Weekend talking points: Lions' speculation, Rassie rumours, and the return of European rugby
There’s still plenty of time to wonder who will make the plane for this summer’s big New Zealand tour before Warren Gatland spoils all our fun… And then there’s the never-ending Rassie stories.
The Lions are coming – but who are they?
Now the Six Nations is over, thoughts can legitimately turn to the Lions tour of New Zealand in June. The next big date to mark in your rugby diary is April 19, when Warren Gatland unveils his squad. One late name to throw into any Lions debate is the much-maligned Chris Robshaw, once a Lions captain-in-waiting, who blew his chances when England blew their 2013 Grand Slam in Cardiff on his captaincy watch.
At the weekend, Robshaw returned from 12 weeks – and an entire Six Nations – out with a shoulder injury to attract Gats’ attention with a fine 80-minute performance as Harlequins destroyed Newcastle. Another may be Leicester’s Ellis Genge, who has rather disappeared from England’s prop radar, but who owned not one but two of his Northampton opposite numbers.
Meanwhile, on the day Owen Farrell outplayed George Ford, Saracens boss Mark McCall said that Chris Ashton and Sean Maitland should be in the mix. So, until April 19, enjoy the theorising over a pint or two. Or three. Then there’s just the question of how many matches the Lions could actually win in their 10-match, month-long tour.
Europe’s back
No sooner has Europe’s biggest international tournament taken its final curtain call, then Europe’s biggest club competitions return for their quarter-final acts, with the remaining teams facing very different problems.
Following their tragic performance against Stade Francais at the weekend, Toulon have six days for a dramatic turnaround otherwise they will be annihilated at Clermont; Toulouse, who head to Munster, are in the same boat as Toulon after a miserable Top 14 day trip to Bordeaux; Leinster looked sluggish in victory over Cardiff Blues – hardly ideal preparation for Wasps’ visit next weekend – while Saracens’ eight-try demolition of Bath is the perfect run-in for their last-eight tie against Glasgow.
In the second-tier Challenge Cup, Ospreys, who lost to Treviso at the weekend, face a post-strike Stade Francais; after their hammering at Saracens on Sunday, Bath will be pleased they did enough to secure a home tie against poor travellers Brive; Edinburgh won’t be looking forward to the arrival of runaway Top 14 leaders La Rochelle, while the ambitions of Blues opponents Gloucester to return to Europe’s top table rest on winning this competition.
You pay your money and – until kick-off at least – you argue your choices.
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League changes actually mean Bristol’s future is bright
In rugby, as in most sports, a mathematical chance is about as good as no chance – the last refuge of a desperate, reality-denying fan. While the sums give the Aviva Premiership’s basement club a shot at survival, the fixture list says otherwise. The next three of their final four matches are against the league’s top three, Wasps, Exeter and Saracens, before a last-day farewell against Newcastle at Ashton Gate. But don’t mourn them. This relegation future has been an increasing probability for some time, but astute deals – from new coach Pat Lam to Ian Madigan and Steve Luatua, and the determined support of wealthy owner Stephen Lansdown – and the end of the ridiculous play-off system for promotion from the Championship, mean that barring something approaching the end of days an immediate return is more than likely, as is the fact they’ll do rather better next time.
Rassie rumours
Those stories about Munster director of rugby Rassie Erasmus’s return to South Africa just won’t go away. The latest, from South Africa’s Rapport newspaper, suggests he could even return to his old job as DoR of the national side – the job he left in April 2016 following a reported falling out with then-SARU president Oregan Hoskins, and shortly after the appointment of Allister Coetzee as Bok coach, in time for the three-match series against France in June.
FFR v LNR
When politics and sports mix the result is often volatile, as the explosive relationship between the French rugby union and the organisation that runs the domestic professional game proves. It looks and sounds a lot like a playground spat between two gangs of spoiled kids, but this particular playground spat could have big repercussions.
