'That's what rugby should be about and I'm a big believer in that'
Rob Baxter has defended his decision to bring as strong an Exeter squad as possible to South Africa for this weekend’s Heineken Champions Cup game versus the Bulls rather than rest up his main players ahead of the following week’s round four January 21 match at home to Castres.
The Chiefs are currently second to Leinster in Pool A having beaten Castres away and the Bulls in Devon and with eight teams qualifying for the round of 16 from that group, it would have been understandable if the Gallagher Premiership club opted to send an understrength squad to Pretoria.
After all, it won’t be until next Monday lunchtime that they arrive back at Sandy Park following their southern hemisphere trip, leaving them with a shorter than usual preparation window for the group-ending round four match against the visiting French.
However, Baxter has always been of the belief that if a team isn’t dead in the Champions Cup it should be fighting as hard as possible to get a result and that has been his approach to this week with Exeter down in South Africa as they seek to become the first English club to win there following the December defeats for Harlequins at the Sharks and London Irish at the Stormers.
“It’s a great opportunity for us to bond as a group,” he claimed at his midweek media conference which was conducted via Zoom from the club’s Pretoria hotel across the road from the Loftus Versfeld stadium. “In a way, it is a shame that we can’t have some more players over here but it is a great opportunity for the guys that are here to do something a little bit different.
“Senior players are very much leading the way, it’s a kind of mini-tour in some ways. We’re not trying to control every minute of every day for them. We have a training programme laid out, the players have laid down the rules as to what is acceptable at meetings, timings, kit to wear, this type of stuff.
“The senior guys have taken it on board to make it a quite well-run, well-managed, feel-good vibe scenario and it’s a nice chance to train morning, having the middle of the day off and then training late afternoon. It fills the days nicely. We went out for a team meal away from the hotel on Tuesday and have some activities lined up on Thursday, so that is the kind of energy vibe we want to make around the place.
“Rugby-wise we are aware it is a big challenge, the Bulls are particularly good at home. We’re right here next to the ground so we can see what the stadium is like and we’re preparing with as much detail as we would any other game. We’re taking it very, very seriously. We brought our strongest available squad, we genuinely want to give it a go.
“I’m a believer that if a competition is not dead you fight flat out for it. That is what we are going to do and I’ve got a feeling that anything we can take from the game on Saturday will be a real positive for us and will help us down the line. The players all wanted to come on this trip and we brought them, that is what rugby should be about and I am a big believer in that.”
Temperatures will still be as high as 26°c by the time of Saturday’s 7:30pm local time kick-off and while Baxter has issues with the concept of having South African clubs participate in the Champions Cup, his attitude this week has been to just get on with things and embrace the Exeter trip.
“One of the difficulties with the travelling is that you are locked into the arrangements. Because the organisers have to make bookings as soon as they know the rounds the fixtures can then change due to TV, so we flew quite late on Sunday and that allowed us to play across the whole weekend (in the Premiership) and then we will travel back late which would have allowed us to play the Bulls Sunday if we had to.
“We get back to Sandy Park lunchtime Monday which is not the greatest prep going onto a match against Castres next Saturday at home but outside of that it’s here now, we have just got to embrace it. You can continually find fault with it. I was asked at the beginning if it is something I agree with. No, because Heineken Champions Cup is such a brilliant competition as it is.
“Do I understand why the South African teams want to get involved in it? 100 per cent I can. It aligns with their TV, with their viewing, aligns with everything. It’s not that I don’t understand the reasoning, that South African or perhaps even the global perspective, but it might be a more pertinent question if you ask me on Saturday evening. I might have a different answer for you.”
Travel to South Africa has at times proven difficult for the European teams involved in the United Rugby Championship as the trips can involve a number of different flights and squads being split up into two or three separate travel groups. However, according to Baxter, this didn’t happen with Exeter as the Champions Cup is an EPCR-organised tournament.
“We flew to Johannesburg as one group. I can’t criticise the travel arrangements at all. We organised our own bus from Sandy Park to Heathrow, there were people there to meet us to make sure we all got ourselves through in the correct way, the flight was on time, the BA staff were brilliant and we were met here at Johannesburg with a bus waiting. The arrangements here on the ground, I can’t fault them. It’s very well organised.”
What about the tournament’s strange format, though? When Exeter won the cup in 2019/20, they had to win five of their six pool matches to clinch home advantage in the eight-team quarter-finals. Now there are fears that clubs with just one win in their four pool games could make this year’s round of 16 knockouts.
“It is what it is,” shrugged the Chiefs coach. “I still think what you will find is the way it works as you get into that home advantage etc, you will still tend to see the teams that seem to be on form through the competition come through at the end. I still think it will feel like that.
“It looked like that last year, it didn’t ever feel that there was someone in there who fluked their way through and it will be similar… overall it seems to fit in fairly well within the programme (of matches across a season) albeit the one thing it does feel like for me personally is the early rounds (in December) do feel like a rush after the autumn internationals. You feel like they come very quickly.”
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It’s not up to Wales to support Georgian Rugby. That’s up to International Rugby and Georgia. I sympathise with Georgia’s decent attempt to create this fixture. But for Wales the proposed match up is just a potential stick to beat them with and a potential big psychological blow that young Welsh team doesn’t need. (I’m Irish BTW.)
