The French Enigma - Part 1: Real deal or another false dawn after near-decade of malaise?
Even to themselves, France are an enigma after a near-decade of malaise on the Test stage. They have the talent and they have the numbers but putting it all together to mount a serious challenge for the Six Nations has been beyond them.
However, with a home World Cup looming, a new coaching set-up and political stability, there is at last optimism for a squad turning heads so far in the 2020 Guinness championship. Next up is Wales – their chief tormentors in 2019 – and it will be the stiffest test yet of Fabien Galthie’s young charges.
Here to help RugbyPass dissect the state of play in French rugby in the first part of a two-part series are three experts on Les Bleus: Aurelien Bouisset, rugby reporter at L’Equipe, Illtud Dafydd, reporter for Agence France-Presse and Paul Eddison, a long-time Francophile and chief sportswriter for Beat Media Group.
France have the second biggest playing base in the world next to England. Is the fact they have finished in the top half of the Six Nations only twice since their 2010 Grand Slam a source of embarrassment?
Illtud Dafydd: It’s more disappointment. You have to remember they have challenged on the world stage reaching three World Cup finals, but it has just gone downhill since 2011. There have been poor coaching appointments, poor selection and a lack of consistency over key positions like half-back. For 2020, I like the youthful look to Fabien Galthie’s squad. Take Romain Ntamack, he’s young but already a two-time U20s World Cup winner, an U20s Six Nations winner and has played in a successful Toulouse side. Some credit must go to Bernard Laporte. He isn’t just an administrator, he has a coach’s eye, so he has fast-tracked youngsters.
Paul Eddison: They have now got to the stage where they have accepted it’s not acceptable to struggle for that long. If you look back at France since they were admitted to the Five Nations in the 1950s and won their first title, they hadn’t gone more than four years without winning another trophy, so this 10-year gap is the longest drought yet and has made it easier to get the clubs on board. They realise they can’t afford for France to be in a mess heading towards 2023.
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Aurelien Bouisset: The feeling in France is that this barren patch crept up on people. France won the 2010 Grand Slam and made the 2011 World Cup final so Les Bleus hid behind that for some time. The focus was on World Cup cycles, so it was swept under the carpet. They were dining out on older and older memories. It was only quite recently, when Guy Noves was sacked, that they realised nothing was changing. People realised it wasn’t just Jacques Brunel, the malaise had been embedded for some time. Another factor was Toulouse and latterly Toulon’s success in Europe was hiding a lack of success on the Test stage. The old thinking was that even when France weren’t that good, they could make the World Cup final but lots of sides have improved since then.
How much blame can be laid at the door of the Top 14 for France’s travails – have they now realised a poor national team can be bad for business?
ID: It’s something they knew anyway but didn’t want to accept. Compare it to Wales. With ‘Team Wales’ everyone watches them, all the build-up is about them. Champions Cup and PRO14 games are put on the back burner. In France, however, there were 26,000 watching Racing 92 against Toulouse on Sunday night and Bordeaux-Begles had a sell-out of 33,000 on the weekend against Lyon for the first time since 2015. There is such an affinity and emotional bond with the hometown clubs. I’ll give you an example, when I asked Maxime Medard if he thought his performances merited a call-up for France, I got a few quizzical looks as if to ask, ‘Why are you asking him about that, we’re on club time?’ That said, relationships have improved massively, both administratively and in sporting terms.
PE: The Top 14 is an easy target. It’s too easy to say ‘there are too many foreign players’ because with 14 clubs young players get as many if not more opportunities than elsewhere. The style of play sometimes doesn’t help. Some clubs that will just play huge packs to overwhelm sides. To play at international level, you need to play at a higher tempo. Politically, France is as stable as it has been for a while. The national team going well helps. At the end of the year, there will be the FFR elections and Laporte will be challenged by Florian Grill who has the support of Guy Noves, Serge Blanco and Fabien Pelous – some big hitters. Laporte is desperate to stay on for the 2023 World Cup, given how involved he was in getting the tournament. The vote is very political but Laporte knows how to lobby. He’s given Galthie the coaching set-up he wants. Raphael Ibanez is on board to help with player and club liaison and they have more time with players than they have ever had. They kept 28 players during the rest weekend which is unprecedented.
