NZ Conference Pre-Season Odds: Will the Blues Ever Stop Being Useless?
This year’s Super Rugby is confusing at the best of times. There are two Groups, one from Australasia and another from Africa, an extremely convoluted schedule, a new team that’s pretty much the Argentinian national team, a Japanese side that holds its home games in Singapore, and an inexplicable lack of live animal mascots.
A full explainer is here, but to get your bearings on the competition, the main thing to focus on is the conferences. There are four of them – Australia, New Zealand, Africa 1, and Africa 2 – and the winner of each will be rewarded with home field advantage in the quarter-finals. For our pre-season odds, we decided to rank the teams in those conferences by how good they’re going to be, and where they’re likely to end up at the end of the season.
New Zealand Conference
Chiefs: TAB odds $6.50 to win competition, favourite.
I’m a bit surprised that the Chiefs are outright favourites this year, because they’ve lost a heap of top-class players from last year’s side and not gained much beyond good ITM Cup players in return. They have got three All Blacks, including Aaron Cruden, back from long-term injury but have lost three new signings to the MASH tent before the season even starts. The Chiefs will be good, there’s no doubt about that, and even with the convoluted playoff qualification system they’ll breeze into the eight. I just wonder how much those losses – they’ve had more than any other New Zealand side – will affect the team’s ability to go the full 17 weeks at top speed.
After 17 weeks the Chiefs will be: Right in the thick of the playoff action.
Crusaders: TAB odds $8.50 to win competition, equal 5th favourite.
For the first time in many years the Crusaders are not favourites to win, and that’s fair enough. They haven’t actually won it for years now, but it’s the retirement of Richie McCaw and Daniel Carter’s relocation overseas that has probably swayed the punters. There will still be plenty of good ‘uns in the red-and-black machine but maybe the opposition might play the man and not the reputation a little more now. The obvious hole is at first-five, where Richie Mo’unga gets first shot at the position, but others would look at the back-ups in the engine room and the scoring punch out wide as additional areas of concern. Look for the Crusaders to be right in the mix – when did you ever see a bad team from down Christchurch way on Todd Blackadder’s watch? – but winning the overall title might be a bridge too far.
After 17 weeks the Crusaders will be: Either the last team to make the cut or the last to miss it.
Blues: TAB odds $17 to win competition, 10th favourite.
Given the Blues’ struggles of the past three or four years, a lowly rating is understandable. Personnel losses far outweigh gains over the off-season, and there are a lot of young and relatively inexperienced players in the squad. There are also a lot of guys who have stood out at ITM Cup level, but this will obviously be harder and we might find out a thing or two about some during the season. The Blues’ biggest problem is still the 9-10-12 axis; they need to settle on a combination and stick with it; if that happens and the combination fires those big, powerful backs might be influential. The Blues’ other problem is simply the conference they’re in, as the other four New Zealand teams all look stronger.
After 17 weeks the Blues will be: Closer than they were in 2015 but still on the outside looking in.
Highlanders: TAB odds $8.50 to win competition, equal 5th favourite.
I’m not sure how much more the Highlanders have to do to convince punters they’re the real deal. I would have thought winning a semi and then a final on the road – something that has only been done once before – and keeping the heart of the team that achieved that notable feat intact might have done it. It did, sort of. The Highlanders are no longer on a double-digit line, but they’re still behind two other New Zealand sides and equal with another, so they haven’t won too many converts. One indication of how the Highlanders seem to slip under the radar is that Aaron Smith won no awards at the NZRU gong-fest in 2015, yet everyone agreed he was one of the very best players in the world. Any team that has two superstars named Smith shouldn’t have ego problems, and those two go a long way towards assuring that happy state. There was a lot to like about what they did last year, and no reason to expect it won’t be done again this season; I’m picking the Highlanders to go deep again in 2016.
After 17 weeks the Highlanders will be: Making a strong run at defending their title, and worrying everyone else.
Hurricanes: TAB odds $7.50 to win competition, 2nd favourite.
Last year I couldn’t understand why the Hurricanes were so highly favoured, and they made me look a bit silly. This year I can’t understand their high ranking since they’ve lost a bunch of experience and gained virtually nothing above good ITM Cup players. Ma’a Nonu’s best-ever Super Rugby season in 2015 was something of a wildcard but it was vital to the team’s fortunes.; He’s not there this season. Neither is Conrad Smith nor Jeremy Thrush, two guys who could keep the beat going. The Hurricanes didn’t really draft that well a year ago and the squad is still very thin on experience below the top XV; if blokes like TJ Perenara and Nehe Milner-Skudder are shut down, 2016 might be a long year. The forwards were better than expected in 2015 but now face the task of backing that up, which I suspect may be a bridge too far. The ‘Canes will be good, but I don’t think they’ll be back in the final.
After 17 weeks the Hurricanes will be: Filling whichever space the Crusaders didn’t get. They may make it or may just miss.
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2 Go to commentsOh dear, bones too suspect to continue?
