'You never really want to do that': Gibbes reflects on Hurricanes' set-piece woes
Just 34 minutes into the Hurricanes’ match with the Waratahs at Leichhardt Oval on the weekend, the coaches made the somewhat unprecedented decision to replace their entire front row.
Xavier Numia, Asafo Aumua and Tyrel Lomax had been bashed, beaten and bruised by their opposites at the set-piece, conceding four penalties in the opening half and accelerating backwards at a rate of knots, even on their own feed.
Angus Bell, in particular, seemed to be working over All Blacks tighthead Lomax and it completely stymied any attempts from the Hurricanes to build a platform from which to attack. Somewhat unsurprisingly, they were well behind on the scoreboard, down 15-nil without having ever really fired a shot.
Shortly before halftime clicked over, the Hurricanes coaches made the decision to rotate out their starting trio and bring in Tevita Mafileo, Dane Coles and Owen Franks – and the impact was immediate.
In the first scrum following the front-row swap, Franks earned a penalty against Bell – and that was the way the night continued.
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With the Hurricanes finally having the upper hand at the set-piece, they clawed their way back into the match, scoring three tries and two penalties in the second stanza and limiting the Waratahs to just three further points.
The game ended 22-18 in the visiting sides’ favour and it was the decision to sub on Mafileo, Coles and Franks in the first half that can easily be pinpointed as the turning point of the match. It wasn’t a decision that was made lightly, according to forwards coach Chris Gibbes, but one was necessary to turn the tide in the Hurricanes’ favour.
“A hell of a tough decision that and you never really want to do that in any game,” he told media on Tuesday. “Those three boys have done a hell of a job for us leading into that game.
“It’s a combination of a few things we got wrong and then we just got a little bit individual. From a team perspective, we needed to make that decision around we can try and let the boys work it out but potentially get a yellow card at the scrum – which was probably coming next – or we make the change and use the depth we’ve got in the squad and on the bench. That’s the way we went and it worked out [well] that way.
“You never want to see the boys come off the field like they did and [have] to make those subs so early but at the end of the day, it’s a team and that’s what comes first.”
Gibbes noted that while loosehead prop Numia had at times looked to get the upper hand over his opposite, Archer Holz, the three front-rowers simply weren’t gelling well enough as a unit.
“[Numia] did put heat on but it’s a collective, that front row,” Gibbes said. “If one guy’s overworking and the other guys aren’t quite getting it right and not nailing the plan then it doesn’t really matter because it’s still going to wheel and angle.
“Again, it’s just the learnings we’ve had from that this morning and trying to find solutions to the problems on the field has been a key focus.”
The game against the Waratahs marked the third time that the trio of Numia, Aumua and Lomax have started together this season and it was the first instance of them really struggling as a unit.
All Blacks head coach Ian Foster will have taken note of the proceedings on Saturday evening with both Aumua and Lomax likely to earn selection in the national side later this year – but similar hiccups at test level could be disastrous for the men in black.
Foster has praised Lomax’s ability to adjust to the tactics of opposition looseheads in the past but the 26-year-old evidently struggled to do so while he was on the field against Wallabies prop Bell.
“He was pretty impressive off the bench, actually,” Foster said of Lomax’s performance against Argentina last year. “Tyrel is a good scrummager and I thought in the second half he came in and was able to apply some of the learnings we had about the different tactics that were occurring at scrum time that caused us to get penalised a couple of times. I was quite pleased with the way he learnt, adapted and adjusted to that.”
Franks, with seven years of seniority over Lomax, however, is a wily operator of his own and has faced international opposition all over the field throughout his extended career. Evidently, Bell’s work at scrum time was no match for Franks’ own mastery of the dark arts.
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10 Go to commentsAbsolutely..all they need is a chance in yhe playoffs and I bet all the other teams will be nervous…THEY KNOW HOW TO WIN IM THE PLAYOFFS..
