'They are slow': Kiwi ref highlights the concerning trend with New Zealand Super Rugby teams
Kiwi referee Ben O’Keeffe has critiqued the ruck work of the New Zealand Super Rugby Pacific teams over the first four weeks of the competition compared to that of the top Northern Hemisphere sides.
Joining the panel on Sky Sport’s The Breakdown, he said it was “no surprise” the All Blacks were soundly beaten by the likes of Ireland and France in November, who he said are playing a faster game than the teams in New Zealand.
Having refereed in last year’s Six Nations and the British & Irish Lions tour of South Africa, O’Keeffe made note that European teams are attacking the breakdown more effectively to create quicker ball speed than what Kiwi sides have done in recent times.
“I think you’ve seen in the first few rounds of Super Rugby this year, they are slow,” O’Keeffe told The Breakdown of the ruck recycle speed in Super Rugby Pacific.
“The game is slow, we are not getting that quick ball we’ve had over the last few years.
“Six Nations, when I reffed it last year, it was slow, this year it is fast. I think it is no surprise that we saw Ireland and France play like they did in November.
“It’s our responsibility as referees to get that player rolling out, the players are trusting the referee that they will get that role, the clean is coming in high and getting quick ball out.
“There is that balance that the referee has got to do their job too, to get a fast game.”
O’Keeffe’s comments came after ex-All Blacks wing Jeff Wilson highlighted numerous instances in Super Rugby Pacific games between Kiwi teams where the cleaning support players had targeted the tackler on the ground, or had taken a poor angle and ended up on the ground themselves.
As a result, many attacking players have ended up on the ground making a mess of the ruck and creating slow recycles, whilst also being susceptible to poachers coming over the ball late and counter-ruck pushes.
By contrast, Wilson illustrated that the Northern Hemisphere teams were much better at staying on their feet and over the ball without worrying about the tackling player already on the ground.
Wilson emphasised that the difference in clean-out methods is the result of a different coaching styles, something of which he said “100 percent” needs to be addressed in New Zealand.
“I think there has been a significant change. The Northern Hemisphere are not worried about sealing the possession, they are coming in upright and punching through and making the ball available,” Wilson said.
“With us, we’ve talked about these pod systems, we are protecting the ball, we are sealing it off first, and that puts three bodies on the ground.
“No one on the defence spends any players contesting. You can stay on your feet, and what have you got in attack, you’ve got 11 on 14 in the front line.
“That to me, is a recipe for disaster, and you are going to get turned over at the breakdown.
“It is a change we need to make. Our game, our best game, surely is when we are standing up. The more players on their feet, the better we will be.
O’Keeffe concluded that officials are not there to coach players to clean-out properly and that the work has to be done during the week to ensure the cleaners are “driving, not diving”.
The lack of accuracy in that area has resulted in a stark rise in the number of penalties conceded by players going off their feet at ruck time in Super Rugby Pacific this season.
“I think it goes two ways. You’ve got to be coached to be accurate during the week, to hit rucks upright so they are driving, not diving,” O’Keeffe told The Breakdown.
“It shouldn’t be our responsibility [to coach players as referees], because we will do it on Saturday, we will have to penalise it. There has been a lot of penalties for ‘off feet’ in Super Rugby this year.
“People don’t want to see us coaching them to do it, so learn it during the week, and if you’re penalised on the weekend, it’s because you got it wrong.”
Comments on RugbyPass
Bar the injuries, it’s pretty much their top team …
2 Go to commentsDon’t disagree with much of this but it appears you forgot Rodda and Beale, who started at the Force on the weekend.
9 Go to commentsExcept for the injured Zach Gallagher this would be Saders best forward pack for the season. Blackadder needs to stay at 7, for all of Christies tackling he is not dominant and offers very little else. McNicholfullback is maybe a good option, Fihaki not really upto it, there was a reason Burke played there last year. Maybe Havilli to 2nd five McLeod to wing. Need a strong winger on 1 side to compliment Reece
1 Go to commentsTo me TJ is clearly the best 9 in the competition right now but he's also a proven player off the bench, there's few playmaking players who can come off the bench as calm and settled as he is, Beauden can, TJ can and I doubt any of the scrumhalves in contention can, if they want to experiment with new 9s I want him on the bench ready to step in if they crumble under the pressure. The Boks put their best front row on the bench, I'd like to see us take a similar approach, the Hurricanes have been doing similar things with players like Kirifi.
35 Go to commentsROG has better chance to win a WC if he starts training and make himself eligible as a player. He won’t make the Ireland squad but I reckon he may get close with Namibia (needs to improve his Afrikaans) or Portugal. Both sides had 1000:1 odds to win the RWC in 2023 which is an improvement on ROG’s odds of winning a RWC as a coach. Unlike Top 14 teams, national teams can’t go shopping and buy the best players - you work with the available talent pool and turn them into world beaters.
2 Go to commentsthat backline nope that backline is terrible why would you have sevu Reece when he’s not even top 5 wingers in the comp why have Blackadder when there’s better players no Scott barret isn’t an automatic the guy is more of a liability than anything why have him there when you have samipeni who’s far far better
35 Go to commentsAh, good to find you Nick. Agree with everything about Cale. So much to like about his game
49 Go to commentsNot too bad. Questions at 6, lock and HB for me. The ABs will be a lot stronger once Jordan and Roigard return. Also, work needs to be made to secure Frizzell back for next season and maybe also Mo’unga; they’re just wasting time playing in japan
35 Go to commentsOn the title, i wonder for many of those people it is a case something like a belief in working smarter, not harder?
1 Go to commentsForget Sotutu. One of those whose top level is Super Rugby. Id take a punt on Wallace Sititi Finau ahead of Glass body Blackadder.
35 Go to commentsI’m a pensioner so I've been around a bit. My opinion of SBW is he is an elite athlete and a great New Zealander and roll model. He has been to the top and knows what he's talking about. To all the negative comments regarding SBW the typical New Zealand way, cut that tall poppy down.
17 Go to commentsI'm not listening to a guy moralise over others when this is the guy who walked out mid season on Canterbury RLFC when he had a contract with them, what a hypocrite. All the Kiwis sticking up for this unprincipled individual because they can't accept justified criticism, he has zero credibility or integrity. Those praising him are a joke.
17 Go to commentsI’d put Finau at 6 instead of Blackadder but that’s the only change I’d make. Can’t wait to see who Razor picks.
35 Go to commentsTamati Williams, Codie Taylor, and Same Cane? Not sure about Hoskins Sotutu at test level. Wasn’t that impressive last season. Need a balance between experience and talent/youth.
35 Go to commentsInteresting insight. Fantastic athlete, and a genuine human being.
17 Go to commentsThey played at night in Suva last weekend and it’s an afternoon game forecast for 19 degrees in Canberra this weekend. Heat change is a non issue.
2 Go to commentsWishing Rosie a speedy recovery
1 Go to commentsObscene that SA haven’t been knocking
1 Go to commentsChances of Blackadder being injured seem too high to give him serious consideration. ABs loosie combination finally looked good with 2 committed to tackling and clearing rucks in the centre and Ardie roaming. Hoskins/Ardie together would force one of them into where they don’t excel and don’t get to use their talent, or require a change in tactics. If we continue to evolve last years systems I would take Papali’i and Finau at 6 and 7 (conceding that Blackadder will be injured) and Ardie at 8.
35 Go to commentsArdie’s preferred position 7? Where do they get these writers from? I've no idea where he's playing in Japan, but the previous two seasons he wore the 7 jersey exactly twice.
18 Go to comments