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‘Lots of things to improve’: Argentina’s Julian Montoya reacts to loss

Argentina players react after losing the Autumn Nations Series international rugby union test match between France and Argentina at the Stade de France in Saint-Denis, north of Paris, on November 22, 2024. (Photo by Anne-Christine POUJOULAT / AFP) (Photo by ANNE-CHRISTINE POUJOULAT/AFP via Getty Images)

Julian Montoya offered a candid assessment of Argentina’s tough 37-23 loss to France in Paris on Friday evening. The captain highlighted Los Pumas’ slow start and the team’s poor discipline as areas of concern after their final Autumn Nations Series match of the year.

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On the back of a historic run in The Rugby Championship which saw Argentina beat New Zealand, Australia and South Africa in the same tournament for the first time, Los Pumas travelled north as they set sights on more headline-grabbing upsets.

Argentina smashed Italy 50-18 and came close to knocking off Ireland in a 22-19 loss in Dublin, but they had one more match to play before the season came to a close. France were up next, which pitted a Rugby World Cup semi-finalist against a northern hemisphere heavyweight.

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Penalty Goals
3
4
Tries
2
3
Conversions
2
0
Drop Goals
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116
Carries
157
5
Line Breaks
4
12
Turnovers Lost
12
5
Turnovers Won
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But with Thibaud Flament, Gabin Villiere, Louis Bielle-Birrey scoring five-pointers, and a penalty try going France’s way, it seemed the hosts were always in control. Argentina had the last laugh with Ignacio Ruiz scoring with just over 10 minutes to play, but time wasn’t on their side.

At the end of an incredible season which saw Argentina make some unforgettable history, they were handed a one-sided 14-point loss. Players were visibly disappointed after the full-time whistle at Stade de France, but their captain remained as proud as ever of Los Pumas.

“First of all I want to say thank you to all the Argentina people that came here to Paris to support us and the people that support us from home. To us it’s very important,” Montoya said on the post-game broadcast.

“We didn’t start the way we wanted. Our discipline wasn’t good, two yellow cards.

“What I think it good and (why) I’m proud of the team is the way we went for the game until the 80th minute.

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“But lots of things to improve. Now we need to look inside each other; what do we need to do better… but I’m proud of this team as always.”

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It would’ve taken an incredible effort for Argentina to wrestle their way back into the lead after going into the sheds at half-time down 30-9. France had scored three tries, but it was the goal-kicking boot of flyhalf Thomas Ramos that seemed to do the most damage.

Whenever Argentina pivot Tomas Albornoz converted a penalty, Ramos lined up a shot at goal usually within a few minutes to cancel out the score. Les Bleus ran riot as the proud Parisian crowd well and truly got behind their rugby heroes with a chorus of cheers and songs.

The second half was more of a battle with Argentina ‘winning’ that period 14-7, with Thomas Gallo scoring the other try for the visitors, but the damage had been done. Argentina finished the year with a 50 per cent winning record, with six wins from their 12 Tests in 2024.

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“I’m proud of this team always, not just when we do things all right,” Montoya added.

“We were in a tough position and we need to embrace those moments and come together stronger. We win together and we lose together.”

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Head high tackle 43 minutes ago
'Razor's conservatism is in danger of halting New Zealand's progress'

I really dont know what the problem is Nick. Cane was immense this year and no one below him demanded the job. TJ perhaps less so but he was always going to start the season at 9 anyway due to the thing they call experience. I think guys like Lakai will have learnt a lot from the likes of Cane and Ill garrantee TJ has helped the Roigard/Ratima/Hothem settle in to their roles much better than they would have had there been no experience around. At the start of 2024 these guys had 3 tests between them. Im glad TJ was around.

The biggest fail area from my pov is centre. Razors lack of desire to change what is clearly failing is a worry. Is he waiting for a full year of SR? Is he not sure? I dont know the answer of course but He fiddled where he shouldnt have and didnt touch the area he should have. WJ at 15 is an experiment. Its not a clear decision yet either. WJ is an amazing attacking player. He isnt an amazing kicker or an amazing decision maker.

The 10 position is being handled very badly too. Its Dmac but BB is constantly in there, Its BB but no 15 to back that up or its no one. GET RID of the centre pairing and get Love in at 15. The backs will function way better. All the players get their SR backs working far better than Razor has gotten, and with no dedicated backs coach in the ABs its a clear problem area.


Also this comparing SA with NZ when 1 side is retaining all their stars and the other side has had some major changes isnt a apples with apples comparison. Imagine comparing a F1 racing team where 1 team was 100% settled and the other was brand new....Just not a comparison worth doing as it proves nothing other than the blatently obvious.

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JW 1 hour ago
'Razor's conservatism is in danger of halting New Zealand's progress'

Razor is compensating, and not just for the Foster era.


Thanks again for doing the ground work on some revealing data Nick.


This article misses some key points points that are essential to this debate though;


Razor is under far more pressure than Rassie to win

Rassie is a bolder selector than Razor, and far more likely to embrace risk under pressure than his counterpart from New Zealand.

It doesn't realise the difficulties of a country like South Africa, with no rugby season to speak of at the moment, to get full use out of overseas internationals

Neither world player of the year Pieter-Steph du Toit nor all-world second row Eben Etzebeth were automatic selections despite the undue influence they exert on games in which they play.

The last is that one coach is 7 years into his era, where the other is in his first, and is starting with a far worse blank slate than where upon South Africa's canvas could be layered onto after 2017.

The spread at the bottom end is nothing short of spectacular. Seventeen more South Africans than New Zealanders started between one and five games in 2024.

That said, I think the balance needs to be at least somewhere in the middle. I don't know how much that is going to be down to Razor's courage, and New Zealands appetite however.


Sadly I think it is going to continue and the problem is going to be masked by much better results next year, even forgotten with an undefeated season. Because even this article appears to misconstruing the..

known quantities

as being TJP and Sam Cane. In the context of what would need to change for the numbers above to be similar, it's players like Jordie Barrett, Beauden Barrett, Rieko Ioane, Sevu Reece, Ethan Blackadder, Codie Taylor, where the reality needs to be meet face on.


On Jordie Barrett at Lienster, I really hope he can be taught how to tackle with a hard shoulder like Henshaw and Ringrose have. You can see in these highlights he doesn't have the physical presence of those two, or even the ones behind him in NZ like ALB and AJ Lam. I can't really seem him making leaps in other facets if he's already making headlines now.

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