Crusaders coach Scott Robertson weighs in on what the future of Super Rugby should look like
Crusaders head coach Scott Robertson has called for Super Rugby to adopt a cross-border competition featuring teams from multiple nations.
Despite the imminent induction of Moana Pasifika and the Fijian Drua into a new-look Super Rugby competition next year, the future of the league remains up in the air following the Australian franchise’s winless start to Super Rugby Trans-Tasman.
After two rounds of action, the Brumbies, Reds, Waratahs, Rebels and Force are still searching for their first win over their Kiwi counterparts.
The Hurricanes extended New Zealand’s winning streak to 11 straight matches in Napier on Friday when they dispatched the Force 43-6 at McLean Park.
That has led to concerns from Rugby Australia [RA] officials over the feasibility of an international competition featuring teams from New Zealand, Australia and the Pacific Islands.
RA chairman Hamish McLennan has made it clear he wants to retain a closed-off Super Rugby AU competition, which generated high television ratings and fan interest within Australia this year, before delving into a cross-border tournament next season.
That would require also require New Zealand Rugby [NZR] to retain its own Super Rugby Aotearoa competition, which is widely viewed as much better quality than Super Rugby AU but has been derided due to its brutal nature which saw high injury tolls in 2020 and 2021.
Robertson is among those who would rather see the return of an international format in Super Rugby, as was the case before COVID-19 led to the demise of the old competition that featured teams from New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, Argentina and Japan.
“For Aussie rugby they need to play us, that’s my belief,” Robertson told media earlier this week. “They need to make sure they’re tested, just as we are.
“Is it sustainable that Kiwi teams keep playing themselves? It’s just too brutal playing Aotearoa year after year…they will get better for playing us, and they need to.”
Robertson’s Crusaders side are nearing the end of their 10-day tour of Australia, where they thumped the Queensland Reds 63-21 in Brisbane last week and are set to face the lowly Waratahs in Wollongong on Saturday.
Despite the dominance of the Kiwi sides, Robertson said the chance to get out of New Zealand and play teams from another country has reminded him of what was good from the often-maligned Super Rugby format of old.
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“I’ve been on tour 25 years, as a player [and coach], I look forward to this as much as any of the other ones, just to break the cycle of a couple of years going into [Crusaders headquarters] Rugby Park,” he said.
“One of the great gifts that rugby gives you as a professional sportsman is the ability to travel and go in a group. When you saw the draw, Brisbane to Coogee Bay, there was a bit of excitement and the weather has come to play.”
Robertson joins a growing cohort of rugby personalities on either side of the Tasman who have voiced their support for an integrated tournament between New Zealand and Australian franchises.
Crusaders chief executive Colin Mansbridge told the Sydney Morning Herald earlier this week that New Zealand and Australian teams playing in their own separate competitions is “the last thing” he wants next year.
Similarly, Highlanders star Aaron Smith told reporters on Friday that New Zealand “need Australia” and that the Brumbies, Reds, Waratahs, Rebels and Force would be better in the long run for having prolonged exposure against Kiwi teams.
“I definitely think we need to play a normal, formatted Super Rugby against the Australians,” Smith said.
“We lost to the Rebels the last two times we played them. I’ve only beaten the Reds once over at Suncorp [Stadium].
“Playing the Tahs over in Sydney is hard. All these games are tough, in their own way, and it’s probably the same for the Aussies when they come here.
“But we need them. We need that bond of the Bledisloe [Cup], the bond between New Zealand rugby and Australian rugby to be strong, for our rugby to be strong.”
Reds head coach Brad Thorn has also weighed in on the debate, saying that the Australian teams shouldn’t shy away from the challenge of playing the New Zealand sides, a sentiment echoed by former Wallabies prop Ben Darwin.
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Speaking on the Aotearoa Rugby Pod on Monday, Darwin said that Australian rugby would be “done” if RA decided to close itself off from an international version of Super Rugby.