2 Go to commentsI really hope he comes back and helps out with some coaching.
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9 Go to commentsI’m guessing Carl Hayman would have preferred to have stayed in NZ with benefit of hindsight. Up north there is the expectation to play twice as many games with far less ‘player management’ protocols that Paul is now criticising. Less playing through concussions means longer, healthier, careers. Carter used as the eg here by Paul, his sabbatical allowed him to play until age 37. OK its not an exact science but there is far more expectations on players who sign for Top 14 or Engl Prem clubs to get value for the huge salaries. NZR get alot wrong but keeping their best players in NZ rugby is not one of them. SA clubs are virtually devoid of their top players now, no thanks. They cant threaten the big teams in the Champions Cup, the squads have little depth. Cant see Canes/Chiefs struggling. Super has been great this year, fantastic high skill matches. Drua a fantastic addition and Jaguares will add another quality team eventually. Aus teams performing strongly and no doubt will benefit with the incentive of a Lions tour and a home RWC. Let Jordie enjoy his time with Leinster, it will allow the opportunity for another player to emerge at Canes in his absence.
10 Go to commentsLove that man, his way to despise angry little men is so funny ! 😂
4 Go to comments“South African franchises would be powerhouses if we had all our overseas based players back in situ. We would have the same unbeatable aura the Toulouses, Leinsters or Saracens of this world have had over the last decade or so.” Proof that Jake white does not understand the economics of the game in SA. Players earning abroad are not going to simply come back and represent the bulls. But they might if they have a springbok contract.
22 Go to commentsA lot of fans just joined in for the fun of it! We all admire O'Gara and what he has done for La Rochelle
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9 Go to commentsWell that’s the contracts for RG and Jordie bought and paid for. Now, what are the chances we can persuade Antoine to hop over with all the extra dosh we’ll have from living at the Aviva & Croke next season…??? 🤑🤑🤑
34 Go to commentsWow, that’s incredible. Great for rugby.
34 Go to commentsYou probably read that parling is going to coach the wallaby lineout but if not before now you have.
14 Go to commentsIf someone like Leo Cullen was in O’Gara’s place I don’t hear Boo-ing. It’s not just that La Rochelle has hurt Leinster and O’Gara is their Irish boss. It’s the needle that he brings and the pantomime activity before the game around pretending that Munster were supporting LaRochelle just because O’Gara is from Cork. That’s dividing Irish provinces just to get an advantage for his French Team. He can F*ck right off with that. BOOOOO! (but not while someone is lying injured)
4 Go to commentsDid the highlanders party too hard before the game? They were the pits.
1 Go to commentsWhat a player! Not long until he’s in the England side, surely?
5 Go to commentsHe seems to have the same aura as Marcus Smith - by which I mean he’s consistently judged as if he’s several years younger than he actually is. Mngomezulu has played 24 times for the Stormers. When Pollard was his age he had played 24 times for South Africa! He has more time to develop, but he has also had time to do some developing already, and he hasn’t demonstrated nearly as much talent in that time as one would expect. If he is a generational talent, then it must be a pretty poor generation.
6 Go to commentsThe greatest Springbok coach of all time is entirely on the money. Rassie and Jacques have given the south african public a great few years, but the success of the springbok selection policy will need to be judged in light of what comes next. The poor condition that the provincial system is currently in doesn’t bode well for the next few years of international rugby, and the insane 2026 schedule that the Boks have lined up could also really harm both provincial and international consistency.
22 Go to commentsJake White is a brilliant coach and a master in the press. This is another masterclass in media relations and PR but its also a very narrow view with arguments that dont always hold water. White wants his team to win, he wants the best players in SA and wants his team competitive. You however have to face up to the reality of a poor exchange rate and big clubs with big budgets. SA Rugby cant compete and unless it can find more money SA players will keep leaving regardless of Springbok eligibility and this happened in 2015 - 2017. Also rugby is not cricket. Cricket has 3 formats and T20 cricket is where the money is at. When it comes to club vs country the IPL is king but that wont happen because the international calendar does not clash with the club calendar in rugby. So the argument about rugby going down the same path as cricket is really a non-starter
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