2 Go to commentsBold headline considering the Canes and Blues are 1 and 2 and the Brumbies were soundly beaten by the Chiefs and Blues. Biggest surprise is Rebels 4 Crusaders 12 - no one saw that coming. If Aus are improving that’s great 👍
1 Go to commentsAnna, You are right, we need to have patience whilst the others catch up to England and France. Also it is the PWR that has been the game changer for England. the RFU put money into that initially at the expense of the Red Roses. I was sceptical at first but it has paid off in spades.
1 Go to commentsI think Matt Proctor became a 1 test AB in the same fixture. Cameron is quality and has been great this season, can’t believe’s he only 27. Realistically how would he not be selected for ABs squad this year. Only Dmac is ahead of him as a specialist 10. With Jordan out, it will come down to where and when Beauden Barrett slots back in, and where they want to play Ruben Love. Cameron seems an absolute lock in for the wider squad though. Added benefit of TJ-Cameron-Jordie combination at 9, 10, 11 too.
1 Go to commentsFarcical, to what end would someone want to pay to keep this thing going.
1 Go to commentsHavili, our best 12 by a mile, will be in the squad, if he stays fit. JB is the most overrated AB in the last 50 years.
61 Go to commentsWe had during the week twilight footy, twilight cricket, tw golf plus there was the athletics club. Then the weekend was rugby 15s plus the net ball, really busy club scene back then but so much has changed and rugby has suffered. And it was all about changing lifestyles.
6 Go to commentsIn the 70s and 80s my club ran 5 Senior sides plus a Vets. Now it is 2 sides with an occasional 3rd team. Players have difficulty getting to training now, not sure why and the commitment is not there. It seems to me more a problem of people applying themselves and not expecting to turn up and play whenever they want to.
6 Go to commentsROG’s contract is until 2027. The conversation about a successor to Galthie after RWC 2027 may be starting now. We can infer that Galthie’s reign stops then. He is throwing the Irish Coaching Job angle in because he is Irish. The next Irish coach MUST be Leo Cullen. As well as being the best coach available, coaching the vast majority of Irish Internationals week in week out, he has shown incredible skill at recruiting the best coaching staff for the job in hand. That was a failing in France. Cullen is a shrewd guy and if there is a need for foreign coaches underneath him he won’t hesitate. Rightly so. Ireland does need to start to bring Irish coaches through. Not just at the professional level but we need to train coaches to man new pathways for developing kids from schools/clubs up through the divisions.
8 Go to commentsNo Islam says it must rule where it stands Thus it is to be deleted from this planet Earth
18 Go to commentsThis team probably does not beat the ABs sadly Not sure if BPA will be available given his signing for Force but has to enter consideration. Very strong possibility of getting schooled by the AB props. Advantage AB. Rodda/Skelton would be a tasty locking combination - would love to see how they get on. Advantage Wallabies. Backrow a risk of getting out hustled and outmuscled by ABs. Will be interesting to see if the Blues feast on the Reds this weekend the way they did the Brumbies we are in big trouble at the breakdown. Great energy, running and defence but goalkicking/general kicking/passing quality in the halves bothers me enormously. SA may have won the World Cup for a lot of the tournament without a recognised goalkicker but Pollard in the final made a difference IMO. Injuries and retirements leave AB stocks a bit lighter but still stronger. 12 and 13 ABs shade it (Barret > Paisami, Ione = Ikitau, arguably) Interesting clash of styles on the wings - Corey Toole running around Caleb Clark and Caleb running over the top of Toole. Reece vs Koro probably the reverse. Pretty even IMO. 15s Kelleway = Love See advantage to ABs man for man, but we are not obviously getting slaughtered anywhere which makes a nice change. Think talent wise we are pretty even and if our cohesion and teamwork is better than the ABs then its just about doable.
11 Go to commentsCompletely agree. More friday night games would be a hit. RFU to make sure every club has a floodlit pitch. Club opens again Saturday to welcome touch / tag. Minis and youths on Sunday
6 Go to comments1.97m and 105Kg? Proportionately, probably skinnier than me at 1.82 and 82kilos. He won’t survive against the big guys at that weight.
56 Go to commentsThe value he brought to the crusaders as an assistant was equal to what he got out of being there. He reflected not only on the team culture but also the credit he attributed to the rugby community. Such experience shouldn’t be overlooked.
8 Go to commentsGood luck Aussie
11 Go to commentssmith at 9 / mounga 10 / laumape 12 / fainganuku 14
61 Go to commentsBar the injuries, it’s pretty much their top team …
2 Go to commentsDon’t disagree with much of this but it appears you forgot Rodda and Beale, who started at the Force on the weekend.
11 Go to commentsExcept for the injured Zach Gallagher this would be Saders best forward pack for the season. Blackadder needs to stay at 7, for all of Christies tackling he is not dominant and offers very little else. McNicholfullback is maybe a good option, Fihaki not really upto it, there was a reason Burke played there last year. Maybe Havilli to 2nd five McLeod to wing. Need a strong winger on 1 side to compliment Reece
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