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Losses to the Springboks will be a learning experience, not a disaster

Damian Willemse of South Africa celebrates after scoring a try during The Rugby Championship match between New Zealand All Blacks and South Africa Springboks at Sky Stadium on September 13, 2025 in Wellington, New Zealand. (Photo by Hagen Hopkins/Getty Images)
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There’s a huge amount to like about the All Blacks, so I’ll get the grizzling done quickly.

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I’d have been content to see Luke Jacobson get a red card for the dangerous clean out he unleashed at Eden Park on Saturday and I thought Quinn Tupaea was lucky to escape a yellow card.

Other than that, New Zealand’s 40-21 win over Ireland was pretty meritorious.

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I don’t think Ireland are especially good and, for all my reservations about whether the All Blacks’ unbeaten run at Eden Park is important, it clearly matters to the other team.

A bit like South Africa last year, Ireland were hopeless at times on Saturday. Rushed, inaccurate, almost overwhelmed by the whole thing.

It won’t bother me when the All Blacks finally lose at Eden Park but, in the meantime, it appears like history is in the heads of their opponents.

No, what enthuses me about the All Blacks is there’s clearly more to come.

After the match, head coach Dave Rennie talked about the level of detail that’s going into the players and how their upcoming tour to South Africa provides him a captive audience and the opportunity to delve even deeper. He’s not predicting success over there, necessarily, but he is promising the team will leave better than they arrived.

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I believe all that. I believe he and his coaching staff are only scratching the surface of what they can get out of these players. I believe they’re actually being coached right now and I believe they can become an elite team by next year’s Rugby World Cup.

What’s more, after the really strange and underwhelming Scott Robertson era, I think these players actually want to be coached and believe – as I do – that they’re becoming better for it.

Talent and physicality help, obviously. Guys we haven’t seen much of so far this test season, such as Patrick Tuipulotu and Asafo Aumua, are just a bit too powerful for most teams.

Jordie Barrett is playing the best rugby of his career, Will Jordan, Cam Roigard, Damian McKenzie and Ruben Love are as skilled as anyone who’s worn the All Black jersey and there’s a growing depth.

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Peter Lakai would be first-choice for many countries, Tupaea and Billy Proctor both do a solid job at centre – without having the tackle-busting ability of Leicester Fainga’anuku – and Caleb Clarke and Josh Moorby have both impressed on the left wing.

There’s no Fabian Holland right now and Sam Darry – who was excellent against France and Italy – didn’t play against Ireland, but Josh Lord’s going well and Tuipulotu was outstanding at Eden Park. Tupou Vaa’i is good wherever you play him.

I wish Scott Barrett every success with his return to full fitness, but he’ll be coming back a fair way down the depth chart.

I’m not sure tighthead prop is New Zealand’s greatest area of strength, but it’s not a glaring weakness either.

We’ve neither seen nor missed Beauden Barrett, and Richie Mo’unga is yet to enter the fray.

I think we’d become accustomed to players performing below themselves on the test stage. New boys came in and performed with vigour, but soon reverted to being as mediocre as the rest of their teammates.

No-one got better, no-one lived up to the picture we had of them in our mind’s eye. They were all just muddling along.

I look at Rennie’s All Blacks and I see a team where honest feedback is given and appreciated and I see a team where there’s a clear method of play and detailed plans on how to improve every individual.

Most of all, I see the rugby world quickly realising the All Blacks are a proper team again. Not a brand, not a collection of talented but disconnected individuals, not a tired outfit trading off the deeds of those who went before them.

No, these All Blacks are good, but still a long way off their best.

Win, lose or draw in South Africa, that trip will be the making of them. They haven’t really been pushed in the Nations Championship and sometimes you have to break something before you can truly fix it.

Losses to the Springboks will be a learning experience, not a disaster, because there’s a coaching staff who are in command again.

It’s been a long time since I felt as optimistic about the All Blacks.

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TokoRFC 52 mins ago

Since when did we start talking about loosing before the tour has even started?


Yes it will be a tall order but surely we’re aiming to win?

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Westy 1 hr ago

What is the likelihood of the AB’s mid week team losing against the URC teams. The games against the Stormers and the Lions could be interesting. Neither team have a high number of starting Springboks. Will Evan Roos, Mchunu, van Heerden, AH Venter, Dixon, Porthen, Sacha play for the Stormers?

