'At Wasps, I hated playing against Saracens for those reasons'
Alex Lozowski has admitted he is amused that Saracens are still as universally disliked by their rivals and critics as they were before he embarked on last season’s one-year loan stint with Montpellier in France. It was November 2019, shortly after the London club had been docked an initial 35 points for salary cap breaches, that the five times England cap told RugbyPass: “Ever since I have been at Saracens, we have been universally disliked… it’s not really new to us.”
Twenty-two months not much has changed with Lozowski now back at the club following his French loan and Saracens restored to the Premiership following their year on the Championship circuit after that initial 35-point penalty was upgraded to an automatic relegation in January 2020.
Before a ball has been kicked, Saracens have been made title favourites by the bookies. That favouritism is nothing new for Mark McCall’s regular trophy winners, but neither is the accompanying cacophony of criticism, abuse and dislike that is said about the club.
“God, it’s all sort of in one ear and out the other, if I am honest, some of the things I have read,” said Lozowski when asked by RugbyPass what bits of mud-slinging commentary had most stuck in his mind. “I couldn’t tell you one thing that has been said that sort of sticks out but it’s probably just the relentlessness of it which is amusing.
However, while Lozowski these days doesn’t give the frequent negativity any credence, he admits that he himself was once a Saracens detractor, back in his Wasps days prior to his switch to north-west London in 2016. “In years gone by they were never a nice team to play against,” he said, explaining his own pre-joining view of Saracens.
The round nine Premiership fixture on November 28 in Manchester between Sale and Saracens is sure to emotionally test Sanderson in a way that he hasn't yet experienced in charge at the Sharks…https://t.co/Habk4umQAh
— RugbyPass (@RugbyPass) September 12, 2021
“Very competitive, difficult to beat. When I was at Wasps I hated playing against Saracens for those reasons and I never looked forward to playing against them. That will be one reason why (there is constant negativity) and then obviously the obvious reasons now which have been well documented and spoken about at length and for some reason continue to be spoken about now. I guess that is probably why we are not the most popular team but it honestly does not bother one player in that group one iota. Whether they are liked or disliked, it’s a very tight-knit group, we all get on really well and that is all that matters to us.”
Loan moves in England usually involve fringe players who can’t get sufficient games at their parent club. What happened at Saracens last term, though, was unprecedented, with star names such as Lozowski temporarily allowed to expand their horizons rather than play a season in the Championship.
The Premiership was the preferred choice of the likes of Ben Earl and Max Malins, but Lozowski was tempted to go further afield and while he had his issues with lack of form and concussions in France, he insisted the experience didn’t do him any harm and was to be recommended.
“It was something I never would have done or thought about doing had the situation not arose the way it did,” he explained, speaking ahead of this Friday’s opening round Premiership visit by Saracens to Bristol. “When I had the opportunity to then do that I wanted to take it with both hands and coming out the other side of it, I do genuinely believe I am in a better place now to kick on with Saracens and kick on with my rugby here.
“Whether other players decide at some point to do that in their career… I have spoken with Zach Mercer. He has joined Montpellier from Bath in his early 20s to experience a different style of rugby, a different lifestyle, and it could mean when Zach comes back to play in England, if and when he does, he will be able to kick on again. From my experience, it’s certainly not going to do anyone any harm.
“The quality of opposition every single week in the Top 14 is incredible. Some phenomenal rugby players playing in every team over there. That is always a challenge to come up against those kinds of players. And then from my time spent with the Montpellier team, guys like Bismarck du Plessis, Cobus Reinach, Handre Pollard, these kinds of guys, to pick their brains on the way they see the game, the way they think the game is going and areas where they get the upper hand against the opposition, that is among some of the best things I got out of that year.”
"I’m not sure that he definitely is (over it) but…"
– 19 weeks since Billy Vunipola learned he was overlooked by the Lions, Saracens reckon he is poised to "hit the ground running Friday night"#Lions #PremRugby #BRIvSAR #Sarrieshttps://t.co/CyAW7cQs5v
— RugbyPass (@RugbyPass) September 14, 2021
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It was a pleasure to watch those guys playing with such confidence. That trio can all be infuriating for different reasons and I can see why Jones might have decided against them. No way to justify leaving Ikitau out though. Jorgensen and him were both scheduled to return at the same time. Only one of them plays for Randwick and has a dad who is great mates with the national coach though.
53 Go to commentsBrayden Iose and Peter Lakai are very exciting Super Rugby players but are too short and too light to ever be a Test 8 vs South Africa, France, Ireland, and England, Lakai could potentially be a Test player at 7 if he is allowed to focus on 7 for Hurricanes.
