'Delusional' league plan could see Wales become 'permanent second tier' rugby nation
Plans by the Welsh Rugby Union (WRU) to create a new elite league below regional rugby for eight teams have been labelled as “delusional” and could have damaging financial implications, Pontypridd RFC have claimed.
Mark Rhydderch-Roberts, an executive board member of Pontypridd RFC, says that Welsh rugby cannot “shrink to greatness” while ignoring the clubs, their members, stakeholders and basic commercial realities.
He also claims that the WRU has been labouring under a “catastrophically damaging misapprehension” that the professional game can exist in a “bubble almost completely disconnected operationally and culturally” from the semi-professional and community game, as well as schools and universities.
The union has set out initial plans for a new league for eight teams from the 2024-25 season. If taken forward, it would be made up of four clubs drawn within the pathways of the four regions, a guaranteed place for Rygbi Gogledd Cymru (RGC), with the remaining three places from other clubs in the existing semi-professional Premiership. The league is currently made up of 12 teams, but is being increased to 14 from next season. Last year, the Premiership clubs unanimously rejected plans from the WRU to reduce the number to nine.
Speaking on behalf of the Sardis Road Premiership club, Rhydderch-Roberts, whose career in investment banking saw him holding executive roles with the likes of Swiss Re, USB Warburg, Schroders, and Societe Generale, said that financially, the WRU had publicly stated that they were currently unable to sustain four regions.
He added that they had also indicated that they could not sustain the semi-pro Welsh Premiership and had effectively withdrawn financial support and any semblance of leadership and structure. Therefore, it is “genuinely delusional to propose a new league at a time when the regional game appears to be in disarray at virtually every level and the game’s finances in unsustainable disarray.”
“The endless tinkering by the WRU over many years and the uncertainty that causes with the Welsh Premiership is destroying the spectator base, minimising sponsor interest, and weakening the roots of rugby in its core heartlands. It would be also difficult to see why any club benefactor or sponsor in the Welsh Premiership would wish to continue to provide financial support given the likely impact of these proposals,” he said.
Rhydderch-Roberts also said that any new proposals for a new elite league brought forward by the governing body would be consulted upon with members of the Sardis Road club. However, he added that it was “highly unlikely that Pontypridd RFC would ever vote to sanction the creation of the proposed elite league or participate in such a league. This would be to protect our commercial solvency and independence. It is also worth noting that the Welsh Premiership unanimously voted down just under a year ago a similar WRU proposal to reduce the league to nine clubs from the existing 12.”
“Any proposed league that sat between fully pro and semi-pro would, we strongly believe, be the death knell for the traditional heritage clubs that, unlike the Welsh regions, are deeply embedded in their communities and maintain the key connection with participants, spectators and members,” he added.
“We firmly believe that 14 is the optimum number of teams a league can sustain commercially, which would provide sufficient home games in terms of spectator interest and the commercial reinforcement of traditional tribal and team loyalties. We have no intention of jeopardising 150 years of proud independence and history. As directors, we have a fiduciary duty to ensure that our club remains solvent and financially viable.
“The WRU have consistently propagated a default strategy of managed decline allied to minimal investment and believe that somehow, despite all evidence to the contrary, Welsh rugby can shrink to greatness while ignoring the clubs, their members, stakeholders and basic commercial realities. This default strategy, in the complete absence of leadership, vision and any other coherent plans from the WRU board to develop the game, has led us to the desperate situation that Welsh rugby currently finds itself in. The proposal to create a new elite league above the Welsh Premiership is the strategy of a rudderless and institutionally incompetent organisation.”
He added: “This is not a new phenomenon and has been evident for over 20 years, compounded by a refusal to ever admit hugely damaging structural mistakes have been made.
“It is clear that for the last 20 years or so the WRU have been labouring under the catastrophically damaging misapprehension that somehow, the professional game can exist in a bubble almost completely disconnected operationally and culturally from the semi pro game, the community game, and schools and universities.
“Recent WRU figures on male adult participation are sobering in the extreme. The WRU have indicated verbally that their best estimate of adult male participants at all levels in Wales who play week in, week out for a recognised team/club is 6,750 individuals. I think in England a similar figure would be around 200,000 regular adult male players.
“This underlines one clear and salient truth, the game in Wales is at a tipping point. This is not the usual cyclical crisis we have seen many times over the years; it is certainly not just financial, although finances are critical; this crisis is structural and could be terminal. Wales is at high risk of becoming a second tier rugby nation permanently, with our best young players leaving, in a European version of the South Sea Islands experience with their richer neighbours.
“We also risk losing Welsh rugby’s social and cultural position in our nation. While we fully support the ongoing development of women’s rugby, it is the core men’s game which funds the WRU. If that is destroyed or severely compromised, no money will be available to develop anything. At the moment, the core men’s game is existentially threatened.
“Pontypridd will continue to fight, along with our like minded colleagues in the Welsh Premiership, for a vision of Welsh rugby that harnesses the latent power of our clubs and people, respects our history and communities, provides a product that is financially viable and engaging to our stakeholders.”
