Biggest crowd in a decade turn up to see Will Jordan

You’ve missed that Mourinho’s early start in football was as a translator for Bobby Robson (ironically a much older manager at the time!). He started in 2000 aged 37 as an assistant. Arteta started at 37 as a paid up manager. Rather than being a translator, he was Peps understudy. His tutelage belied his young age and gave him a few years under his belt before moving in to management.

You suggested that Les Kiss would not be suited to an international coaching role because of his age profile…that seemed to relate to rugby no matter how unsubstantiated a point it is.

Personally my opinion is that you can’t select players solely on the basis of their individual win rates!

I don’t think the recent failures of Gatland & Jones were due to them being undervalued by their employers or the wider rugby public. Is that what you are suggesting?

“So you’re confident that Arteta at 43 has less experience than Mourinho did at 43?”

Mourinho wasn’t 43 ten years ago, he was 52. Mourinho at 52 had more experience than Arteta does at 43.

“How does any of it relate to RUGBY????????????????????”

Take a deep breath. This isn’t worth getting this upset about.

My whole point is that it doesn’t relate to rugby. I am making the argument that there are not consistent trends wrt the age and experience of coaches that hold true for all sports. NB seemed to be suggesting that there were, but his argument has since proved to be more nuanced than that, making this whole thread pretty redundant.

“I’m suggesting any 20 year man could of had similar success with the resources Ferguson had.”

Well then you’re just daft. He was clearly a brilliant coach who achieved what very few others could have. Of course the money helped, and there probably were a handful of others who might have been able to achieve similar success if they’d got the united job instead, but he was a man of immense talents.

So now that you’ve shown you have the goods it’s back to eden park? Of all teams it’s the Blues that have out and out wingers. Most teams have players that can play anywhere at the back or midfield, but I don’t think you’re moving the Blues wingers. As AJ Lam and Heem, EVans, Sullivan have found out.

I’m 41 and still a virgin. Clean living and a pure heart.