AB: The relationship between the FFR and the LNR was awful from day one since the league was founded over 20 years ago. When Bernard Laporte took over with vice-president Serge Simon, they really wanted to destroy the league because they wanted the clubs to be under FFR control and use all the money for France. They wanted Top 14 president Paul Goze to step away. It was the time when the relationship was at its worst, so bad that you wondered if they could reach some sort of agreement. Maybe Laporte was weakened because of his links to the Altrad affair but both warring parties agreed on a truce. They realised France’s poor results were bad for everyone. Even under Jacques Brunel, they started to give a little more freedom for players to rest or be available for training camps. Now with Galthie, the squad is bigger than ever. They have 42 players in camp. Progress is there for all to see.
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Jacques Brunel’s two-year tenure was largely low-key and uninspiring, were there any positives to his legacy?
ID: Results-wise it was very bad. People felt sorry for him more than anything. He was parachuted in by Laporte after he had a fallout with Guy Noves, but Brunel was never going to refuse to be the French head coach. He was a safe pair of hands, nothing more.
PE: Historically he will be seen as a stop-gap. Laporte and Noves hadn’t seen eye-to-eye from the off. It wasn’t his man and it was clear he was going to get rid of him whereas Brunel was one of Laporte’s assistant coaches and was seen as quite revolutionary at the time with some of the attacking ideas he brought in. Anything going forward will have Galthie’s mitts on them. Brunel brought in some young players, like Dupont, but you feel he’d have come through anyway with his talent.
AB: I don’t think so. His legacy will be his work as assistant coach to Bernard Laporte or head coach to Perpignan when they won the league. He won’t be remembered for the couple of years he had in charge of Les Bleus. Everyone thinks that the reason we were decent at the World Cup was because Galthie arrived a little bit earlier with Laurent Labit and a new fitness team. No one will say it’s thanks to Jacques Brunel that we nearly beat Wales at the World Cup. Indeed, Brunel was contracted to June 2021 because at first the FFR thought he could keep coaching Les Bleus until after the World Cup. They wondered whether to wait for Joe Schmidt to be available but they realised it wasn’t possible. They had to act. They worried they might not make it out of the pool in Japan. It was the wisest decision they’ve made.
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France were so, so close to reaching a World Cup semi-final against South Africa after outplaying Wales – did that act as a kick-starter for a renewed push on the international stage?
ID: There was signs of Galthie’s influence in that performance against Wales. The defence was a bit more organised. They were quicker off the line and Virimi Vakatawa was basically unplayable. It whet the appetite enough for the Stade de France to be sold out weeks in advance for the England game.
PE: There is a feeling that France owe Wales one. You had the Six Nations game when they went 16-0 up against Wales and gifted them two tries and the World Cup quarter-final – they should have won both games. I don’t think there will be the fear that there was there a while back but there is a little pressure on them. Remember, Noves started off with two wins in 2016 and then lost 27-6 to Wales in Cardiff. This is a Wales side in transition. They are starting their journey to the World Cup, too. There is hope, more than expectation.
AB: The rugby public were happy with how France performed on the world stage. Players like Penaud, Dupont, Ntamack and Vakatawa are young and should be available for 2023. If you listened to the logic from the fans, they were saying, we nearly beat Wales, who nearly beat South Africa, so we weren’t too far away from winning something. Galthie is more of a realist. He knew France had narrowly lost 10-12 games in the past few years and there were deep-seated problems. France got into bad habits.
(Part two will be published on Wednesday…)
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Pot Kettle, the English and French teams have done it for years.
