'What a pickle': All Blacks duo weigh in on Beauden Barrett vs Richie Mo'unga debate
Ask any New Zealand rugby fan who should start at first-five for the All Blacks, and the answer will be one of two players.
Some will say star Blues recruit Beauden Barrett needs to be reinstated in the national No. 10 jersey after helping guide the Aucklanders to their best campaign in nearly a decade in Super Rugby Aotearoa.
Other will argue Crusaders playmaker Richie Mo’unga deserves to maintain his place in the starting lineup following a compelling 10-week showing in the Kiwi domestic league that saw his side clinch their fourth consecutive title.
It’s a predicament that has divided a nation and likely won’t be solved until All Blacks head coach Ian Foster names his first team of the year over the coming months.
That hasn’t stopped All Blacks duo James Parsons and Brad Weber from weighing in on the debate in their most recent appearance on the Aotearoa Rugby Pod.
Veteran Blues hooker Parsons, who played two tests for the All Blacks in 2014 and 2016, believes his Super Rugby teammate Barrett is the best option for Foster’s team due to his extensive skill set.
“I don’t think we can look past how good Beaudy looked at 10 when he moved there,” the 33-year-old said, referencing Barrett’s shift from fullback to first-five midway through Super Rugby Aotearoa.
“Richie – don’t get me wrong, I’ve raved about him, I think he’s great and he’s definitely the form 10 – but with the three games Beaudy had at 10, he changed our attack massively.”
Parsons noted Barrett’s performance against the Highlanders in Dunedin three weeks ago as an example of how good the two-time World Rugby Player of the Year can be.
“Just his ability to be flat at the line and hold defenders, his ability to kick and pass,” Parsons said.
“To stop that cross-field kick and then give that bullet pass to [Tony] Lamborn against the Highlanders, that takes a hell of a lot of skills.
“It’s a tough decision and one that’s just not going to get answered because you could start either of them.”
Although he admitted to having a bias towards Barrett, Parsons recognised Mo’unga’s sensational form was probably enough to earn him earn selection at first-five for the All Blacks.
“Richie’s probably got the inside running because he’s played seven games, and even before Super, because Beaudy had that sabbatical, he’s been the form one all year,” Parsons said.
“He just has that ability to cut teams open regularly, and he’s also a pretty sharp shooter with the boot, so it’s a tough one.
“I’m going to be biased. I would probably pick Beaudy but that’s just because he’s in my team and that’s just the natural way it is, but I appreciate what Richie’s got about his game.”
Chiefs halfback Weber, who attended last year’s World Cup in Japan, was similarly impressed with Mo’unga, highlighting his performance during the Crusaders’ 26-15 win over the Blues in Christchurch last month as an example of his talent.
But, while most would agree that picking Mo’unga at first-five would force Barrett to fullback, Weber added that tactical move could present issues of its own given New Zealand’s positional depth across the board.
“The stuff against you boys down in Christchurch, Jip [Parsons], that stuff was just… it’s freakish,” Weber said of Mo’unga.
“Beaudy’s got so many years, though, of just quality first-five work for the All Blacks, so it’s going to take a fair bit to take that off Beaudy as well.
“But also at 15 as well, the stocks there, because if you play Richie at 10 and then have Beaudy at fullback… Jordie’s [Barrett] playing so good, we’ve got Damian McKenzie who’s clearly class and we’ve already mentioned Will Jordan as well, so, man, what a pickle.”
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Fans and pundits alike will get the chance to see Barrett and Mo’unga go head-to-head in the No. 10 jerseys next Saturday after the pair were named as first-fives in the North and South squads on Tuesday.
Barrett is the sole first-five in the North team, although McKenzie and Highlanders pivot Mitch Hunt can provide cover there, while Mo’unga is joined by one-test All Blacks playmaker Josh Ioane in the South side.
The match is currently scheduled to take place at Auckland’s Eden Park, but a rise in Covid-19 cases has seen the city go into level three lockdown until August 26, three days before the fixture is set to take place.
New Zealand Rugby has since revealed Wellington as the back-up option to host the inter-island clash, and players will subsequently assemble in the Kiwi capital in preparation for the match on Monday.
Foster will then name his 35-man All Blacks squad on Sunday, the day after the match is played.
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The game was a quarter final, not a semi final. Barrett will be here for 6 months, he is no one's replacement at 13. That mantle will most likely ultimately go to Jamie Osborne, though Garry Ringrose has at least 4 more years in him. The long term problem position (in the next 3 years) for Leinster is tighthead prop, though there are a couple of prospects at schools level.
21 Go to commentsSo much for all that hype surrounding the ‘revival’ of Aussie rugby. The Blues were without the likes of regular starters Perofeta, Sullivan, Christie etc… This was a capitulation of the highest order by Australia’s finest. Joe Schmidt definitely has his work cut out for him.
2 Go to commentsYes they can ignore Sotutu. Like Akira Ioane plays OK at Super level but gets lost in tests. Too many chances too many failures.