Will Faf play for the Lions? The URC teams could be stacked with players from the Bok B & C teams that played in the Nation Championship.

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PB 17 mins ago

Faf is contracted to the Cheetahs

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Wayneo 49 mins ago

No word yet from SA Rugby if the Springboks & the URC players will be allowed to play int he midweek games. Looks like just the Currie Cup teams at this point.

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NucK 3 hours ago

Hey Dave. I got used to, apart from the odd blip, owning the Boks during the Richie and Co years. The last few years of being owned by them have been tough on my blood pressure. Can we get back to the former pretty please. In seriousness considering how long he's had with the team and how young a lot of the squad is, is be stoked with 2-2. We might just come out of that tour with 2 starting worthy teams depth wise.

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DAC02 5 hours ago

France pushed the ABs

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Quincy79 6 hours ago

I agree these All Blacks look far better than they have in a few years, and that's great for rugby. But I think it's a bit premature to crown them before they've faced the biggest test in world rugby.


I think South Africa isn't just another tour—it's the benchmark. The Springboks don't just test your attack; they test your character, your discipline, your set piece, your defence, and whether your game plan still works when you're under relentless pressure for 80 minutes.


If the All Blacks come through that challenge, they'll deserve every bit of the praise. But until then, potential is still just potential.


The Springboks don't care what people think you might become. They care what you can do when the pressure is real. That's where reputations are made.

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Flankly 6 hours ago

Losses to the Springboks will be a learning experience, not a disaster

Losses to NZ would also be great learning experiences. Rassie said as much.


Rassie knows that NZ is a huge threat at the RWC, and he would love to get a comprehensive look at how they are doing, what direction they are headed, and what the individual players are about.


He also knows that there is no team on the planet that will stretch the Boks, over four games, as much as NZ will. If you are looking for an opponent that will find your weaknesses, look no further than NZ. These are games that will test the SA team in new and interesting ways, and Rassie explicitly wants that, because runaway victories by very rotated Bok teams in the Nations Championship do not deliver the pressure that you want.


Honestly, I would say both sides would be OK with a 2-2 split in the tour, and a 3-1 either way would be disappointing without being the end of the world. If either team were to come away with a 4-0 then that’s a different story.

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Ap444 7 hours ago

Lol… they haven’t landed yet and the … “if we lose it’s ok because” excuses are already ringing… this is funny.

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GM 7 hours ago

I do wonder whether the Boks are regretting agreeing to this upcoming tour - not because they will lose, but because win, lose or draw, the ABs have a lot more to gain in terms of next year’s RWC than the Boks do.

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Wayneo 48 mins ago

😂

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Bazzallina 58 mins ago

Nope and it’s good cash money I expect makes the world go tound

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DP 1 hr ago

I wondered the same thing, however Hammer Heads assessment of the situation below makes more sense to me now. Plus the Boks need to start evening up the one sided head to head win/loss ratio between the two…!

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Quincy79 3 hours ago

Maybe the All Blacks have more to gain. But that's exactly why the pressure is on them, not the Boks.

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HS 4 hours ago

I think both countries have roughly equal amount to gain: you learn where you stand compared to one of your main competitors, being among the top 3 in the world, and you only learn that by playing each other a couple of times. In a one off, like a WC QF, it could still go either way for the top 3 countries, I'd say.


Boks will test their depth, especially if they get off to a winning start; All Blacks are likely still trying to establish the first 15 and 23 and their strength.


If the Springboks lose they will learn a lot before the WC starts. If the ABs lose, they will too, but will have to find potential alternative players that have not played over the last weeks.

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PB 6 hours ago

How do you figure that? At the moment only Scotland, France and NZ can really stretch the Boks.


We already passed the Scotland test with a much changed side.


Rassie hasn't rolled out the entirety of his artillery once this test season.


So what will NZ gain more? If the Boks dominate them and they lose 3 of the 4 it will be leaving more scars and yes more opportunities to find answers.


If Boks lose 3 it will be a nice measure of where to fix, with enough time to do so.

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Hammer Head 7 hours ago

If the World Cup were tomorrow, it would be between SA, France and New Zealand.


SA and New Zealand meet in the quarter finals. So that becomes either sides final and having had 4 shots in a row at each other benefits both teams preparation.


New Zealand are coming off a lower base under Rennie. So realistically they do have more to gain each week until they catch-up.


But both teams will be better for the opportunity of playing this series.

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