'We probably will see Richie slot back in': The All Blacks facing the chopping block after loss to the Wallabies
To continue build depth in his 38-man squad, or to revert back to his strongest possible side for this weekend’s clash against Argentina?
That’s the dilemma currently facing All Blacks head coach Ian Foster after his side was shocked by the Wallabies in a 24-22 defeat in Brisbane last Saturday.
The loss came in a dead rubber Bledisloe Cup fixture, with the trophy already won by New Zealand the week beforehand in Sydney, leading Foster to ring a total of 10 changes to their starting lineup.
Among the changes was Beauden Barrett being reinstated at first-five in place of the previous week’s man-of-the-match Richie Mo’unga, with younger brother Jordie Barrett moved from the wing to fullback.
Ngani Laumape was handed a start at second-five as Jack Goodhue was rested, while Rieko Ioane and Sevu Reece formed a fresh wing pairing.
Elsewhere, star halfback Aaron Smith was rested to accomodate for TJ Perenara’s promotion to the starting team, and the forward pack experienced four alterations, with Codie Taylor, Scott Barrett, Akira Ioane and Ardie Savea the new faces.
Ioane was also one of four debutants alongside reserves Asafo Aumua, Cullen Grace and Will Jordan, all of whom made up a new-look bench that featured six new players from the previous week’s 43-5 shellacking of the Wallabies in Sydney.
With nothing but pride and Tri-Nations points on the line, Foster’s selection overhaul came back to bite him, as did his side’s ill-discipline, with Ofa Tuungafasi sent from the field and Scott Barrett sin binned for various infringements.
Whether or not those players and their teammates will be culled for the Argentina test remains to be seen, but Crusaders halfback Bryn Hall believes Foster will continue to utilise the full depth of his squad against the Pumas in Sydney on Saturday.
“I think you’ll see a continuation of guys getting opportunities,” the four-time Super Rugby champion told the Aotearoa Rugby Pod.
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“It’s not going to be disrespecting them [Argentina], but there’s not many test matches this year, going into next year, so you need to be able to give your whole squad an opportunity to play footy.
“The expectation is it doesn’t matter if you’ve played a couple of test matches or if you’ve played just one test match, your job is to go in there and to perform well.
“So, I think you’ll see a continuation of the squad changing up a little bit and giving guys opportunities.”
Hall’s North Harbour teammate and fellow Aotearoa Rugby Pod panellist James Parsons offered an alternative view, suggesting that this week’s All Blacks side will be picked on form from the past fortnight given most players have now had game time.
“I think you’ll see them continue to pick on form. I think those guys that were picked and were given ‘an opportunity’ were in form in Super Rugby Aotearoa, and they deserve that opportunity through performance,” the two-test All Blacks hooker said.
“They will now be judged on their performance on the weekend, and the team will be picked accordingly from that, and from the week prior.
“They’ve rewarded form, and they’ve rewarded guys that have put runs on the board, to use a cricket analogy, and I think that’ll be seen in this week’s team.”
Parsons name dropped Blues teammate Akira Ioane as a strong candidate to retain his place in the starting side after impressing in a variety of aspects despite having only played for 25 minutes due to Tuungafasi’s red card.
Highlighted Ioane as one of the test rookies who had made the most of the opportunity handed to him on the back of a standout Super Rugby campaign, Parsons wasn’t sold on some of the other fringe players that took to the field in Brisbane.
“There was so much time between the reason they were picked in the squad before they could play, so they were rewarded for the form they had to get in the squad,” he said of those who had earned their places in the All Blacks through Super Rugby.
“Now they’ve had their lick, so someone like Aki [Ioane], I believe, gets another crack because he performed very well. Others might not, and the other guys will come back into that selection decision.”
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Of those other guys could be Mo’unga, who played a starring role in New Zealand’s win over Australia at ANZ Stadium two weeks ago.
Working in tandem with fullback Beauden Barrett, the Crusaders pivot shone at first-five as part of a dual playmaker system.
By comparison, Barrett couldn’t influence the game nearly as much when handed the No. 10 jersey last week, with the dual playmaker scheme impacted by the selection of Jordie Barrett at fullback.
When asked on how the Barrett brothers performed in that system in contrast to how Beauden and Mo’unga have played together this season, Parsons said the two pairings were incomparable because of the yellow and red cards.
“Let’s be clear, they [Beauden and Jordie] weren’t given a platform like a week before, so it’s hard to judge,” he told the Aotearoa Rugby Pod.
“I don’t think you can judge Jordie or Beaudy because the early red card, the platform and the organisation – to lose a forward, it does play with your attacking shape, defensive shape, certain areas of the lineout play, ruck play.
“Five of the nine tries that the All Blacks have scored have come from a lineout, and we couldn’t clinch that lineout before halftime, and I think that just shows that there was just a little bit of clunkiness and not the platform provided that we’ve seen in past weeks to judge them fairly.”
Hall agreed with that sentiment, but was strong in his belief that a return to the Mo’unga-Barrett playmaking combination, with Jordie shifting back to the right wing, is the most feasible option this week.
“I thought Beaudy and Jordie, when they were having good touches, they were good,” Hall said.
“They were penetrating the line. Beaudy, in that first 20-minute stanza when we had a lot of ball, was attacking the line and Jordie was in and around that position as well.
“But, I think we probably will see Richie slot back in there and probably put Beaudy back to fullback with Jordie on the right-hand wing.”