2 Go to commentsA wallaby front-row of Bell, Blake and Tupou…now that would be hefty
1 Go to comments“But with an exceptional pass accuracy rating “ Which apart from Roigard is not a feature of any of the other 9s in NZ. Kind of basic for a Black 9 dont.you. think? Yet we keep seeing FC and TJ being rated ahead of him? Weird if it’s seen as vital to get our backline beating in your face defences.
1 Go to commentsThanks BeeMc! Looks like many teams need extra time to settle from the quadrennial northern migration. I think generally the quality of the Rugby has held up. Fiji has been fantastic and fun to watch
13 Go to commentsLets compare apples with apples. Lyon sent weak team the week before, but nobody raised an eyebrow. Give the South African teams a few years to build their depth, then you will be moaning that the teams are too strong.
41 Go to commentsDid footballs agents also perform the scout role at some time? I’m surprised more high profile players haven’t taken up the occupation, great way to remain in the game and use all that experience without really requiring a lot of specific expertise?
1 Go to commentsSuper rugby is struggling but that has little to do with sabbaticals. 1. Too many teams from Aust and NZ - should be 3 and 4 respectively, add in 2 from Japan, 1 possibly 2 from Argentina. 2. Inconsistent and poor refereeing, admittedly not restricted to Super rugby. Only one team was reffed at the breakdown in Reds v H’Landers match. Scrum penalty awarded in Canes v Drua when No 8 had the ball in the open with little defence nearby - ideal opportunity to play advantage. Coming back to Reds match - same scrum situation but ref played advantage - Landers made 10 yards and were penalised at the breakdown when the ref should have returned to scrum penalty. 3. Marketing is weak and losing ground to AFL and NRL. Playing 2 days compared with 4. 4. Scheduling is unattractive to family attendance. Have any franchises heard of Sundays 2pm?
12 Go to commentsAbsolutely..all they need is a chance in yhe playoffs and I bet all the other teams will be nervous…THEY KNOW HOW TO WIN IM THE PLAYOFFS..
2 Go to commentsI really hope he comes back and helps out with some coaching.
1 Go to commentsI think we are all just hoping that the Olympic 7s doesn’t suffer the same sad fate as the last RWC with the officials ruining the spectacle.
1 Go to commentsPersonally, I’ve lost the will to even be bothered about the RFU, the structure, the participants. It’s all a sham. I now simply enjoy getting a group of friends together to go and watch a few games a year in different locations (including Europe, the championship, etc). I feel extremely sorry for the real fans of these clubs who are constantly ignored by the RFU and other administrators. I feel especially sorry for the fans of clubs in the Championship who have had considerable central funding stripped away and are then expected to just take whatever the RFU put to them. Its all a sham, especially if the failed clubs are allowed to return.
10 Go to commentsI’m guessing Carl Hayman would have preferred to have stayed in NZ with benefit of hindsight. Up north there is the expectation to play twice as many games with far less ‘player management’ protocols that Paul is now criticising. Less playing through concussions means longer, healthier, careers. Carter used as the eg here by Paul, his sabbatical allowed him to play until age 37. OK its not an exact science but there is far more expectations on players who sign for Top 14 or Engl Prem clubs to get value for the huge salaries. NZR get alot wrong but keeping their best players in NZ rugby is not one of them. SA clubs are virtually devoid of their top players now, no thanks. They cant threaten the big teams in the Champions Cup, the squads have little depth. Cant see Canes/Chiefs struggling. Super has been great this year, fantastic high skill matches. Drua a fantastic addition and Jaguares will add another quality team eventually. Aus teams performing strongly and no doubt will benefit with the incentive of a Lions tour and a home RWC. Let Jordie enjoy his time with Leinster, it will allow the opportunity for another player to emerge at Canes in his absence.
12 Go to commentsLove that man, his way to despise angry little men is so funny ! 😂
5 Go to comments“South African franchises would be powerhouses if we had all our overseas based players back in situ. We would have the same unbeatable aura the Toulouses, Leinsters or Saracens of this world have had over the last decade or so.” Proof that Jake white does not understand the economics of the game in SA. Players earning abroad are not going to simply come back and represent the bulls. But they might if they have a springbok contract.
25 Go to commentsA lot of fans just joined in for the fun of it! We all admire O'Gara and what he has done for La Rochelle
5 Go to commentsThe RFU will find a way to mess this up as usual. My bet is there will be no promotion into the the Premiership, only relegation into National League One. Hopefully they won’t parachute failed clubs into the league at the expense of clubs who have battled for promotion.
10 Go to commentsWell that’s the contracts for RG and Jordie bought and paid for. Now, what are the chances we can persuade Antoine to hop over with all the extra dosh we’ll have from living at the Aviva & Croke next season…??? 🤑🤑🤑
37 Go to commentsWow, that’s incredible. Great for rugby.
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