Jake White: Bok plots, Pollard's big ask and Eddie Jones
The one thing that struck me about the Springboks versus Ireland game – and I’m working the basis of the article I wrote about skill versus power – is that Ireland really like to start quickly. Their aim is to get points on the board early. If you watch their warm-ups pre-game, they are designed so that the hit the ground running when the whistle goes. They do it really well, and I see Leinster regularly doing it in the URC, and it is very difficult to stop.
However, in those first five lineouts Ireland didn’t create any pressure and the Springboks were able to gain a foothold in the game. Wearing your South African hat, the narrative since the game has been, ‘oh, well we missed our kicks, we didn’t finish those plays, or we missed a couple of opportunities’, but what Ireland will be looking at how they didn’t take those opportunities; how they weren’t clinical enough, switched-on enough, call it what you want, to win the game comfortably. In any other games they’ve started, they’d have converted those five metre lineouts three out of five times. Leinster, Munster or Ireland, that’s what they base their game on. That is why it is such an intriguing debate post game.
The Springboks said they got a lot out of it, by having a chance, even at the end of the game, to win outright at the last lineout but the maul was turned over. The margins are so tight and that’s what makes it such an interesting next game if they face each other again in this tournament. I read somewhere one of the Irish players saying he wouldn’t be surprised if those two sides meet each other again in the final. A lot of people would agree with that sentiment and be happy, because the standard of the game was really high. It was like two heavyweight boxers slugging it out in a classic and people desperate for a rematch.
On the flipside, a guy like Paul O’Connell, would have been looking at those first couple of lineouts and saying, ‘if we had those all over again, and we’re accurate, there’s no reason why we couldn’t have created a buffer between us and South Africa’. It depends on which side of the fence, you’re on, doesn’t it? Yet the fact remains that the Springboks haven’t beaten Ireland since 2016, which is quite something.
Looking ahead to the Tonga game this weekend, the big talking point is Handre Pollard back in the 10 shirt. It’s a good game for him to play because he should get a lot of ball with the forwards we have. They should give him a decent platform. I don’t think it will be a pressure situation from minute one, but I expect it will take him time to find his feet. It’s a tough ask for Handre because if he plays well, there will be an expectation for him to start the quarter-final against France, which is a massive step up in pressure. That’s why they pay the coaches the big bucks, to make those tough decisions. The pressure is white-hot out in France. Look at Manie Libbok. He’s kicked pretty well in the URC for the Stormers but he’s struggled off the tee in Test matches. That’s what pressure does to you. The fields are no different, the balls are no different, the conditions are no different but having the hopes of a nation on your shoulders can get to you. Handre has been in this position before, but the scrutiny will be about how quickly he can adapt. Tonga will want to put pressure on him if they can, because he’s been out for so long.
The best 10 in the game is Johnny Sexton, but even he needed a few games against Romania and Tonga to find his feet, and I expect Handre will be the same.
Someone asked me whether I think players are now playing for places in the Test side, but disagreed. If a player is doing that, he is at risk of playing outside the structure or gameplan of what the coaches want. The coaching staff will have a clear idea of what side they want to put out in a knock-out game, so I don’t believe one game is going to change four years of preparation. Tonga is about getting the job done, not playing yourself into the Test side.
The other rumour you see doing the rounds is that the Springboks threw the game to avoid the All Blacks, but you could say New Zealand are going to win the World Cup because they threw the game to France. You can use any scenario to back up your debate, but I don’t buy it. South Africa will not be panicking because they were the first side to lose a game and go on to win the competition, and anyway, there is no easy way to win a World Cup and that’s what makes this tournament so intriguing. There will be so many stories to come out in the next couple of weeks. I’m speaking from experience, too, not just saying that. In 1995, Andre Joubert had to go into a hyperbaric chamber for a hand injury incurred against Samoa. Then there was Chester Williams who came in for the suspended Pieter Hendriks, and Hendriks himself scoring a try at Newlands against the World Champion Wallabies at the time. Expect plenty more twists and turns.
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Selection-wise, at hooker, they can’t afford for Bongi to get injured, so they’ve rested him and hooker is one position where they want to see who is the best back-up in that position, Deon (Fourie) or Marco (van Staden).
Once they navigate Tonga, I know full focus will turn to France. Playing Les Bleus at any time is tough. Whether it’s at the end of their season, a mid-year tour to South Africa, or in November, they are a team that can beat any side, if they’re in the mood. What is in their favour is there is a huge groundswell of support from within. I haven’t been out in France, but what I’ve picked up is that the atmosphere created for that team is unbelievable. I’m suspecting that if Antoine Dupont runs out in a facemask the roar will be loud enough to be heard from miles around. If you remember Alexandre Dumas’ classic novel, he’s their man in the Iron Mask, and that hero status is worth a few points in itself. We know Julian Marchand is coming back and it wouldn’t surprise me if Paul Willemse is working very hard to make it back. Get a few of those players back on the field and it suddenly looks like a very intimidating French team.
Obviously, one of the biggest stories from the Pool stages is the sad exit of Australia. For me, their biggest problem is confidence. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Wallaby side with less of a swagger. As a nation, they are fighters and uber-competitive, so they will be hurting to ship 40 points to a Welsh side who had its own problems six months ago. As a coach, you often talk about taking years to build confidence up, but it can go overnight if you don’t get the rub of the ball. They have Portugal and some people are saying if they score early, they could put pressure on the Wallabies. That’s unthinkable.