“That notion of being a ‘closed’ competition really hit home if you go back to Japanese rugby in 1995,” he said, in reference to the 1995 World Cup.
“They did not really play other countries particularly a lot of the time. They played against Korea quite a bit. People were very happy with it, because internally they were doing very well.
“But then they got the shock of their lives when they went to Bloemfontein, they lose by 145 to New Zealand and it’s like, ‘Okay, now we know where we are’.
“They just had no notion that they were so far behind, and they’ve caught up. They’ve caught up and they’ve got a much better standard, they’ve got foreign coaches, they’ve got some foreign players.
“Playing against good opposition, versing good scrums, made a massive difference for Japanese rugby over time. So, if we shut up shop here in Australia, we are done.”
The prospect of a cross-border competition that would see New Zealand, Australian, Pacific Island and Japanese teams going head-to-head also hasn’t been ruled out of the equation.
Top League chairman Osamu Ota revealed on Tuesday that talks are underway between NZR, RA and the Japan Rugby Football Union [JRFU] about a potential competition involving clubs from all three countries.
Former Wallabies and Crusaders head coach Robbie Deans, who guided the Panasonic Wild Knights to the 2021 Top League title last week, said there “would be an appetite” for such a competition.
He noted, however, that, in its early years, such a competition would have to be preceded by domestic competitions – Super Rugby Aotearoa, Super Rugby AU and the Top League – with the champions of those leagues going into a Champions Cup-style tournament.
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“I think particularly the way it’s structured at the moment, you’ve got your domestic campaign concluded, you have your domestic champion, if you like, and then you go cross-border, so your support base would follow that with interest,” Deans told reporters.
“Obviously there could be some discrepancies in terms of level, but there’s noting from what we’re witnessing at the moment.”
He added: “In my personal opinion, I think we’d be competitive in an abbreviated format in the first instance, but there’s no doubt that anyone that goes toe-to-toe with the New Zealand franchises week-in, week-out is going to find it hard.
“We would need to develop some more depth to be able to do that over a longer, extended competition, but that could come in time.
“But, certainly in the first instance, the optimal to interact would be [to play internationally] post-domestic comp so you create the narrative from domestic to cross-border.
“The possibilities are endless, and there have been discussions about going cross-hemispheres as well, but that’s the right way to do it because it caters to your domestic markets and the narrative grows and builds without compromising any[thing].
“In terms of interest, the interest here [in Japan] would be enormous, as it is week-to-week [in the Top League].
“COVID aside, we played at full houses routinely and the public imagination has been captured by the competition here by the performance of the Brave Blossoms. It’s put rugby up on the stage.”
NZR and RA have said a decision on the format of next year’s Super Rugby will be made by the end of next month.
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1 Go to commentsThanks BeeMc! Looks like many teams need extra time to settle from the quadrennial northern migration. I think generally the quality of the Rugby has held up. Fiji has been fantastic and fun to watch
13 Go to commentsLets compare apples with apples. Lyon sent weak team the week before, but nobody raised an eyebrow. Give the South African teams a few years to build their depth, then you will be moaning that the teams are too strong.
41 Go to commentsDid footballs agents also perform the scout role at some time? I’m surprised more high profile players haven’t taken up the occupation, great way to remain in the game and use all that experience without really requiring a lot of specific expertise?
1 Go to commentsSuper rugby is struggling but that has little to do with sabbaticals. 1. Too many teams from Aust and NZ - should be 3 and 4 respectively, add in 2 from Japan, 1 possibly 2 from Argentina. 2. Inconsistent and poor refereeing, admittedly not restricted to Super rugby. Only one team was reffed at the breakdown in Reds v H’Landers match. Scrum penalty awarded in Canes v Drua when No 8 had the ball in the open with little defence nearby - ideal opportunity to play advantage. Coming back to Reds match - same scrum situation but ref played advantage - Landers made 10 yards and were penalised at the breakdown when the ref should have returned to scrum penalty. 3. Marketing is weak and losing ground to AFL and NRL. Playing 2 days compared with 4. 4. Scheduling is unattractive to family attendance. Have any franchises heard of Sundays 2pm?
