after a scrum are chalked off by the TMO for a crooked scrum feed. Takeaways for me, other than an extremely mediocre 2nd half, were that Sing has only one advantage over EK and that is her place kicking. When she did get a run down the wing it was at Maher's funereal pace. Millie David is a better finisher than Venner and should be in the squad instead. Shekell looked a very likely understudy if not equivalent to Heard. Marlie Packer not a starter anymore.

Crusaders prepare for 'dangerous in all elements' Chiefs game-breaker

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JP 2 hours ago

Bulls' Jake White: 'It’s stupid things, stupid - unbelievably stupid'

Successfully conned the officials, not only at the scrum, but for the maul penalty try.

Successfully inflicted 8 head injuries without conceding a single high tackle penalty.

Seems they're more than “smart” enough to exploit the negligence of Ben Whitehouse and the hometown AR’s.

Peato Mauvaka cops ban for headbutt on Scotland star

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DP 5 hours ago

That’s why we threw that game against you in the pool stages by playing Libbok at 10 who couldn’t split the uprights for love or money.

Former New Zealand flanker and coach Alex ‘Grizz’ Wyllie dies

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GP 6 hours ago

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'Ulster, though no one wants to admit it, isn't much more than a development province right now.'

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'Ulster, though no one wants to admit it, isn't much more than a development province right now.'

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Mzilikazi 8 hours ago

“I was wondering if the AIL had clubs that were on the tipping point of wanting to become pro, how close could they get to a current Ulster etc”.

The Irish structure has always been the International team at the top, then the four provinces, then the clubs below that. Before the pro era in each province there were senior clubs playing each other, and that was pretty much “ring fenced”…no relegation or promotion. Then below that a series of junior leagues. The top players in the international scene played in the Five Nations(before Italy came in), and against the touring All Blacks or Springboks initially, then later Australia and Argentina came in. Actually I would need to go back and check the history of the teams coming onto the scene ie other than the Ab’s and Boks.

Those International players would only play for their province three times each year in the Inter Pro games, with the Bok, AB etc games only in tour years. Rest of the time, every single Int. player played club rugby every weekend.

Pro era dawned, and the four provinces became the sole pro teams, feeding up to the Int. team. There is no prospect as far as I can see of any AIL team ever becoming professional. Deepete, or someone living in Ireland would know more than I do, but what happens is fringe and academy players can play in the AIL, giving them game time they would not get otherwise. Top International players would rarely play at AIL level.

I think in Australia the tyranny of distance inhibits an AIL type structure. Ireland is tiny, good rail and road sytems, and it is easy to play in Cork, Limerick, Dublin, any where, weekend after weekend. Imagine an All Australian league, and travelling from Townsville for a game in Margaret River, etc. etc.

“I actually had the tables up and had no idea who was who lol”. Neither do I in some cases. A lot of new clubs since I played/lived in Ireland…I have to check who some are !!

Good discussion here JW. Have enjoyed it.