I’m not sure what is going on in Eddie’s mind, but he could worried about the talent at his disposal. He knows the Lions are coming in 2025 and he’s worrying he doesn’t have the talent to turn them into contenders quickly enough, so he’s panicking. Eddie’s been around the block but it’s a far bigger job than even he realised. In hindsight, he was naïve to leave out the Michael Hooper and Quade Cooper and everyone associated with Australian rugby will want the season to end now so they can regroup and start from scratch. They have to get the show back on the road.
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Good summation Ned. Agree the Canes were out-muscled for once (except at the scrum!) by a focused Brumbies outfit. Tua deserves consideration for higher honors after the way he humbled Jordie and the Canes defense. Thankfully, his lack of eligibility for Oz keeps him from Joe’s plans. While I also agree the injuries affected the Canes performance, some players seemed to lack focus and intensity for this match. Perhaps after the Blues demolished the Brumbies, they thought it was going to be easy? A good reminder that any slip up in preparation can have a big affect on the result. Brumbies deserved that win.
1 Go to commentsKarl Dixon should never have been appointed this fixture, absolute disgrace, He’s not much of a referee anyway, didn't have the balls to send his mate care off
5 Go to commentsBrilliant article! Harry of 8/9
1 Go to comments‘UK athletes' have been in the NFL from the start.
1 Go to commentsIt’s going to be Scott Barrett. He’s the coaches mate and captain of a previously elite team. Ardie a great option but scooter has worked with the coach and Ardie still as big a leader as needed.
23 Go to commentsI commend Colin Scotts bio All Balls. He was the first Aussie to make it to NFL. But he was poached and did a full apprenticeship at the University of Hawaii. He was 130kgs surfed played 1st grade cricket etc. big guy by normal but not NFL standards and a top athlete. Even then the nfl were picking up Tongans and Samoans for their natural size and explosive power. They want explosive power not cardio from the big boys so a guy like Taniela Tupou would have been good if picked up young enough. He has fast twitch and they’d bulk the little lad up and give him something to do. soccer teams set up academies and look for Over Sara’s talent eg Messi was at Barcelona since a teenager and harry kewell went to Leeds as a teenager like 16 or something.
11 Go to commentsThe article alludes to the fact that this isn’t about picking a captain. But picking a great captain. So who would make for a great All Black captain - not just an obvious or safe shoo-in? I’m not sure Ardie’s the guy and Barret doesn’t stand out either.
23 Go to commentsI guess we may all agree on the fact, that the ABs and Boks are the two in contest for No 1 in rugby history (the triple-A sort of) …. the Wallabies, England and France are the next tier, with Ireland being the new kid in town (AA) …. in my view it makes little sense creating imaginary competitions (unless you have too much time to waste)
45 Go to commentsWhat a joke. Total joke and the pundits commentating, all of whom know a bit about the game, could barely disguise their contempt. Reaching for the card then pulling back when he realised a red card would carry further match suspensions is simply not his decision to make. A clear and obvious influence on the outcome of this match and indeed, the championship path.
5 Go to commentsI like the idea, in NZ the Ranfurly Shield and NPC coexist, both having their own bragging rights. The World Cup would be the pinnacle, but the competition and travels of these trophies would be interesting.
45 Go to commentsDon’t worry Sonny bill Williams leave that awkward situation about the curfew in the pass whoever it was it doesn’t matter its no big deal we back our All Blacks through the storm and the thunder until we see the Sun light again.
42 Go to commentsWho listens to this retard? He was a massive liability as a player but obviously a media sensation
42 Go to commentsI’m not surprised by such ‘virtue signalling’ by Sonny Boy. Butter wouldn’t melt in his mouth. He’s such a pious Islamic muppet, imo.
42 Go to commentsI’ve actually never heard of the guy (then I don’t watch League as it is boring). But if he is good enough.. then good luck to him. If not, well, he can always return to league.
2 Go to commentsIt is pretty clear that by almost any measure that NZ are a more successful rugby nation than South Africa. Quite aside from the distasteful events during the last RWC final. NZ lead SA in all significant measurements.
45 Go to commentsDickson went to his pocket for a card, saw who it was, changed his mind and spoke at length to TMO. One angle clearly shows Care diving over a Saints player to kill the ball. 1st yellow, reason given for not Red was player was falling backwards. He was only falling backwards after contact with Lawes. Graham try should have stood. Mitchell did not have both hands on the ball, ball went forward from a Saints boot dragging over it. 2 intentional knock-on's. One of which had an overlap on the outside. If Quins are happy to win by intentional foul play, then it does not say much for them. Would appear to be a bad day for Karl Dickson, also for the RFU in appointing a Ref who spent 8 years as a player at one of the clubs.
5 Go to commentsLet’s not forget about Ardie Savea just yet.
8 Go to commentsThe URC and the Euro Championscup can’t run at the same time, basically dilutes both competitions.
2 Go to comments“While Sotutu should start at No.8 for the All Blacks against England, but it’s only in that arena that he can prove just how good he really is.” And that my friends is where simply hasnt shone despite multiple opportunities. Even in this performance you can see what did him in in the test arena..he almost always still runs at the opposition almost ramrod upright making him easier to stop than it should be.
8 Go to commentsShould have been 0-0 and a message from SR CEO to both teams - “don’t worry about turning up next year”.
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