Ignore the spark, the proposed merger of Racing 92 and Stade Francais. That was merely the excuse the two sides needed for a bit of a barney. It’s no secret that the LNR has effectively run French rugby for the past decade – to the benefit of the clubs, and the detriment of the national side. But the FFR’s new president Bernard Laporte and his enforcer Serge Simon are determined to change that, and are busy sharpening the union’s teeth.
Calling out the league on its handling of the merger farce and its aftermath (the LNR reacted like a shocked cat after its indulgent owner smacked it on the nose for scratching the furniture) is just a minor skirmish in a longer battle for central contracts and national side supremacy.
Lineout tactics
One just for the forwards. Order your round. Watch this from the weekend’s French ProD2 match between Narbonne and Vannes:
A French standoff. Bizarre moment in a French ProD2 game over the weekend. Surely a turnover for not using it?
Posted by Rugby Pass on Saturday, 25 March 2017
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Exciting place to be for the young fella. I expected he was French Polynesian when I saw him included in the France 6N squad (after seeing him in NZs), and therefor be strong grounds we might loose him to rugby down here. Good, in that he is good enough to warrant such a profile, and from a journalism’s fan interaction aspect, to finally get a back ground story on the fella. Hope he has settled into NZ OK and that at least one rugby country will fit with him to help his development, which, if so, he should surely continue for a few years, and then that he can experience France to it’s fullest with a bit more maturity and less reliance on family than you would have at his current age. A good 3 or 4 years before he would be ready for International duty if he wanted to wait. Of course he already sounds good enough to accept a call up, and to cap himself, in the more immediate future (he’d have to be very very good in the case of the ABs), and he’ll get a great taste of that being with the Canes who have a bunch who are just a few years further into their career and looking likely Internationals themselves.
11 Go to commentsI remember towards the end of the original broadcasting deal for Super rugby with Newscorp that there was talk about the competition expanding to improve negotiations for more money - more content, more cash. Professional rugby was still in its infancy then and I held an opposing view that if Super rugby was a truly valuable competition then it should attract more broadcasters to bid for the rights, thereby increasing the value without needing to add more teams and games. Unfortunately since the game turned professional, the tension between club, talent and country has only grown further. I would argue we’re already at a point in time where the present is the future. The only international competitions that matter are 6N, RC and RWC. The inter-hemisphere tours are only developmental for those competitions. The games that increasingly matter more to fans, sponsors and broadcasters are between the clubs. Particularly for European fans, there are multiple competitions to follow your teams fortunes every week. SA is not Europe but competes in a single continental competition, so the travel component will always be an impediment. It was worse in the bloated days of Super rugby when teams traversed between four continents - Africa, America, Asia and Australia. The percentage of players who represent their country is less than 5% of the professional player base, so the sense of sacrifice isn’t as strong a motivation for the rest who are more focused on playing professional rugby and earning as much from their body as they can. Rugby like cricket created the conundrum it’s constantly fighting a losing battle with.
3 Go to commentsOh wow… “But as La Rochelle proved in winning in Cape Town this season, a cross-continental away assignment need not spell the end of days.” La Rochelle actually proved quite the opposite. After traveling to Cape town and back they (back-to-back and current champs) got mercilessly thumped the next week. If travel is not the reason, why else would a full-strength powerhouse like La Rochelle get dumped on their @r$e$ one week later?
26 Go to commentsYou know he can land a winning conversion after the full time siren is up. (Even if it takes two attempts.)
5 Go to commentsA very insightful article from Jake. I would love to know how South African’s feel about their move to Europe. Do you prefer playing in Europe or want to go back to Super Rugby?
3 Go to commentspure fire
1 Go to commentsA very well thought out summary of all the relevant complications…agree with your ”refer the Cricket Test versus 20/20 comparison”. More also definitely doesn't necessarily mean better!
3 Go to commentsMust be something when you are only 19 y.o and both NZ and France want you. Btw he wasn’t the only new caledonian in french U20 as Robin Couly also lived in Noumea until 17. Hope he’s successful wherever he chooses to play.
11 Go to comments“Several key players in the Stade Rochelais squad are in their thirties” South Africans are going to hate the implications of that comment!
