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The Felix Jones comment about Harry Randall that delighted Bristol

Harry Randall at England training in July (Photo by Hannah Peters/Getty Images)

Pat Lam has spoken about his admiration at seeing Harry Randall bounce back from adversity to win his first England cap in two years last June. Injury and lack of form left the Bristol half-back surplus to requirement at international level, a predicament not helped by Steve Borthwick taking over as Test boss from Eddie Jones.

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However, feedback delivered by Borthwick last year to the Bears No9 proved invaluable and Randall made his England comeback in the Tokyo win over Japan. The 26-year-old needed just eight minutes off the bench as a 50th-minute replacement for Alex Mitchell to score a try in the 52-17 win.

Randall wasn’t selected in the match day 23 for the follow-on two-game series in New Zealand, as Borthwick chose Ben Spencer as sub scrum-half in those two matches. But Bristol were nevertheless chuffed with Randall’s tour and they have high hopes for him in the new Gallagher Premiership campaign which begins with a Friday night trip to Newcastle.

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Asked by RugbyPass for his thoughts on Randall successfully fighting his way back into the England mix, Bears director of rugby Lam said: “So pleased for Harry because he is a big leader, he has captained this team, he is huge in our group. But what I was really pleased about, I remember Steve gave him some feedback a year ago after the World Cup talking about the speed of the ball, obviously with the way they wanted to change the play.

“They had their metrics and the challenge for Harry was to try and be one of the quicker persons at delivering the ball. And then in his recent feedback, Steve complimented Harry on he is one of the quickest if not the quickest to give the ball. We are really pleased with that because obviously the way we play, that is the same metric we put on him.

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“He has grown his understanding, his experience and his conditioning. Then the alignment of the goals that we want, and particularly the way that England are playing now which is great, there is still work ons for him but his ability and his speed around that breakdown and the threat he has around the fringes is huge.

“He has come back from that tour, obviously like all the players he would have liked more game time but he has to earn that and he is right in that picture. It was pleasing to hear Steve talk about his influence in that culture and that environment because again it mirrors what he is doing here.

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“We expect big things from Harry. There is some great nines and Alex Mitchell is obviously in the way and there is some very good nines in the Premiership. I love that because he knows that too; they will bring the best out of him and he knows to stay in that England environment he has got to compete and play very well for us which I am confident he will do.”

The story of how Randall bounced back from his adversity in recent years to re-gain England selection is the sort of inspiring rugby story that Lam loves most. “Spot on, that is my favourite type of player, favourite person, the people who go through adversity, build resilience and come back and bounce back.

“He is recognised as a huge talent and even Felix Jones commented to us about he is probably the best defending nine. He does a lot of work with Jordan Crane (at Bristol) and, pound for pound, the reads that he makes, he is just amazing. You look at some of the clean outs he does, the physical stuff he does, he is only 70-odd kilos but it just shows his heart and where he puts his body. Very, very pleased and to have him here is huge for us.”

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Ed the Duck 273 days ago

So brizzle want the ball fast but it’s only when the England coach demands it that Randall deliver. I’d be pretty pi$$ed if I was lam…

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fl 53 minutes ago
Ex-Wallaby laughs off claims Bath are amongst the best in the world

I ultimately don’t care who the best club team in the world is, so yeah, lets agree to disagree on that.


I would appreciate clarity on a couple of things though:

Where did I contradict myself?

Saying “Trophies matter. They matter a lot. But so does winning games. So does making finals.” is entirely compatible with ranking a team as the best - over an extended period - when they have won more games and made more finals than other comparable teams. It would be contradictory for me to say “Trophies matter. They matter a lot. But so does winning games. So does making finals.” and then completely ignore Leinster record of winning games and making finals.


“You can get frustrated and say I am not reading what you write, but when you quote me, then your first line is to say thats true (what I wrote), but by the end of the paragraph have stated something different, thats where you contradict yourself.”

What you said (that I think trophies matter) is true, in that I said “Trophies matter. They matter a lot. But so does winning games. So does making finals.”. Do you understand that Leinster won more games and made more finals than any other (URC-based) team did under the period under consideration?


“Pointless comparison on Blackburn and Tottenham to this discussion as no-one includes them on a list of the best club. I would say that Blackburns title season was better than anything Tottenham have done in the Premier League. My reference to the league was that the team who finished second over two seasons are not better than the two other teams who did win the league each time. One of the best - of course, but not the best, which is relevant to my point here about Leinster, not comparing teams who won 30 years ago against a team that never won.”

I really don’t understand why you would think that this is irrelevant. You seem to be saying that winning trophies is the only thing that matters when assessing who is the best, but doesn’t matter at all when assessing who is 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc.


“What I referred to in my Leinster wouldn’t say the were the best is your post earlier where you said Leinster were the best overall. You said that in two separate posts. Seasons dont work like that, they are individual. Unless the same team keeps winning then you can say they were the best over a period of time and group them, but thats not the case here.”

Well then we’ve just been talking at cross purposes. In that my position (that Leinster were the best team overall in 2022-2024) was pretty clear, and you just decided to respond to a different point (whether Leinster were the best team individually in particular years) essentially making the entire discussion completely pointless. I guess if you think that trophies are the only thing that matters then it makes sense to see the season as an individual event that culminates in a trophy (or not), whereas because I believe that trophies matter a lot, but that so does winning matches and making finals, it makes it easier for me to consider quality over an extended period.

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MT 1 hour ago
Ex-Wallaby laughs off claims Bath are amongst the best in the world

As I said in one of my first replies to you - we can agree to disagree. If you want to leave it no problem. I completely disagree with your ranking of Leinster as the best team in the world. Now you have said you will change it if Bordeaux win the Top 14. Well as Leinster themselves prioritise the CC over the URC and Bordeaux won the CC, how are they not ranked higher by you? Are Leinster one of the best teams, yeah - never said they weren’t. But not the very best team, as the very best team have trophies to show for their seasons. They matter when you discuss the very best.


You can get frustrated and say I am not reading what you write, but when you quote me, then your first line is to say thats true (what I wrote), but by the end of the paragraph have stated something different, thats where you contradict yourself. Just so we are clear, you said you would too on my statement that I would rather be a fan of a team that won a trophy over the three seasons, but end the paragraph saying you would rather be a fan of the team that won the most matches but didn’t win a trophy. Both cant be true. Thats one example of where you contradict yourself.


Pointless comparison on Blackburn and Tottenham to this discussion as no-one includes them on a list of the best club. I would say that Blackburns title season was better than anything Tottenham have done in the Premier League. My reference to the league was that the team who finished second over two seasons are not better than the two other teams who did win the league each time. One of the best - of course, but not the best, which is relevant to my point here about Leinster, not comparing teams who won 30 years ago against a team that never won.


What I referred to in my Leinster wouldn’t say the were the best is your post earlier where you said Leinster were the best overall. You said that in two separate posts. Seasons dont work like that, they are individual. Unless the same team keeps winning then you can say they were the best over a period of time and group them, but thats not the case here.

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