LONG READ Is Antoine Dupont no longer undroppable?

He’s the price of a free internet, sadly

And still you respond… Why?

Because: you have this pathological desire to have the last word … 🤣

You started this correspondence so by all means end it weirdo. Be gone!

Really? Why do you keep responding?

It’s because you have this pathological desire to have the last word … 🤣

I have no desire to “dish it out” or otherwise with you. Run along.

You engaged with me …

Vic1ous @nonymous online @buse? You love to dish it out, but you’re not man enough to take it. No surprise there. 🤣

Thank you!

You are carrying out vicious anonymous online abuse yet calling your target the coward? Run along.

It's bad enough I've to share a planet and an air supply with goons like yourself

Your’e a walking advert for abortion. Away and annoy someone else

Aaawww, you upvoted your own post. Bless your heart.

I hope the Freudian subtext of you starting your rant by calling him ‘son’ - before obsessing over unhealthy unions - isn't lost on you

That's your thing though. You never talk rugby, just project your 'preferences’ on others

Get help

Son, you’re the kind of person who makes me wish I had a time machine just so I could go back and convince your parents that 1nc3st is a bad idea.

When you post here, the world’s IQ drops and a general malaise settles over the planet. You’re not just an unpleasant c0w@rd - you’re a living, breathing argument for euth@nasia.

FFS….. You don’t like me, got it. Just run along you strange d1ckhead.

Why? So that you can keep on being a sanctimonious pr*ck?

Remember when you said this: “You’ve stopped the laughing emojis, good icnel. Now run along and work on that fist… Try it on your Mommy first”

That was your Terry24 incarnation. Needless to say, you were not man enough to own up and apologise, and nothing has changed.

Just stop following me around this site.

This is just patently untrue. Name changes did not just happen “centuries ago”.

I am an expat myself and interact mostly within and expat network. It is quite common for children born to foreign parents that their names are spelled according to the local convention (and on occasion even spelled differently on official documentation from different countries).

If you want a concrete example, Spain generally (although not always) give children born there dual surnames (father and mother) as that is their convention, even if the child has one surname on their foreign documents.

Difference is that I don’t lie about people.

We’ve been here before AA. You don’t like me and the feeling is more than mutual. Stop following me around this site, strange man!!

As usual, you are ranting about something that no-one cares about, you w⚓.

They came about (centuries ago) because of people spelling the name differently when it was first transcribed to writing. Now they are different names. The name Dupont is not spelled DuPont, du Pont, Duppont, Duppon, Dupon, Dupons, Duppons, Duppond, Dupond, DuPon, DuPont, Dupen, Du Pen, du Pen, du Pons, du Pond etc etc. based on local norms.

All these are now DIFFERENT NAMES.

And how do you think these variations came about? It is because people started applying the local norms.

I never once said his surname should be spelled a particular way. I only said people should not be condemned for applying their own norms and conventions.

As I told Soliloquin. Go ask him if he takes offense if someone in a different country applies their own linguistic norms and uses an internal capitalization on his surname. I am pretty sure he won't care, so I don't understand why you two get so worked up about it.

Yes, and South African English is different to both American and British English; closer to the latter, I believe, but still distinct. I don't really know if the South African convention is to write with or without the internal capitalization. You are the one that keeps referring to South Africa, so maybe you know. However, there are cultures where this IS the norm and my point this whole time was that you should not call what someone does a mistake, if all they did was follow their own cultural norms.

I tell you what, you go ask Antoine if he is offended if other cultures apply their own cultural norms and conventions and capitalize the P in his surname when they refer to him. If he does take offense, I will apologize to him, but I will probably also lose quite a lot of respect for him as he has so far given me every impression that he respects others cultures and their right to express their cultural identity.

My bad, you were just referring to other countries ‘American English prefers the internal capitalization, while other English speaking countries have different preferences’.

But to my knowledge, English is one of the languages used in SA, right?

Antoine Dupont is not South African, so why apply the South African conventions to his name? Who’d be arrogant? The one that respects the country of origin’s convention or the one that asks that the proper way in which his name is written

Would you lose your identity if you made the effort of respecting the person’s country of origin convention? Nope.

I’d love to know where you come from (even though you’re just a profile on an anonymous forum), a place where you do not respect the country of origin’s proper spelling, but I’m off, I won’t waste any more time.

I never mentioned or implied those cultural norms and conventions came from any specific country. That assumption is all on you and your bias (justified or not).

Based purely on what you have said, many South Africans spell his name that way. I think a logical assumption would be to assume that is a norm in their country. Calling the convention of another culture a “mistake” (sic) might be considered arrogant. It certainly is where I come from.

It hasn’t been a fruitful conversation, yet you carried on trying to prove your mistaken spelling is a cultural preference, making fantastic intellectual feats just to avoid admitting to it.

I reference South Africa because of the “cultural norms and conventions” coming from South Africa you were referring to, and because most of the guys making that spelling mistake are usually SA fans, which doesn’t mean South African people or fans are a problem.

The Springboks are a fantastic team and deserving number 1 test team in the world.

I see you went on a rant rather than answer the question. As a general rule I stop engaging when that happens as it is no longer a fruitful conversation.

Also, I am not quite sure why you repeatedly reference South Africa. It does seem like you have a particular dislike for them. Perhaps this is just some residual bad feelings from 🇫🇷 WC loss, but I could be wrong.

Sadly DuPont has not faced Southern teams regularly to justify his journalists Sponsored title of GOAT… He is useless against the Boks and ABs and put up slightly better than average performances against 6N teams… Too much hype!

Oh wow… “Dictate to the world”. Choosing the correct spelling of a surname, when the spelling isn’t hard to understand, doesn’t alter communication and does not disrespect your norm is “dictating to the world”?

Telling someone a correct spelling is “dictating to the world”.

Do you feel disrespected that Antoine Dupont is spelled Antoine Dupont?

It’s bizarre that so many people in South Africa do not suffer from the same issue.

Wait until you learn to how many mentally unhealthy conventions and norms you are submitting to…

The context was like that and hasn’t changed. I was just answering your additional mental gymnastics, showing how inaccurate they were.

So those are the applicable contexts you dictate to the world. Is that the full list, or will you be issuing more at a future date to suit your views at the time?

The context:

-he’s French, the proper spelling is Antoine Dupont. Never has been different.

-the alphabet is the same, at least with the chosen letters. There are no accents. Changing the letters or adding accents isn’t needed for pronunciation. It’s not Japanese vs English or Russian vs French.

-he hasn’t spent any sufficient time in South Africa that would justify a South African convention to be applied (and even if he did, it wouldn’t be necessary or justified, like with Kolbe or Etzebeth in France - they weren’t applied local norms).

So no, no need to change it.

It's supposed to be self-centered to the person and the person’s culture and country of origin. You do not get to make a change in that context, applying another country’s convention is useless.

Anything more?

So you get to pick and choose which contexts it is appropriate to do it? You don't think that is a bit self centered?

He's definitely not the same I've watched several matches

Antoine can take heart from Quin Tupea’s recovery from a similar injury. It took him some considerable time after he made it back onto the field to recover his confidence. But his form this year has been exceptional.

Surévalué

I'm not sure I see the point of this article other than to try and get a rise out of the ‘DuPont is the GOAT’ brigade.

Crowning game from the journalists…Sacha was the king 6 months ago, now he is useless and the new king is LBB. Who is next?