5 Go to commentsPencils “Thomas du Toit” into possible 2027 Bok squad.
1 Go to commentsDon’t see why Harrison makes the bench. Jones can play at 10 if needed, and there is a good case for starting her there to begin with if testing combinations. That would leave room for Sing on the bench
1 Go to commentsWhat a load of old bull!
1 Go to commentsOf the rugby I’ve born witness to in my lifetime - 1990 to date - I recognize great players throughout those years. But I have no doubt the game and the players are on average better today. So I doubt going back further is going to prove me wrong. The technical components of the game, set pieces, scrums, kicks, kicks at goal. And in general tactics employed are far more efficient, accurate and polished. Professional athletes that have invested countless hours on being accurate. There is one nation though that may be fairly competitive in any era - and that for me is the all blacks. And New Zealand players in general. NZ produces startling athletes who have fantastic ball skills. And then the odd phenomenon like Brooke. Lomu. Mcaw. Carter. Better than comparing players and teams across eras - I’ve often had this thought - that it would be very interesting to have a version of the game that is closer to its original form. What would the game look like today if the rules were rolled back. Not rules that promote safety obviously - but rules like: - a try being worth 1 point and conversion 2 points. Hence the term “try”. Earning a try at goals. Would we see more attacking play? - no lifting in the lineouts. - rucks and break down laws in general. They looked like wrestling matches in bygone eras. I wonder what a game applying 1995 rules would look like with modern players. It may be a daft exercise, but it would make for an interesting spectacle celebrating “purer” forms of the game that roll back the rules dramatically by a few versions. Would we come to learn that some of the rules/combinations of the rules we see today have actually made the game less attractive? I’d love to see an exhibition match like that.
29 Go to commentsIrish Rugby CEO be texting Andy Farrell “Andy, i found our next Kiwi Irishman”
5 Go to commentsI certainly don’t miss drinking beers at 8am in the morning watching rugby games being played in NZ.
1 Go to commentsThis looks like a damage limitation exercise for Wales, keeping back some of their more effective players for the last 20/25 minutes to try and counter England’s fresh legs so the Red Roses don’t rack up a big score.
1 Go to commentsVery unlikely the Bulls will beat Leinster in Dublin. It would be different in Pretoria.
1 Go to commentsI think it is a dangerous path to go down to ban a player for the same period that a player they injured takes to recover. Players would be afraid to tackle anyone. I once tackled my best friend at school in a practice match and sprained his ankle. I paid for it by having to play fly-half instead of full-back for the rest of that season’s fixtures.
5 Go to commentsJust such a genuine good bloke…and probably the best all round player in his generation. Good guys do come first sometimes and he handled the W.Cup loss with great attitude.
2 Go to commentsWord in France is that he’s on the radar of a few Top14 clubs.
5 Go to commentsGet blocking Travis, this guy has styles and he’s gonna make a swift impact…!
1 Go to commentsWhat remorse? She claimed that her dangerous tackle wasn’t worthy of a red! She should be compensating the injured player for loss of earnings at the minimum. Her ban should include the recovery time of the injured player as well as the paltry 3 match ban.
5 Go to commentsArdie is a legend. Finished and klaar. Two things: “Yeah, yeah, I have had a few conversations with Razor just around feedback on my game and what I am doing well, what I need to improve on or work-ons. It’s kind of been minimal, mate, but it’s all that I need over here in terms of how to be better, how to get better and what I am doing well.” I hope he’s downplaying it - and that it’s not that “minimal”. The amount of communication and behind the scenes preparation the Bok coaches put into players - Rassie and co would be all over Ardie and being clear on what is expected of him. This stands out for me as something teams should really be looking at in terms of the boks success from a coaching point of view. And was surprised by the comment - “minimal”. In terms of the “debate” around Ireland and South Africa. Nice one Ardie. Indeed. There’s no debate.
2 Go to commentsThere’s a bit of depth there but realistically Australian players have a long way to go to now catch up. The game is moving on fast and Australia are falling behind. Australian sides still don’t priories the breakdown like they should, it’s a non-negotiable if you want to compete on the international stage. That goes for forwards and backs. The Australian team could have a back row that could make a difference but the problem is they don’t have a tight five that can do the business. Tupou is limited in defence, overweight and unfit and the locks are a long way from international standard. Frost is soft and Salakai-Loto is too small so that means they need a Valentini at 8 who has to do the hard graft so limits the effectiveness of the backrow. Schmidt really needs to get a hard working, tough tight 5 if he wants to get this team firing.
3 Go to commentsSorry Morgan you must have been the “go to for a quote” ex player this week. Its rnd 6 and there is plenty of time to cement a starting 15 and finishing 8 so I have no such concerns.
2 Go to commentsGreat read. I wish you had done this article on the ROAR.
2 Go to commentsThe current AB coaching team is basically the Crusaders so it smacks of wanting their familiar leaders around. This is not a good look for the future of the ABs or the younger players in Super working their way up the player ladder. Razor is touted as innovative, forward looking but his early moves look like insecurity and insular, provincial thinking. He is the AB's coach not the Golden Oldies.
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