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We had during the week twilight footy, twilight cricket, tw golf plus there was the athletics club. Then the weekend was rugby 15s plus the net ball, really busy club scene back then but so much has changed and rugby has suffered. And it was all about changing lifestyles.
6 Go to commentsIn the 70s and 80s my club ran 5 Senior sides plus a Vets. Now it is 2 sides with an occasional 3rd team. Players have difficulty getting to training now, not sure why and the commitment is not there. It seems to me more a problem of people applying themselves and not expecting to turn up and play whenever they want to.
6 Go to commentsROG’s contract is until 2027. The conversation about a successor to Galthie after RWC 2027 may be starting now. We can infer that Galthie’s reign stops then. He is throwing the Irish Coaching Job angle in because he is Irish. The next Irish coach MUST be Leo Cullen. As well as being the best coach available, coaching the vast majority of Irish Internationals week in week out, he has shown incredible skill at recruiting the best coaching staff for the job in hand. That was a failing in France. Cullen is a shrewd guy and if there is a need for foreign coaches underneath him he won’t hesitate. Rightly so. Ireland does need to start to bring Irish coaches through. Not just at the professional level but we need to train coaches to man new pathways for developing kids from schools/clubs up through the divisions.
7 Go to commentsNo Islam says it must rule where it stands Thus it is to be deleted from this planet Earth
18 Go to commentsThis team probably does not beat the ABs sadly Not sure if BPA will be available given his signing for Force but has to enter consideration. Very strong possibility of getting schooled by the AB props. Advantage AB. Rodda/Skelton would be a tasty locking combination - would love to see how they get on. Advantage Wallabies. Backrow a risk of getting out hustled and outmuscled by ABs. Will be interesting to see if the Blues feast on the Reds this weekend the way they did the Brumbies we are in big trouble at the breakdown. Great energy, running and defence but goalkicking/general kicking/passing quality in the halves bothers me enormously. SA may have won the World Cup for a lot of the tournament without a recognised goalkicker but Pollard in the final made a difference IMO. Injuries and retirements leave AB stocks a bit lighter but still stronger. 12 and 13 ABs shade it (Barret > Paisami, Ione = Ikitau, arguably) Interesting clash of styles on the wings - Corey Toole running around Caleb Clark and Caleb running over the top of Toole. Reece vs Koro probably the reverse. Pretty even IMO. 15s Kelleway = Love See advantage to ABs man for man, but we are not obviously getting slaughtered anywhere which makes a nice change. Think talent wise we are pretty even and if our cohesion and teamwork is better than the ABs then its just about doable.
11 Go to commentsCompletely agree. More friday night games would be a hit. RFU to make sure every club has a floodlit pitch. Club opens again Saturday to welcome touch / tag. Minis and youths on Sunday
6 Go to comments1.97m and 105Kg? Proportionately, probably skinnier than me at 1.82 and 82kilos. He won’t survive against the big guys at that weight.
55 Go to commentsThe value he brought to the crusaders as an assistant was equal to what he got out of being there. He reflected not only on the team culture but also the credit he attributed to the rugby community. Such experience shouldn’t be overlooked.
7 Go to commentsGood luck Aussie
11 Go to commentssmith at 9 / mounga 10 / laumape 12 / fainganuku 14
60 Go to commentsBar the injuries, it’s pretty much their top team …
2 Go to commentsDon’t disagree with much of this but it appears you forgot Rodda and Beale, who started at the Force on the weekend.
11 Go to commentsExcept for the injured Zach Gallagher this would be Saders best forward pack for the season. Blackadder needs to stay at 7, for all of Christies tackling he is not dominant and offers very little else. McNicholfullback is maybe a good option, Fihaki not really upto it, there was a reason Burke played there last year. Maybe Havilli to 2nd five McLeod to wing. Need a strong winger on 1 side to compliment Reece
1 Go to commentsTo me TJ is clearly the best 9 in the competition right now but he's also a proven player off the bench, there's few playmaking players who can come off the bench as calm and settled as he is, Beauden can, TJ can and I doubt any of the scrumhalves in contention can, if they want to experiment with new 9s I want him on the bench ready to step in if they crumble under the pressure. The Boks put their best front row on the bench, I'd like to see us take a similar approach, the Hurricanes have been doing similar things with players like Kirifi.
60 Go to commentsROG has better chance to win a WC if he starts training and make himself eligible as a player. He won’t make the Ireland squad but I reckon he may get close with Namibia (needs to improve his Afrikaans) or Portugal. Both sides had 1000:1 odds to win the RWC in 2023 which is an improvement on ROG’s odds of winning a RWC as a coach. Unlike Top 14 teams, national teams can’t go shopping and buy the best players - you work with the available talent pool and turn them into world beaters.
7 Go to commentsthat backline nope that backline is terrible why would you have sevu Reece when he’s not even top 5 wingers in the comp why have Blackadder when there’s better players no Scott barret isn’t an automatic the guy is more of a liability than anything why have him there when you have samipeni who’s far far better
60 Go to commentsAh, good to find you Nick. Agree with everything about Cale. So much to like about his game
55 Go to commentsNot too bad. Questions at 6, lock and HB for me. The ABs will be a lot stronger once Jordan and Roigard return. Also, work needs to be made to secure Frizzell back for next season and maybe also Mo’unga; they’re just wasting time playing in japan
60 Go to commentsOn the title, i wonder for many of those people it is a case something like a belief in working smarter, not harder?
1 Go to commentsForget Sotutu. One of those whose top level is Super Rugby. Id take a punt on Wallace Sititi Finau ahead of Glass body Blackadder.
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