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Why Joe Marler retirement hint may leave England career in agonising spot

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Making England’s Autumn Nations Series will surely be the target for Joe Marler, who is still recovering from a broken foot suffered against the All Blacks in July.

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Should he make Steve Borthwick’s squad, which he would likely do if fully fit, he has a chance to add four more caps to his haul, which would leave him with a tally of 99 caps at the end of November.

The only problem for the 34-year-old is that he has hinted that his international career may come to an end after England’s quartet of matches against the All Blacks, Australia, South Africa and Japan.

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Joining Dan Cole and Ben Youngs on the For the Love of Rugby podcast recently, the Harlequins loosehead explained how his wife wants him to “stop in December”. While his front-row companion Cole suggested Borthwick could fashion a way for the 95-cap veteran to reach his century, Marler was less convinced.

“I never did [have an ambition to make 100 caps],” he said.

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“I always wanted 27, because Tim Payne got 26 [he actually won 22]. That was always my barometer. I went, ‘right, he’s got 26, I want to get 27’. And then when I got 27, I was like, done. And that’s why I retired 18 times. But I guess now it’s closer, I’d be lying if I said I hadn’t thought about it. But then, I’ve not really been one for milestones ever. I just enjoy playing.”

Youngs added: “But you are that close now, so you might as well do it.”

“Yeah, Daisy tells me that I have to stop in December,” Marler said. “So it means if I did make the Autumn squads and play in all four games, I’d end on 99. Well, I guess it’s probably fitting.”

Cole said: “You’d have to bring up Steve, and be like, ‘Steve, can you just play the Barbarians or something, make it a capped game for me?’ And then just have a one-off game just for you.

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Marler replied: “I’m not sure Steve’s that sentimental where he’d go, ‘Just roll you out for one game, one minute off the bench, just to get your 100.'”

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cw 4 hours ago
The coaching conundrum part one: Is there a crisis Down Under?

Thanks JW for clarifying your point and totally agree. The ABs are still trying to find their mojo” - that spark of power that binds and defines them. Man the Boks certainly found theirs in Wellington! But I think it cannot be far off for ABs - my comment about two coaches was a bit glib. The key point for me is that they need first a coach or coaches that can unlock that power and for me that starts at getting the set piece right and especially the scrum and second a coach that can simplify the game plans. I am fortified in this view by NBs comment that most of the ABs tries come from the scrum or lineout - this is the structured power game we have been seeing all year. But it cannot work while the scrum is backpeddling. That has to be fixed ASAP if Robertson is going to stick to this formula. I also think it is too late in the cycle to reverse course and revert to a game based on speed and continuity. The second is just as important - keep it simple! Complex movements that require 196 cm 144 kg props to run around like 95kg flankers is never going to work over a sustained period. The 2024 Blues showed what a powerful yet simple formula can do. The 2025 Blues, with Beauden at 10 tried to be more expansive / complicated - and struggled for most of the season.

I also think that the split bench needs to reflect the game they “want” to play not follow some rote formula. For example the ABs impact bench has the biggest front row in the World with two props 195cm / 140 kg plus. But that bulk cannot succeed without the right power based second row (7, 4, 5, 6). That bulk becomes a disadvantage if they don’t have a rock solid base behind them - as both Boks showed at Eden Park and the English in London. Fresh powerful legs need to come on with them - thats why we need a 6-2 bench. And teams with this split can have players focused only on 40 minutes max of super high intensity play. Hence Robertson needs to design his team to accord with these basic physics.



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