'I used to read all that and it used to get me up and down': What the under-fire All Blacks need to learn from 2011 ahead of Pumas rematch
It would be fair to say the All Blacks are under some of the most intense scrutiny in recent memory following their back-to-back losses to the Wallabies and Los Pumas.
Not that two of the squad’s key members have been paying any attention to the media criticism that has predominantly targeted head coach Ian Foster and skipper Sam Cane, though.
Speaking to media over Zoom on Monday, locks Patrick Tuipulotu and Sam Whitelock, the latter seen as the main challenger to Cane’s captaincy earlier this year, both agreed that the All Blacks are feeling the heat of public opinion right now.
That backlash was exacerbated last week when Cane told The Breakdown that some Kiwi fans might not know as much about rugby as they think, but neither Tuipulotu nor Whitelock are listening to the external noise.
“For us as All Blacks, we always put ourselves under immense pressure,” Whitelock – who played in both of New Zealand’s 24-22 and 25-15 Tri Nations defeats to Australia and Argentina, respectively – told reporters.
“I think where we put ourselves initially, we always demand ourselves to go out there and play really well, and it’s on the guys who are selected to go out and do that.
“So yes, there is a bit of pressure there at the moment, but the reality is there’s pressure there every week.”
Tuipulotu, who featured against Los Pumas at Sydney’s Bankwest Stadium a week-and-a-half ago, echoed his teammate’s sentiments.
“There’s always an internal pressure with the All Blacks standard and how we do things and I think that outweighs whatever pressure there is outside of this environment,” the second-rower said.
For Whitelock, the experience of losing two tests in a row is deja vu to some degree, given the 121-cap veteran is the only surviving squad member from the last All Blacks team to lose two matches on the trot.
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Starting in back-to-back tests against the Springboks in Port Elizabeth and Wallabies in Brisbane in 2011, Whitelock, then aged 22, and his teammates succumbed to consecutive defeats, the worst possible lead-up to the following month’s World Cup.
The weight of expectation on that All Blacks squad – who were hosts of the World Cup, a tournament New Zealand hadn’t won in 24 years – was colossal and much more significant than anything this side is feeling amid their current rut.
It was during that period that Whitelock learned a lesson he still leans on to this day, and one he hopes will help steer the All Blacks of present out of this tumultuous period ahead of their final test of the year against Argentina in Newcastle on Saturday.
“I had a really good learning early on in my career. Playing in the ‘11 World Cup, it was a time where we hadn’t won the World Cup for 24 years,” Whitelock recalled.
“Our media manager Joe Locke and Jo Malcolm got in front of the team and said, ‘Look, there’s going to be a lot of criticism, good, bad in the media, so if you don’t want to read it, don’t [want] to hear what people are saying, just don’t read it’.
“So for myself, I read and look at very little media stuff, social media stuff, because as a younger player, I used to read all that and it used to get me up and down.
“How people were commenting on your individual performance or the team performance, I was buying into that where some games I thought I’d had a really good game, and then someone would say I had a shocker, and also vice versa.
“You’d go out there and wouldn’t be happy with your performance and someone would be saying you had an awesome game, so it’s people’s opinions, people are allowed to have their opinions and I think that’s great.
“I think that’s what makes New Zealand so passionate about rugby and sport in general, so it’s cool that everyone’s got an opinion, but for me, I try not to read it.”
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It was three years after the All Blacks went on to break their World Cup hoodoo of nearly a quarter of a century before Tuipulotu made his international debut.
But, after six years in the national set-up and tasting defeat to Ireland in 2016, the Wallabies in 2017, the Springboks in 2018 and England in last year’s World Cup semi-final, the 27-year-old also knows a thing or two about facing adversity.
He understands the pressure that Foster, in particular, is under to finish the 2020 season on a much-needed high, and has vowed to do his best to accomplish just that – all while leaving a message for those who have called into question the All Blacks’ efforts.
“The coach is the face of the squad and he’s always going to be in the firing line, and if we lose two in a row, the coach is always going to get the blame,” Tuipulotu said.
“It’s on us to get a result and perform well, so when he is in the firing line, it’s good stuff from a good win, but it is what it is in this day and age, and you’re going to get a lot of ‘haters’, as we call it, but we just move on.”
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An on field red (aka a full red) in SRP must surely carry a bigger suspension than a red card given by the bunker as that carries a 20 minute team punishment. Had Damon Murphy abdicated his responsibility as a ref and issued both Drua players a yellow, which would have been upgraded to a 20 minute red by the bunker, that would have killed Australia and New Zealand’s push for the 20 minute red to be trialled globally from July this year.
11 Go to commentsEver so often you all post a Danny Care story that isn’t the announcement that he has finally re-signed for one more, victory tour season at Quins and I’m just like, “well you fooled me again!” My absolute favorite player ever, we need to make his final year at the Stoop (and Twickers) official already. I know he supposedly snubbed France but I won’t feel better until he signs.
