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'You respect anyone playing at that age, Johnny, Smith, Thorn'
Bristol boss Pat Lam has suggested he wouldn’t be in the least bit surprised to see John Afoa play Gallagher Premiership rugby next season for the Bears at the age of 39. The 38-year-old All Blacks World Cup winner celebrates his next birthday in October and any thoughts that the current 2021/22 campaign was supposed to be the last hurrah wind-down for the veteran as he transitioned into coaching have been scratched in recent weeks.
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The New Zealander had this season opted to juggle a new scrum coach role at Bristol with his playing commitments as a tighthead. It suggested he might be on his way out as a player but he is instead busily enjoying himself coming down the finishing straight to the campaign. He has played a part in the last six league and European Bears games and is now readying himself for a second successive Premiership start when his team visits league leaders Leicester on Saturday.
“Johnny is good, he trucks away,” said a chuffed Lam when asked by RugbyPass about the admirable robustness of Bristol veteran Afoa. “I have worked with Jonny since he was 18 and I’m really pleased for him. The on-the-field is great, the off-the-field is another level.
“He has mentored so many people and what I am really proud of is I know what he was like when he was 18 and the last thing he was thinking about was leadership or mentoring and all that sort of stuff. But the experiences that that guy has had, we are talking about 20 years later, are huge. He is such a humble guy but a great mentor, a great person and the boys love him. He is dealing with boys now that could be his sons.”
Will we see him playing as a 39-year-old? “I wouldn’t put it past him, wouldn’t put it past him,” continued Lam. “It is fair to say when Johnny started he wasn’t thinking about looking after the body, it was just play rugby and enjoy it.
“But like most guys in the professional era, they get to a point or an age where they realise this (body) is my tool, I have got to look after it and that is what he has done. You have got respect anyone who is still playing at that age, Johnny, George Smith, Brad Thorn.
“I mean, I retired when I was 34 and I was broken. You have got to respect anyone who can still go and produce at that age because obviously it is not just done naturally, by doing nothing, it is done by doing a lot of hard work. Rest, recovery, doing all the little things well to ensure you can go again.”
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Asked how Afoa has managed his responsibilities as a rookie Bristol coach, Lam added: “He has had great support from Dave Ward because it is not easy being player-coach. That is a challenge but the thing with Johnny is that obviously he is a very good technician, knows a lot, and has had more scrums than anybody.
“But he is also the guy mentoring, leadership and understanding. It isn’t easy being a player coach. I knew that when I did my year, my last year (as a player). That is a challenge but he has had some good support.”
Will he continue into a second year with the coaching? “Yeah, I think so. It’s an area that if he wants to he will continue it for us.”
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He was in such great form. Sad for him but only a short term injury and it will be great to see him back for the finals.
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3 Go to commentsBoth nations missed a great opportunity to book a game that would have had a lot of interest from around the world. I understand these games can’t be organised in 5 minutes but they should have found a way to make it happen. I don’t think Wales are ducking anyone but it’s a bad look haha.
3 Go to commentsIt will be fascinating to see the effect that Jo Yapp has. If they can compete with Canada and give BFs a run for their money that will be progress
1 Go to commentsFollowing his dream and putting in the work. Go well young fella!
3 Go to commentsPerhaps filling Twickenham is one of Mitchell’s KPIs. I doubt whether both September matches will be at Twickenham on consecutive weekends. I would take the BF one to a large provincial stadium so as not to give them the advantage and experience of playing at Twickenham before a large crowd prior to the RWC.
3 Go to commentsvery unfortunate for Kitshoff, but big opportunity potentially for Nché to prove he is genuinely the best loosehead in the world, rather than just a specialist finisher. Presuming that if Kitshoff is out, it will also give Steenekamp a chance to come into the 23? Or are others likely to be ahead of him?
1 Go to commentsA long held question in popular culture asks if art imitates life or does the latter influence the former? Over this 6 nations I can ask the same question of the media influencing the thoughts of its audience or vice versa. Nobody wants to see cricket scores in rugby, as a spectacle it is not sustainable. With so many articles about England’s procession and lack of competition it feeds the epicaricacy of many looking for an opportunity to pounce. England are not the first team to dominate nor does it happen only in rugby, think Federer, Nadal, Red Bull or Mercedes, Manchester Utd, Australia in tests and World Cups. Instead of celebrating the achievements why find reasons to falsify it pointing towards larger playing pool, professional for a longer period or mitigate with the lack of growth in other nations. Can we not enjoy it while it is here and know that it won’t last for ever, others coveting what England have will soon take the crown, ask the aforementioned?
6 Go to commentsShame he won’t turn out for the Netherlands now they’re improving. U20s are Euro champs and in the U20 Trophy this year. The senior sides gets better every year too.
3 Go to commentsWill rugbypass tv be showing these games?
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6 Go to commentsWayne Smith's input didn't have as much impact on the last final as Davison's red card for Thompson. England were 14 points up and flying when that happened.
6 Go to commentsBilly's been playing consistently well for 2 - 3 seasons now and deserves a look in at the top level. Ioane and ALB are still first choice but there needs to be injury cover and succession. His partnership with Jordie gives him first dibs you'd think. Go the Hurricanes.
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36 Go to commentsIf rugby wants to remain interesting in the AI era then it will need to work on changing the rules. AI will reduce the tactical advantage of smart game plans, will neutralize primary attacking weapons, and will move rugby from a being a game of inches to a game of millimetres. It will be about sheer athleticism and technique,about avoiding mistakes, and about referees. Many fans will find that boring. The answer is to add creative degrees of freedom to the game. The 50-22 is an example. But we can have fun inventing others, like the right to add more players for X minutes per game, or the equivalent of the 2-point conversion in American football, the ability to call a 12-player scrum, etc. Not saying these are great ideas, but making the point that the more of these alternatives you allow, the less AI will be able to lock down high-probability strategies. This is not because AI does not have the compute power, but because it has more choices and has less data, or less-specific data. That will take time and debate, but big, positive and immediate impact could be in the area of ref/TMO assistance. The technology is easily good enough today to detect forward passes, not-straight lineouts, offside at breakdown/scrum/lineout, obstruction, early/late tackles, and a lot of other things. WR should be ultra aggressive in doing this, as it will really help in an area in which the game is really struggling. In the long run there needs to be substantial creativity applied to the rules. Without that AI (along with all of the pro innovations) will turn rugby into a bash fest.
24 Go to commentsSouth Africa rarely play Ireland and France on these tours. Mostly, England, Scotland and Wales. I wonder why
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2 Go to commentsHats off to Fabian for a very impressive journey to date. Is it as ‘uniquely unlikely’ as Rugby Pass suggests, given Anton Segner’s journey at the Blues?
3 Go to commentsSad that this was not confirmed. When administrators talk about expanding the game they evidently don’t include pathways to the top tier of rugby for teams outside of the old boys club. Rugby deserves better, and certainly Georgia does.
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