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All Blacks dared to put 'record on the line' in 'biggest game in 2025'

Ardie Savea and Scott Barrett of the All Blacks look on during the International Test Match between New Zealand All Blacks and England at Eden Park on July 13, 2024 in Auckland, New Zealand. (Photo by Hannah Peters/Getty Images)

The All Blacks will return to New Zealand this week wondering what might have been after two narrow losses to South Africa.

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The visitors held the advantage heading into the second half at both Emirates Airline Park and the DHL Stadium, only to see the world champions grind them down, aided by their bench, to earn back-to-back victories and take a huge stride towards the Rugby Championship title.

But for a team with a new head coach, a spate of injuries and entering a new era following the retirements of many greats after last year’s World Cup, there were many positives to take from the tour. For a team that is well-accustomed to winning, that may be scant consolation.

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    Most importantly, Scott Robertson will know that his side can compete with the world champions and current world number ones. And with the Springboks making their way to New Zealand in next year’s Rugby Championship, they may have their chance to exact revenge.

    Ahead of 2025, former Springbok Hanyani Shimange has laid the ultimate challenge at the All Blacks’ feet by daring them to host Rassie Erasmus’ side at Eden Park.

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    The All Blacks brought up their half-century of consecutive victories at Eden Park against Argentina in round two of this year’s Championship, a run that dates back to 1994.

    On this week’s upcoming episode of RugbyPass TV’s The Boks Office, Shimange said it will say a lot about New Zealand rugby if they are not willing to “put that record on the line”.

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    “Please, can we play them at Eden Park next year?” he said.

    “They have to put that record on the line. A lot’s going to be said about New Zealand rugby if next year the schedule comes out and they’re trying to protect their record and they don’t take us to Eden Park. It has to happen.

    “If they back themselves and believe in Eden Park, then surely you want to play the current world champions at Eden Park.”

    Fellow Boks Office regular Schalk Burger was less keen on the idea, however.

    “No one’s winning at Eden Park ever. That’s done,” the former South Africa flanker added

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    “It’s not even Eden Park, we went to Mount Smart and got absolutely smashed last year. I don’t think Auckland’s the place we want to go to, but they can take us to Wellington any time.”

    This week’s guest, EggChasers Rugby Podcast co-host Tim Cocker, added: “If that game happens, that’s the biggest game in 2025, it hurts me to say because it’s the British and Irish Lions tour.”

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    NS 204 days ago

    We need big bodies to match European and South African Team. NZ got them in heaps. The end of the year Northern Hemisphere tour is coming and it is the perfect time to realign and makes changes.

    Firstly, a few pointers for Razor. BB and DMAc are not 1st Fives. As long as these two start all blacks will never win big games. Pick only one in the reserve for big games as cover for FB. Richie Moanga is ok and better than BB and DMAc at 1st five. If Richie is available BB and Dmac should never be picked.

    Secondly, Rico has to go. Rico is the reason why all blacks did not win the world cup. It was lost in the quarter final when he sledged departing Irish player. Perhaps if he had performed a haka and bring him to tears rather than derail him in his last day, Rugby Gods will be smiling at AB. It is karma. Like Gregans "wait 4 more years" Sledge and Australia lost the final to England

    On the other hand, you see the South African players will never ever do such acts and go down that low. They are very respectful and good people and they will keep winning. Rugby Gods will make South Africa win and they will keep winning unless Scott makes these changes

    Thirdly, Don't let Sam Cane go. All Blacks have to keep him for big games. All Blacks Maul Defense is good because of him. Just keep him at test level and no other Rugby or very minimal club Rugby. Young loosies should hang around with Cane and learn about humility and respect

    A message to BB, Dmac, Rico, Ardie Savea and TJ. Please make yourselves unavailable for 2 years. Ardie you are good but not a Back Row. You are too light.

    That out of the way, now let’s select the team.

    Front row sorted out by Jason Ryan. Won’t talk about it.

    Locking sorted out with Tupou, Scott, Darry, Pat Tuipulotu and Josh Lord

    Loosies. Do away with Ardie for a while. Go with Siti, Sotutu, Cane, Ethan, Jacobson, Papalii and Finau

    Young stars like Satiti and Finau have to be grounded and train hard in the gym and bulk up for the next world cup. Sotutu has to work harder off the ball.