2 Go to commentsCale certainly looks great in space, but as you say, he has struggled in contact. At 23 years old, turning 24 this year, he should be close to full physical maturity and yet there exists a considerable gap in the power and physicality required for international rugby. Weight doesn’t automatically equate to power and physicality either. Can he go from a player who’s being physically dominated in Super rugby to physically dominating in international rugby in 1 or 2 years? That’s a big ask but he may end up being a late bloomer.
27 Go to commentsIf rugby wants to remain interesting in the AI era then it will need to work on changing the rules. AI will reduce the tactical advantage of smart game plans, will neutralize primary attacking weapons, and will move rugby from a being a game of inches to a game of millimetres. It will be about sheer athleticism and technique,about avoiding mistakes, and about referees. Many fans will find that boring. The answer is to add creative degrees of freedom to the game. The 50-22 is an example. But we can have fun inventing others, like the right to add more players for X minutes per game, or the equivalent of the 2-point conversion in American football, the ability to call a 12-player scrum, etc. Not saying these are great ideas, but making the point that the more of these alternatives you allow, the less AI will be able to lock down high-probability strategies. This is not because AI does not have the compute power, but because it has more choices and has less data, or less-specific data. That will take time and debate, but big, positive and immediate impact could be in the area of ref/TMO assistance. The technology is easily good enough today to detect forward passes, not-straight lineouts, offside at breakdown/scrum/lineout, obstruction, early/late tackles, and a lot of other things. WR should be ultra aggressive in doing this, as it will really help in an area in which the game is really struggling. In the long run there needs to be substantial creativity applied to the rules. Without that AI (along with all of the pro innovations) will turn rugby into a bash fest.
24 Go to commentsSouth Africa rarely play Ireland and France on these tours. Mostly, England, Scotland and Wales. I wonder why
1 Go to commentsIt was a let’s-see-what-you're-made-of type of a game. The Bulls do look good when the opposition allows them to, but Munster shut them down, and they could not find a way through. Jake should be very worried about their chances in the competition.
2 Go to commentsHats off to Fabian for a very impressive journey to date. Is it as ‘uniquely unlikely’ as Rugby Pass suggests, given Anton Segner’s journey at the Blues?
1 Go to commentsSad that this was not confirmed. When administrators talk about expanding the game they evidently don’t include pathways to the top tier of rugby for teams outside of the old boys club. Rugby deserves better, and certainly Georgia does.
2 Go to commentsLions might take him on if they move on Van Rooyen but I doubt he will want to go back, might consider it a step backwards for himself. Sharks would take him on but if Plumtree goes on to win the challenge cup they will keep him on. Also sharks showing some promising signs recently. Stormers and Bulls are stable and Springboks are already filled up. Quality coach though, interesting to see where he ends up
1 Go to commentsAnd the person responsible for creating a culture of accountability is?
3 Go to commentsMore useless words from Ben Smith -Please get another team to write about. SA really dont need your input, it suck anyway.
264 Go to commentsThis disgraceful episode must result in management and coach team sackings. A new manager with worse results than previous and the coaching staff need to coached. Awful massacre led by donkeys.
1 Go to commentsInteresting article with one glaring mistake. This sentence: “And between the top four nations right now, Ireland, France, South Africa, and New Zealand…” should read: And between the top four nations right now, South Africa, Ireland, New Zealand and France…”. Get it right wistful thinkers, its not that hard.
24 Go to commentsHow did Penny get the gig anyway?
3 Go to commentsNice write up Nick and I would have agreed a week ago. However as you would know Cale & co got absolutely monstered by the Blues back row of Sotutu, Ioane and Papaliti and not all of these 3 are guaranteed a start in the Black jumper. He may need to put some kgs before stepping up, Spring tour? After the week end Joe will be a bit more restless. Will need to pick a mobile tough pack for Wales and hope England does the right thing and bashes the ABs. I like your last paragraph but I would bring Swinton, Hannigan into the 6 role and Bobby V to 8
27 Go to commentsThe Crusaders can still get in to the Play Off’s. The imminent return of outstanding captain Scott Barrett and his All Black team mate Codie Taylor will be a big boost.There are others like Tamaiti Williams too. Two home games coming up. Fellow Crusader fans get there and support these guys. I will be.
2 Go to commentsCant get more Wellington than Proctor.
2 Go to commentsWhy not let the media decide. Like how they choose the head coach. Like most of us we entrust the rugby system to choose. A rugby team includes the coaches. It's collective.
14 Go to commentsHi NIck, I have been very impressed with him and he seems a smart player who can see opportunities which Bobby V _(who must be an international 6_) doesn’t see or have the speed to take advantage of. If he continues to improve and puts on 5kgs then he could be a great 8. He is a bit taller than Keiran Reid at 1.93m and 111 kgs, so his skill set fits his body size and who knows where it will lead. I hope the spate of Achilles tendon issues have been dealt with by the S&C people. It’s been a very long time since Mark Loane and Kefu stood out at 8. The question is will we be able to hold onto him, if he does make it he will be pretty hot property. I disagree with the idea of letting them go to the Northern Hemisphere and then bring them back.
27 Go to commentsBilly Fulton 🤣🤣🤣🤣 garrrmon not even close
14 Go to commentsDoes the AI take into account refs? hahaha Seriously why not have two on field refs to avoid bias?
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