19 Go to commentsHas virtually played every minute of previous games. Back row of Li Lo Willie , Grace and Blackadder would be the 1. Crusaders issue is a very average 1st 5 who cannot run. Kicking in general play is also below par They need to put Yong Kemara in. He must have so.e talent for them to bring him down from Waikato. Hoehepa would struggle to play in so.e club sided
4 Go to commentsI hope this a good thing making all these changes!
2 Go to commentsThe Hurricanes are good, especially with a decent coach now. However, let’s be real, the Crusaders and Chiefs are clearly a good degree weaker without the players they’ve lost overseas now. The Canes lost one player. It’s also why the aussie teams ‘seem’ to be stronger.
9 Go to commentsOr you could develop your own players instead of constantly taking from the SH competition and weakening it in the process? With all the player and financial resources these unions have compared to SH countries you’d think they could manage that, or is weakening the SH comps and their national sides an added bonus? Probably.
3 Go to commentsNot so fast Aaron, we might need you in black yet lol. God knows he’d be a lot less nerve-racking than hot and (very) cold players like Perofeta. It’s really a shame Reuben Love isn’t playing 10, we’ve got enough 15 options.
4 Go to commentsAnd those from the NH still seem to be puzzled (and delighted) why NZ’s depth isn’t what it once was. Over 600 NZ players overseas, that’s insane. This sort of deal is why Super Rugby coaches have admitted they struggle now to find enough quality to fill out their squads.
6 Go to commentsArticle intéressant ! La question devrait régulièrement se poser pour les jeunes français originaires de Nouvelle-Calédonie, Wallis-et-Futuna et de Polynésie entre la Nouvelle-Zélande et la Métropole… Difficile pour la fédération française de rugby de se positionner : soit le choix est fait de dénicher les jeunes talents et de les faire venir très tôt en Métropole, au risque de les déraciner, soit on prend le risque de se les faire “piller” par les All Blacks qui, telle une araignée, essaye de récupérer tous les talents des îles du Pacifique… À la France de se défendre en développant l’aura du XV de France et des clubs français dans ses collectivités d’Outre-mer !
3 Go to commentsWrong bay. He needs to come to the REAL BAY which is Bay Of Plenty and have a crack at making the Chiefs.
3 Go to commentsIs Barrett going play full back??? They already have all the centers…
15 Go to commentsForgive my ignorance, I might not fully understand so would appreciate clarification: Didn’t the Bulls have to fly with three different carriers, paid for by the South African Rugby Union, whilst Edinburgh got a chartered flight sponsored by EPCR? Also, as far as I understand it South African teams don’t yet share in the revenue from the competition and are not allowed to host Semi-finals or Finals at home. Surely if everyone wants South Africans to “take the competition seriously” then they must make South Africans feel welcome, allow them to share in the revenue, and give them the same levels of access as the teams from the other countries. Just a reminder that South Africa has a large and passionate Rugby audience. Just by virtue of our teams being a part of these competitions means that more of us are likely to watch the knockout games, even if our teams haven’t qualified. It would be silly to alienate such a large audience by making them feel unwelcome.
19 Go to commentsFirst of all. This guy is very much behind the curve. All the bleating, whingeing, whining and moaning took place days ago already. Not adding anything to the topic other than more bleating, whingeing, whining and moaning. 🍼 Second of all, not one mention of the fact that South African teams can’t get home semi finals or finals. The tournament was undermined and devalued by the administrators. 🤡 Thirdly, football teams often have to juggle selections in mid week games, premier games, champions league games etc. and will from time to time prioritize certain titles over others. 🐒 And lastly FEK Neil, and anyone else for that matter, for insisting on telling teams how to manage themselves. If they make what is largely a business decision that suits them and doesn’t suit you - tough shite. 💩 It’s not rocket science as to why the Bulls did what they did. If this guy is too slow to figure it out (and is deliberately not mentioning one of the key reasons why) then he isn’t a journalist. He should join the rest of us pundit plebs in comments section. 🥴
19 Go to commentsSo the first door to knock on Rob is Parliament followed by HMRC. The Irish Revenue deliver a 40% tax relief rebate on the HIGHEST EARNING TEN YEARS of every pro Irish rugby players contract earnings at retirement. That goes a long way to both retaining their best talent and freeing up wages for marquee players. Who knows, if that had been in place in the UK, you might not have been able to poach Hoggy and Jonny Gray from Glasgow…!!!