11 Go to commentsAbsolutely..all they need is a chance in yhe playoffs and I bet all the other teams will be nervous…THEY KNOW HOW TO WIN IM THE PLAYOFFS..
2 Go to commentsI really hope he comes back and helps out with some coaching.
1 Go to commentsI think we are all just hoping that the Olympic 7s doesn’t suffer the same sad fate as the last RWC with the officials ruining the spectacle.
1 Go to commentsPersonally, I’ve lost the will to even be bothered about the RFU, the structure, the participants. It’s all a sham. I now simply enjoy getting a group of friends together to go and watch a few games a year in different locations (including Europe, the championship, etc). I feel extremely sorry for the real fans of these clubs who are constantly ignored by the RFU and other administrators. I feel especially sorry for the fans of clubs in the Championship who have had considerable central funding stripped away and are then expected to just take whatever the RFU put to them. Its all a sham, especially if the failed clubs are allowed to return.
9 Go to commentsI’m guessing Carl Hayman would have preferred to have stayed in NZ with benefit of hindsight. Up north there is the expectation to play twice as many games with far less ‘player management’ protocols that Paul is now criticising. Less playing through concussions means longer, healthier, careers. Carter used as the eg here by Paul, his sabbatical allowed him to play until age 37. OK its not an exact science but there is far more expectations on players who sign for Top 14 or Engl Prem clubs to get value for the huge salaries. NZR get alot wrong but keeping their best players in NZ rugby is not one of them. SA clubs are virtually devoid of their top players now, no thanks. They cant threaten the big teams in the Champions Cup, the squads have little depth. Cant see Canes/Chiefs struggling. Super has been great this year, fantastic high skill matches. Drua a fantastic addition and Jaguares will add another quality team eventually. Aus teams performing strongly and no doubt will benefit with the incentive of a Lions tour and a home RWC. Let Jordie enjoy his time with Leinster, it will allow the opportunity for another player to emerge at Canes in his absence.
11 Go to commentsLove that man, his way to despise angry little men is so funny ! 😂
4 Go to comments“South African franchises would be powerhouses if we had all our overseas based players back in situ. We would have the same unbeatable aura the Toulouses, Leinsters or Saracens of this world have had over the last decade or so.” Proof that Jake white does not understand the economics of the game in SA. Players earning abroad are not going to simply come back and represent the bulls. But they might if they have a springbok contract.
24 Go to commentsA lot of fans just joined in for the fun of it! We all admire O'Gara and what he has done for La Rochelle
4 Go to commentsThe RFU will find a way to mess this up as usual. My bet is there will be no promotion into the the Premiership, only relegation into National League One. Hopefully they won’t parachute failed clubs into the league at the expense of clubs who have battled for promotion.
9 Go to commentsWell that’s the contracts for RG and Jordie bought and paid for. Now, what are the chances we can persuade Antoine to hop over with all the extra dosh we’ll have from living at the Aviva & Croke next season…??? 🤑🤑🤑
35 Go to commentsWow, that’s incredible. Great for rugby.
35 Go to commentsYou probably read that parling is going to coach the wallaby lineout but if not before now you have.
17 Go to commentsIf someone like Leo Cullen was in O’Gara’s place I don’t hear Boo-ing. It’s not just that La Rochelle has hurt Leinster and O’Gara is their Irish boss. It’s the needle that he brings and the pantomime activity before the game around pretending that Munster were supporting LaRochelle just because O’Gara is from Cork. That’s dividing Irish provinces just to get an advantage for his French Team. He can F*ck right off with that. BOOOOO! (but not while someone is lying injured)
4 Go to commentsDid the highlanders party too hard before the game? They were the pits.
1 Go to commentsWhat a player! Not long until he’s in the England side, surely?
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