    Half Backs: TJ out.  Cam Roigard [has to learn to scream and communicate game time], Ratima and Noah Hotham

    Back Line:            1st Five: Harry Plummer [Inside center Cover]

                                    2nd five: JB [Fullback and first five cover]

                                    Outside Centre: Billy Proctor

                                    Wings: Clarke and Will Jordon [Fullback Cover]

                                    Fullback: Ruben Love [1st Five Cover], Zarn Sullivan

    Wings: Shaun Stevson [Fullback Cover], Talaea and Narawa

    Centre: Quinn Tupaea, Umaga Jenson Brothers - need big boys, ALB

    Messaage to BB, DMac, Ardiae, Rico and  TJ. If you want All Backs to evolve and be world leaders again, please make yourselves unavailable for 2 years. Please just do it for your country. You will come back stronger in 2 years.

    New Zealand team reminds me of NSW State of Origin. They always had the best players in their positions but never selected them in their position until Madge came and now NSW will be untouchable.

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    Tv 205 days ago

    I think the AB’s must forget about thinking whether they can compete with the Springboks. They lost. That is the final word on that. They need to start concentrating on their own game. Their DNA. They have two tests against a mediocre Wallaby side to find it as things will not become easier for them after that as France, Ireland and England await them in Europe.

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    Bruiser 205 days ago

    The ABs arnt running scared of the Boks. Looking forward to being at the Park next year

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    Tv 205 days ago

    That will never happen. The same reason why they did not play Ireland at the Park.

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    Forward pass 205 days ago

    Geez a good year and the Boks go all ferrel. NZR will schedule the tests anywhere they damn well decide to schedule them.

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    GH 205 days ago

    The will play the bokke at Eden Park next year.


    No doubt about that.


    Nz will also beat the Boks 2-0 in 2025.

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    BP 203 days ago

    🤡

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    Ninjin 205 days ago

    They would have beaten The Irish 3-0 in 22 and they also would have beaten the Springboks in the world cup final again in 23 just like they did in 95. And now you say they will beat the Springboks 2-0 at home in 25. Let us wait and see what happens against Ireland and France first in November before we start predicting 2025. I am actually looking forward to the Nz vs Aus first game. You might destroy them or they might surprise you just like the Argies did.

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    DP 205 days ago

    1-1 next year. Boks have plenty of gears in them and will keep improving as will the ABs. We shall see either way..

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    DP 205 days ago

    They will do it. It just adds that extra little bit more to a test we're already looking forward to.

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    Mitch 205 days ago

    Hanyani Shimangi will get his wish.

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    Ninjin 205 days ago

    I think it is a wonderful idea and it will be the #1 game of 25 nevermind the B&I and SH imports team in Aus. What will make it even better is if Sa and Nz could be 1 and 2 in the world at that point (does not matter which one is 1 and which is 2) with something like a win to decide the #1 spot. Mix in Eden park with it's rich rugby history, the 4 on the trot win/lose stat and we might just have a game of the decade in the making.

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    Your links are private if you were intending them to be shared.


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    17.7%

    You really had the same reversed 10 points lead % as you had lead changes after the 75th?


    Some of these values while standing out numerically against each other have a much less correlative impact than some that tighter differences which might only stick out a small amount. While SRP’s ones might not necessarily be such examples (and here I’m still going off the basic principle that everyone knew this was happening, even though I was challenged about that assumption) they have had the advantage of the fixtures being were doctored even more than normal. In this instance its irrelevant whether they were doctored or not of course, but I think it’s pretty safe to say that there hasn’t been a lot of cross over of worst v best yet. Maybe it just feels like that because the worst are so much better this year? I definitely think that it is undeniable that all the bottom teams (that remain) have gotten better.


    So I would be very interested in another weight graph of the games still, but regardless I don’t think it’s fair for SRP to claim anything over the other leagues yet. Certainly as I have said numerous times about the Top 14, it’s sub par compared to what it’s billed up to be, but that is the only league in this group that has promotion and relegation, which is the antitheses of a competitive league, so a trade off there.


    Thank you very much for sharing your research though Dmitri, I hope you find another topic to get interested about!

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