1 Go to commentslate hit what late hit it wasn’t at all late and can clearly see he was committed before the tackle
1 Go to commentsChristian Lio -Willies 2 try perfomance was a standout. As was captain Scott Barrett. Up front was where the boys won it.They are a great team and players. Fantastic Crusades , you can keep going.
1 Go to commentsI don't know how the locals feel about that? I guess if you call yourselves the Worcester Wasps that might be appease. But really we need more teams in the Premiership in my view so they are not padding it out as they are at the moment. It might curtail so many players going abroad as well
5 Go to commentsNZ 😭😭😭is certainly rivaling England for best whingers cup!😭😭😭 !!!
24 Go to commentsYup. New Zealand won 3 out of 10 world cups played. SA 4 out of 8 attempts 30 Vs 50 per cent.🤔🤔
24 Go to commentsShould've done this years ago. Change Saturday kick off times to around 11am. Up and off and back home before 3pm, limit travel time too. Allows players to actually do something else with their Saturday that's family oriented or being rugby fans they could ‘watch’ pro rugby. Increases crowds etc. How can anyone that enjoys grassroots and pro rugby have to choose between the two on Saturdays?
9 Go to commentsI bet he inspired those supporters just as much.
1 Go to commentsBen Smith Springboks living rent free in his head 😊😂
67 Go to commentsGood to hear he would like to play the game at the highest level, I hadn’t been to sure how much of a motivator that was before now. Sadly he’s probably chosen the rugby club to go to. Try not to worry about all the input about how you should play rugby Joey and just try to emulate what you do on the league field and have fun. You’ll limit your game too much (well not really because he’s a standard athlete like SBW and he’ll still have enough) if you’re trying to make sure you can recycle the ball back etc. On the other hard, you can totally just try and recycle by looking to offload any and everywhere if you’re going to ground 😋
1 Go to commentsThis just proves that theres always a stat and a metric to use to justify your abilities and your success. Ben did it last week by creating an imaginary competition and now you did the same to counter his argument and espouse a new yardstick for success. Why not just use the current one and lets say the Boks have won 4 world cups making them the most successful world cup team. Outside of the world cup the All Blacks are the most successful team winning countless rugby championships and dominating the rankings with high win percentages. Over the last 4 years statistically the Irish are the best having the highest win rate and also having positive records against every tier 1 side. The most successful Northern team in the game has been England with a world cup title and the most six nations titles in history. The AB’s are the most dominant team in history with the highest win rate and 3 world cups. Lets not try to reinvent the wheel. Just be honest about the actual stats and what each team has been good at doing and that will be enough to define their level of success.
24 Go to commentsHow is 7’s played there? I’m surprised 10 or 11 man rugby hasn’t taken off. 7 just doesn’t fit the 15s dynamics (rules n field etc) but these other versions do.
9 Go to commentsPick Swinton at your peril A liability just like JWH from the Roosters Skelton ??? went missing at RWC
14 Go to commentsLike tennis, who have a ranking system, and I believe rugby too, just measure over each period preceding a world cup event who was the longest number one and that would be it. In tennis the number one player frequently is not the grand slam winner. I love and adore the All Blacks since the days of Ian Kirkpatrick when I was a kid in SA. And still do because they are the masters of running rugby and are gentleman on and off the field - in general. And in my opinion they have been the majority of the time the best rugby team in the world.
24 Go to commentsHaving overseas possessions in 2024 is absurd. These Frenchies should have to give the New Caledonians their freedom.
21 Go to commentsBell injured his foot didn’t he? Bring Tupou in he’ll deliver when it counts. Agree mostly but I would switch in the Reds number 8 Harry Wilson for Swinton and move Rob Valentini to 6 instead. Wilson is a clever player who reads the play, you can’t outmuscle the AB’s and Springboks, if you have any chance it’s by playing clever. Same goes for Paisami, he’s a little guy who doesn’t really trouble the likes of De Allende and Jordie Barrett. I’d rather play Carter Gordon at 12 and put Michael Lynagh’s boy at 10. That way you get a BMT type goalkicker at 10 and a playmaker at 12. Anyways, just my two cents as a Bok supporter.
14 Go to commentsThanks Brett, love your articles which are alway pertinent. It’s a difficult topic trying to have a panel adjudicating consistently penalties for red card issues. Many of the mitigating reasons raised are judged subjectively, hence the different outcomes. How to take away subjective opinions?
11 Go to commentsYes Sir! Surprising, just like Fraser would also have escaped sanction if he was a few inches lower, even if it was by accident that he missed! Has there really been talk about those sanctions or is this just sensational journalism? I stopped reading, so might have missed any notations.
11 Go to commentsAI is only as good as the information put in, the nuances of the sport, what you see out the corner of the eye, how you sum up in a split second the situation, yes the AI is a tool but will not help win games, more likely contribute to a loss, Rugby Players are not robots, all AI can do if offer a solution not the solution. AI will effect many sports, help train better golfers etc.
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