3 Go to comments1. True, if that “free” ticket means access to all but the prized exhibit - EVIP only. SA cannot host semis, even if they’ve earned it (see Sharks vs ASM Clermont Auvergne at… Twickenham Stoop). 2. Why no selective outrage over Lyon doing the exact same thing a week earlier? Out of all the countries France send the most “B teams”, why nobody talking about “disrespect” and “prioritising domestic leagues” and “kicking them out”? 3. Why no mention of the Sharks fielding all of their Springboks for the second rate Challenge cup QF? No commitment? 4. Why no mention of all the SA teams qualifying for respective euro knock out comps in the two seasons they’ve been in it? How many euro teams have qualified for KO’s in their history? Can’t compete? 5. Why no mention of SA teams beating French and English giants La Rochelle and Saracens? How many euro teams have done that in their history? Add no quality? The fact is that SA teams are only in their second season in europe, with no status and a fraction of the resources. Since joining the URC, SA has seen a repatriation of a number of players, and this will only grow once SA start sharing in the profits of competing in these comps, meaning bigger squads with greater depth and quality, meaning they don’t have to prioritise comps as they have to now - they don’t have imports from Pacifica and South America and everywhere else in between like “European” teams have - also less “Saffas” in Prem and T14, that’s what we want right? 'If the South Africans are in, they need to be all in' True, and we have to ensure we give them the same status and resources as we give everyone else to do just that. A small compromise on scheduling will go a long way in avoiding these situations, but guess what, France and England wont compromise on scheduling because they ironically… prioritise their domestic comps, go figure!
19 Go to commentsthe success of the premiership can be summarized by : only 10 teams. It makes a huge difference with the overcrowded top 14 (let us not talk about Leinster and URC…)
1 Go to commentsGood for him. The ABs were fooling around again with converted fullbacks that had a penetration of a marshmallow. Laumape or as Aki has shown for Ireland, go forward is important in the centres. If it had been DMac - Aki- Aumua - Ioane- Telea- Jordan in France the final result would have been different.
4 Go to commentsDan Carter a apporté son professionnalisme, des méthodes de travail, un esprit qui manquaient à l’USAP. Son influence, même une fois blessé a été énorme. Et pour citer une anecdote, certains soirs il venait de lui-même à l’entraînement des jeunes pour dispenser ses conseils. On ne peut pas compter ce qu’il a apporté au club en heures de jeu sur le terrain. Est-ce que le club en a eu pour son argent ? Avec la publicité sur son nom et le titre, je suppose que oui.
1 Go to commentsThe SA sides are suffering from a bum rap here. There isn’t a side anywhere in the world that would do things differently in their shoes. They’ve been set up to fail in the EPCR comps by vested interests, with last minute intercontinental travel requirements that costs an arm and a leg to book in advance just on the possibility they might be required. And the total nonsense that denies any chance of home venues is entirely biased and absolutely unsporting. Either EPCR, the Top14 & the Gallagher Premiership get it sorted on a fair and equitable sporting basis for ALL participants or expect the ridicule to continue. Right now, these comps are a joke!
19 Go to commentsSA sides should do the right thing and leave the champions cup, they are lowering the standard with completely one sided games, not up to the right level. The greatest club tournament in the world is being banjaxed by the weak SA sides.
19 Go to commentsCouldnt agree more. SA sides need to show more committment and really have a go at the Champions Cup. Its quite possibly the most prestigious title in Europe and SA sides need to respect that prestige and serve up their best. EPCR needs to do more to ensure that sides from South Africa and sides travelling to and from SA have a better chance in this competition. The Bulls were put in a really difficult position of having to travel there and back in one week. One could argue that this is what the SA sides signed up for and that La Rochelle didnt complain or send out weakened sides despite having to travel to SA and back and play on successive weekends but surely the situation is also unfair on La Rochelle as well and so EPCR needs to think about successive gameweeks and the travel effect of the competition
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