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The RFU will find a way to mess this up as usual. My bet is there will be no promotion into the the Premiership, only relegation into National League One. Hopefully they won’t parachute failed clubs into the league at the expense of clubs who have battled for promotion.
1 Go to commentsWell that’s the contracts for RG and Jordie bought and paid for. Now, what are the chances we can persuade Antoine to hop over with all the extra dosh we’ll have from living at the Aviva & Croke next season…??? 🤑🤑🤑
2 Go to commentsWow, that’s incredible. Great for rugby.
2 Go to commentsYou probably read that parling is going to coach the wallaby lineout but if not before now you have.
14 Go to commentsIf someone like Leo Cullen was in O’Gara’s place I don’t hear Boo-ing. It’s not just that La Rochelle has hurt Leinster and O’Gara is their Irish boss. It’s the needle that he brings and the pantomime activity before the game around pretending that Munster were supporting LaRochelle just because O’Gara is from Cork. That’s dividing Irish provinces just to get an advantage for his French Team. He can F*ck right off with that. BOOOOO! (but not while someone is lying injured)
2 Go to commentsDid the highlanders party too hard before the game? They were the pits.
1 Go to commentsWhat a player! Not long until he’s in the England side, surely?
2 Go to commentsHe seems to have the same aura as Marcus Smith - by which I mean he’s consistently judged as if he’s several years younger than he actually is. Mngomezulu has played 24 times for the Stormers. When Pollard was his age he had played 24 times for South Africa! He has more time to develop, but he has also had time to do some developing already, and he hasn’t demonstrated nearly as much talent in that time as one would expect. If he is a generational talent, then it must be a pretty poor generation.
4 Go to commentsThe greatest Springbok coach of all time is entirely on the money. Rassie and Jacques have given the south african public a great few years, but the success of the springbok selection policy will need to be judged in light of what comes next. The poor condition that the provincial system is currently in doesn’t bode well for the next few years of international rugby, and the insane 2026 schedule that the Boks have lined up could also really harm both provincial and international consistency.
21 Go to commentsJake White is a brilliant coach and a master in the press. This is another masterclass in media relations and PR but its also a very narrow view with arguments that dont always hold water. White wants his team to win, he wants the best players in SA and wants his team competitive. You however have to face up to the reality of a poor exchange rate and big clubs with big budgets. SA Rugby cant compete and unless it can find more money SA players will keep leaving regardless of Springbok eligibility and this happened in 2015 - 2017. Also rugby is not cricket. Cricket has 3 formats and T20 cricket is where the money is at. When it comes to club vs country the IPL is king but that wont happen because the international calendar does not clash with the club calendar in rugby. So the argument about rugby going down the same path as cricket is really a non-starter
21 Go to commentsNZ rugby seem not to have learnt anything from professional rugby. Super rugby was dying and SA left before they died with the competition. SA rugby did a u turn on their approach to international players playing overseas and such players are now selected for Bok teams. As much as each country would love to retain their players playing in local competitions, this is the way the world is evolving my friends. Move with it or stay 20 years behind the times. One more thing. NZ rugby hierarchy think they are the big cheese. Take a more humble approach guys. You do not seem to have your players best interests at heart.
3 Go to commentsBeaches? In Cardiff? Where?
1 Go to commentsHe is right , the Crusaders will be a threat. Scott Barrett, ( particularly), Fergus Burke , Codie Taylor, ( from sabbatical) etc due back soon for the Crusaders. There are others like Zach Gallagher too. People can right the Crusaders off, Top 8 , here we come !!
1 Go to commentsWe will always struggle for money to match the other sides but the least the WRU can do is invest properly in Welsh rugby. Too much has been squandered on vanity projects like the hotel and roof walk amongst others which will never see a massive return. Hanging the 4 pro sides out to dry over the last decade is now coming back to bite the WRU financially as well as on the pitch. You reap what you sow.
1 Go to commentsWhat do you get if you cross a doctor with a fish? A plastic sturgeon
14 Go to commentsWhat happened to feleti Kaitu’u? Hasnt played in a while right?
1 Go to commentsGregor I just can’t agree with you. You are trying to find something that just isn’t there. Jordie Barrett has signed until 2028. By the end of that he would have spent probably 11-12 years on Super Rugby and you say he can’t possibly have one season playing somewhere else. It is absurd. What about this scenario, the NZR play hard ball and he decides to leave and play overseas. How would that affect the competition. There seems to be an agenda by certain journalists to push certain agendas and don’t like it when it’s not to their liking. I fully support the NZR on this. Gregor needs to get a life.
3 Go to commentsHope he stays as believe he can do a great job.
1 Go to commentsMake what step up? Manie has a World Cup winner’s medal around his neck and changed the way the Springboks can play. He doesn’t have anything to prove to anyone. The win record of the Boks with him in the team is tremendous. Sacha can be wonderful and I hope he has a very succesful Bok career, but comparing him to Manie in terms of the next Bok flyhalf is very strange. Manie is the incumbent (not the next) and doing pretty incredibly.
4 Go to comments00 😍 U
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