5 Go to commentsI know Leinster did a job on La Roche but shortly after HT Leinster were 30-13 ahead of them and at a similar time Toulouse were trailing Exeter. At 60 mins Leinster were 27 ahead but after 67 mins Toulouse were only 19 ahead before Exeter collapsed. That’s heavier scoring by Leinster against the Champions. I think people are looking at Toulouses total a little too much. I also think Northhampton are in with a real chance, albeit I’d put Leinster as favourites. If Leinster make the final I expect them to win by more than ten and with control.
5 Go to commentsHey Nick, your match analysis is decent but the top and tail not so much, a bit more random. For a start there’s a seismic difference in regenerating any club side over a test team. EJ pretty much had to urinate with the appendage he’d been given at test level whereas club success is impacted hugely by the budget. Look no further than Boudjellal’s Toulon project for a perfect example. The set ups at La Rochelle and Leinster are like chalk and cheese and you are correct that Leinster are ahead. Leinster are not just slightly ahead though, they are light years ahead on their plans, with the next gen champions cup team already blooded, seasoned and developing at speed from their time manning the fort in the URC while the cream play CC and tests. They have engineered a strong talent conveyor belt into their system, supported by private money funnelled into a couple of Leinster private schools. The really smart move from Leinster and the IRFU however is maximising the Irish Revenue tax breaks (tax relief on the best 10 years earnings refunded at retirement) to help keep all of their stars in Ireland and happy, while simultaneously funding marquee players consistently. And of course Barrett is the latest example. But in no way is he a “replacement for Henshaw”, he’s only there for one season!!! As for Rob Baxter, the best advice you can give him is to start lobbying Parliament and HMRC for a similar state subsidy, but don’t hold your breath… One thing Cullen has been very smart with is his coaching team. Very quickly he realised his need to supplement his skills, there was talk of him exiting after his first couple of years but he was extremely shrewd bringing in Lancaster and now Nienaber. That has worked superbly and added a layer that really has made a tangible difference. Apart from that you were bang on the money… 😉😂
5 Go to commentsNot sure exactly what went wrong for him at Glasgow but it’s pretty clear he ain’t Franco’s cup of tea. Suspect he would have been better served heading out of Scotland around the same time as Finn, Hoggy and Jonny!
1 Go to commentsBulls disrespected the Northampton supporters and the competition. Decide quickly, fully in or out.
26 Go to commentsI wonder if Parling was ever on England’s radar as a coach? Obviously Borthwick is a great lineout coach, but I do worry he might be taking on too much as both head coach and forwards coach.
1 Go to commentsJason Jenkins has one cap. When Etzebeth was his age he had over 80 caps. Experience matters. He will never amount to what Etzebeth has because he hasn’t been developed as an international player.
2 Go to commentsSays much about the player picking this gig over the easier and bigger rewards offered to him in Japan. Also says a lot about the state sanctioned tax benefits the Irish Revenue offers pro rugby players, with their ten highest earning years subject to an additional 40% tax relief and paid as a lump sum, in cash, at retirement. Certainly helps Leinster line up the financial ducks in a row to fund marquee signings like this!!! No other union anywhere in world rugby benefits from this kind of lucrative financial sponsorship from their government…
5 Go to commentsTrue Jordie could earn a lot more in Japan. But by choosing Leinster he’ll be playing with 1 of the best clubs in the world and can win a champions cup and URC…..
6 Go to commentsThanks for that Marshy, noticed you didn't say who is gonna win it. We know who ain't gonna win it - your Crusaders outfit. They've gone from having arguably the best Super Rugby first five ever, to having a clutch of rookies. Hurricanes all the way!
1 Go to commentsGeez you really have to question the NRLs ability to produce players of quality. Its pathetic. Dont the 25mil in Aus produce enough quality womens players. Sad.
1 Go to commentsBulls fan here, and agree 100% with the conclusion (and little else) of this article. SA sides should absolutely f-off from the champs cup until we get fair scheduling, equal support for travel arrangements and home semis. You know, like all the european teams get.
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